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What Shinbang is, how to fix it, prevent it, and understand it.

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ReignMan
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We all know the feeling you get on your shins after a long couple days of skiing. It can be painful and effect your skiing. Most people; judging from previous comments on threads, show that a majority of NS will comment like they know things that they truly don't, and that they don't really know what shinbang is.

Firstly, Shinbang is what skiers get, but shinsplints is what runners and walkers get. They are the same thing. This means that shin bang is because of impact as well as afterbanging or sitting back in your ski stance to much.

Shin splints are injuries to the front of the outer leg. While the exact injury is not known, shin splints seem to result from inflammation due to injury of the tendon (posterior peroneal tendon) and adjacent tissues in the front of the outer leg.(MedicineNet.com)

Shin splints are a member of a group of injuries called "overuse injuries." Shin splints occur most commonly in runners or aggressive walkers.(MedicineNet.com)

Often times if your ski boot is to big, canted funny, or in walk mode shinbang will occur. IF THE BOOT FITS.

How to heal it:
Just like when you work out shin splints/bang creates micro tears in your muscle. It is also caused by inflammation. This causes what is shown in the image below.Click for larger image

This means that protein, icing (for the inflammation), and stress-less periods of time will eventually heal your pain.

Here is a video on how to tape it. It is possible to tape your foot and put it in your ski boot.

Also these videos have different techniques.
*Please if you try these leave input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J2CmTmGqv8&feature=related



If you have anything to add or disagree with something I said please let me know by comment or PM.

Spark Notes:
-Shin splints=shinbang.
-caused by stress and overworking.
-To fix
-eat protein
-Ice
-wrap it up.

No hate I'm trying to help.
Yes, if full tilts fit your foot they will also make shin bang less prominent.
Jan 5 2011 11:55PM
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ReignMan
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Wow i completely regret waisting my time making this.
Jan 6 2011 1:01AM
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P_Steezy
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you did a good job defining shin splints, but I don't think shin splints and shinbang are one and the same. I would definitely recommend checking out this thread, it has definitely been the most helpful thread I've read about shinbang:


[URL]https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/523829/[/URL]

Jan 6 2011 1:01AM
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ReignMan
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I'm pretty sure it is. I talked to my doctor and he said that it was shinsplints. I'm 100 percent sure that the soreness is from the bone pulling away from your bone not it bending.
Jan 6 2011 1:16AM
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ChadThundercock
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good job man, and yeah i would actually say shinbang and shin splints are relatively the same thing.
Jan 6 2011 1:21AM
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STN
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k+
Jan 6 2011 1:22AM
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alex.bgk.
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kind of interesting how in the second video, at about 2:30, he describes how to not "land back seat" while running
Jan 6 2011 1:26AM
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ReignMan
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ya i thought that was interesting. Abang runing. just hella big steps.
Jan 6 2011 1:29AM
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I.B
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STICKY THIS
Jan 6 2011 1:33AM
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Pool.
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Jan 6 2011 1:47AM
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ReignMan
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would be very cool.
Jan 6 2011 1:52AM
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Troy.
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As both a runner and a skiier, they are the exact same. In skiing and running they are caused by different things (sitting backseat vs impact overtime), they feel exactly the same.
Jan 6 2011 1:58AM
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doyle.
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good info, I would give you karma but I'm on NS mobile
Jan 6 2011 2:04AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Does this mean I cant afterbang?
Jan 6 2011 2:21AM
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ReignMan
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haha noooooooo. Just be sure to keep it down to a minimum.
Jan 6 2011 8:53AM
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alexg1687
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sticky
Jan 6 2011 8:57AM
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theWIZARD
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Qualtiy job sir
Jan 6 2011 9:06AM
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bob_ham
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threads for after school. thank you so much
Jan 6 2011 9:09AM
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jkauffman22
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well done making a helpful thread
Jan 6 2011 9:38AM
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Newschool_Pope
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the shinbang i get seems very different.
its not bending backwards, but its resulting from forward push. when i lean forward alot, like standing only on my toes (in ski boots) for a longer time i feel the pain exactly in the middle of my shin increasing. at first its just pressure but ive stood like that in the lift line for a while, just gently leaning on my toes and as i took my ski boots of i had blue spots there. i never really feel pain when i land backseat except for toe bang, but if i ski leaning forward alot my shins get alot of pressure. especially if i hit a bump leaning forward it immediatly hurts alot. i use the ace of spades boot. its really killing me. also when i hike alot my shins hurt very much. anybody know a cure? im very sure in my case the pain is not from landing backseat i might think this could also be something else than shinbang. i usually have my boots very firmly buckled.
Jan 6 2011 9:55AM
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P_Steezy
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Not really a valid point, first of all. Being both a runner and a skier does not mean you automatically know everything about both sports. I have suffered from shin splints before and currently suffer from chronic shin bang and can tell you these two things are not the same.

Shin bang is a product of landing back seat, like in the thread I mentioned above. Shin splints, on the other hand, are typically a product of overuse of the anterior or posterior tibialis (as the KT Tape spokesman mentions in his video), with various, less frequent causes. If shin splints and shin bang feel the same to you, then what you are feeling while skiing is not "shin bang."
Jan 6 2011 10:23AM
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cct_222
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same, ive had pretty bad shin splints in the past and the shinbang i got from my skiing is much different
Jan 6 2011 10:30AM
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Sallabillz
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Click for larger imagehttp://www.backcountry.com/images/items/medium/FLT/FLT0012/ONECOL.jpg





FULL TILTS FOR THE WIN
i never get shinsplints unless i case a jump 20 times or sum shieeet
Jan 6 2011 11:21AM
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-AWC-
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I'm glad I haven't come across someone like this in the street...
Jan 6 2011 1:26PM
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mseward
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I got shinspilnts from running, the pain from shinsplints and shinbang are pretty much the same. Good thread!
Jan 6 2011 1:32PM
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ReignMan
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this is because you are leaning forward and not ringing your ski. Also be sure to have a super tight upper buckle and strap as this will less'n the impact of your shin. I suggest that you ice the spots. also if you are riding a stiff boot i imagine this could happen.
Jan 6 2011 7:53PM
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ReignMan
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ok it is the muscle pulling away from the bone. I assure you. Try taping it as if it were shin splints and let me know what happens.
Jan 6 2011 7:56PM
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sagesnow
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I was in a shop and aparently theres these things called Shin bang eliminators that make it literally impossible to get shin bang. they are inserts you put behind you tongue i believe. I've never seen them but thats what i heard from someone at a ski shop. sounds sick though.
Jan 6 2011 7:58PM
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ReignMan
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ya but i have heard those put yo in the back seat hella. I just looked on a bunch of websites and they are all saying different shit.
Jan 6 2011 8:01PM
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alvy.
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what does taping help with exactly?
Jan 6 2011 8:16PM
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ReignMan
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if it works. shinbang=shinsplints. if not, i have been mis informed.
Jan 6 2011 8:16PM
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P_Steezy
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I guess it can't hurt to try. I'll let you know how it turns out
Jan 7 2011 2:36AM
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Blake.P
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I can say from experience that taping your ankle can help a lot too. By keeping the ankle bent foreword and having limited movement, it eliminates the muscles that are affected by shin bang
Jan 7 2011 3:14AM
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Bonzalo
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Haha, I wouldn´t recommend taping, is painful as shit unless you are a woman or you are shaved. I just taped my ankle and when I took the tape out I wanted to kill my self. But it maight work, im not saying it doesn´t im saying it is painful.
Thanks for this thread, REALLY helpful.You will find 10 dollars in return of your help haha.
Jan 7 2011 10:22PM
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rankstank
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heel lifts can work wonders too. I got some at my shop and my shin bang has decreased 10 fold
Jan 7 2011 10:40PM
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TWoods
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Shinbang and shinsplints are different. I've successfully attained both.
Jan 7 2011 10:52PM
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TWoods
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I should be more specific. Since you've described shin splints so well, I'm not going to get into that.

Shin bang is from the upper part of your boots not fitting right, or from putting too much force on your shins (eating shit or skiing poorly) if your boots are too stiff. It's not soreness caused from stretching and shit, having poorly fitted boots or skiing backseat, it's more impact/pressure. Sometimes it bruises.

I ran cross country and struggles with shin splints, patellar tendonitis and intersection tendonitis because of shitty genes. I've also had big bruises on my shins from shin bang when my boots didn't fit right and I didn't know it when I started getting into jumping off stuff on skis. It's very different.

I should also add that most of the time when kids on NS complain about "Shin Bang" they are actually complaining about shin splints, and don't know it.
Jan 7 2011 10:57PM
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gombo8
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exactly sorry josh but i was about to medically beat your ass. only cause i took 2 years or pyhscial therapy for my knees and ankles. but people think shinsplints is shin bang becasue thats what everyone thinks and says when you case a jump or  afterbang so hard your hurt yourself. they just dont know the correct differnce. but good stuff on shin splints. shin splints are micro tears in the muscle. shinbang is just a bruised everything from impact or stiff boots...
Jan 7 2011 11:06PM
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ReignMan
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learned that lesson. o well. just do it like a bandaid. no biggie. man up.
Jan 8 2011 2:59AM
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ReignMan
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haha mk. I guess there wa not concrete medical defination of shin bang. Thanks yall for input. feel free to keep it coming.
Jan 8 2011 3:02AM
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Just_Send_It
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thank you sir
Jan 8 2011 3:05AM
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icon1234
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Okay what is calf bang then? I had this shit so bad with my older pair.
Jan 8 2011 3:10AM
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rankstank
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also
Jan 8 2011 10:11AM
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ReignMan
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im on it cause i got it to. i think mine just be just a stage 1 pulled calf though. (microtears with no interior bleeding)
Jan 8 2011 5:20PM
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jeR.
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wear full tilts?
Jan 8 2011 8:24PM
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TheUngroomed
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soooomeone doesnt have a life......
Jan 8 2011 9:26PM
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ReignMan
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that person ain't me. Why would you hate on someone trying to help you. that just makes you look like a tool. FYI people probably don't like you mainly judgingby the fact ive never seen any of your comments (either because you don't post often or anything you have posted and still are posting has no any effect on anyones life)
Jan 8 2011 9:31PM
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ReignMan
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sorry computor freaked... anyway and the only comment i have seen the one ^ is toolish.
Jan 8 2011 9:32PM
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Dr.D-Sag
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hahaha
Jan 9 2011 8:24PM
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P_Steezy
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Only what I've been trying to say the entire time. At least someone else gets it
Jan 12 2011 12:10AM
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gombo8
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having a unsolvled injury and going to physical therapy played off for me. but now i sprained my LCL. awesome
Jan 12 2011 1:17AM
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