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Tha_Wizard
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http://cargocollective.com/4thamendment
Dec 13 2010 12:17AM
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HowNeatIsThat
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That is surprisingly genius.
Dec 13 2010 12:20AM
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saucybiscuits
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that.is.amazing.
Dec 13 2010 12:22AM
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Ducky.
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That
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Dec 13 2010 12:24AM
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Dhane
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do they make one with a giant trouser snake?
Dec 13 2010 12:25AM
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Mr.Feeny
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so sick
Dec 13 2010 12:32AM
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Tha_Wizard
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pretty epic idea i thought
Dec 13 2010 12:36AM
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.jersey
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i want
Dec 13 2010 12:40AM
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LIL_WAT
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so much win.
Dec 13 2010 12:41AM
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babujib
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You do realize that you can just not fly if you don't like the scanners...The 4th amendment protects you against unreasonable searches, but not against probable cause. In this case, probable cause would be that you are about to get locked into a packed plane that even the slightest tampering of cabin pressure can send the whole thing down with hundreds of people.
Dec 13 2010 12:47AM
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Tha_Wizard
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Well most people are obligated to fly for things such as business and family or school. And there is no "probable cause" to body scan people. And probable cause is not an outcome of somethings, it a reactionary consequence.
Dec 13 2010 12:53AM
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cooper.fry
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Now, buy these in bulk, and put up a tiki hut selling for a little more than what you bought them for.
Profit?
Dec 13 2010 12:55AM
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Davy.Crockett
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don't really want one with the forth amendment written on it but the idea itself is $$$
Dec 13 2010 12:57AM
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PeterWojnar
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Awesome.
Dec 13 2010 1:13AM
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babujib
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It's a reaction to the hijacking of planes...
Dec 13 2010 1:20AM
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Tha_Wizard
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no terrorists had bombs hidden in there asshole.
Dec 13 2010 1:26AM
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tayhawx
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A completely unreasonable reaction. People shouldn't be suspected criminals just because they want to fly on an airplane.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

Sick shirt by the way
Dec 13 2010 1:55AM
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theabortionator
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You can just not fly. YYou can avoid doing this, you can avoid doing that. The idea of trying to justify this shit is ridiculous. Arguments like that are what keep our country going down the tubes. Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.








I think the link in the op is fucking awesome.
Dec 13 2010 1:58AM
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XtRemE11
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its not probably cause because someone else not related to you in any fucking way hijacked an airplane 9 years ago. thats like a cop being able to pick random people off the street and search them because they could walk into a crowded area and blow themselves up. or search anyone driving a car, or riding a bus.
its in complete violation of the 4th amendment, and they get away with it because its a little added safety, so all the sheep go along with it cause nobody has any fucking balls anymore.

Dec 13 2010 2:17AM
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theabortionator
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People have no fucking balls. They step it up incrementally. People piss and moan at first, then they get used to it. Then they step it up a little more, repeat. And all the way asshats are talking about how necessary it is for safety or how dumb people are to not be cool with it. Sheeple in the herd.
Dec 13 2010 2:41AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Dec 13 2010 2:53AM
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the_moderaper
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So basically, in theory, great idea. Very origonal.

The scanners that they are fighting to stop, just give up. You're just trying to start controversey. These are the types of people who watch Jersey Shore for the drama, not the luls.

Dec 13 2010 7:56AM
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fujarome
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not obligated to fly for anything. People did manage to get around before commercial flight became available.

However, without it, everything takes longer and is more difficult. But you are by absolutely no means obligated to fly anywhere.
Dec 13 2010 8:02AM
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Static
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what if that dude sees your little daughters? What if that dude wants to see up your ass with a flash light? We all have personal lines to draw, almost nothing could ever be as bad or intrusive as another 9/11 right? You'd let them go all the way wouldn't you?

Than again, if you don't want some towel head with a bomb sitting next to you there is always the option of not flying. No one is forcing you to travel by such dangerous means.
Dec 13 2010 8:05AM
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fillup
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Im down with the scanners, but when the dude feels me up because i had chapstick in my pocket i feel a tad uncomfortable.
Dec 13 2010 8:12AM
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F-Beezy
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when i first saw this i thought it was clothes or something to wear under your colthes so that u can hide things during a pat down or search.
Dec 13 2010 10:42AM
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KravtZ
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i fucking hate hte people complaining about this shit...so who gives a fuck if they see your tits or dick or watever i would rather be safe. People should seriously stop bitching because personally i like to be safe and dont want to get taken down in a plane by someone or a terrorist. It is completely reasonable to search someone to this degree considering 9/11 and other events. People need to get off there high horses and fucken deal with the fact someone is looking at them through an x ray for like 10 seconds.
Dec 13 2010 10:48AM
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BMB
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yes!
Dec 13 2010 10:57AM
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EvanA02
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In the US 11 aircrafts have been hijacked, 4 of which were downed in the last 20 years

out of... 1,204,006,309 flights in the last 20 years. I say you have some damn good odds of not having to worry about this.

honestly we just need to start profiling. much better solution in my opinion.
Dec 13 2010 11:10AM
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freestyler540
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love it
Dec 13 2010 11:26AM
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XtRemE11
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do you realize how stupid it is to think that this actually makes us any safer? you would have to be an idiot to wear any weapon on you if you were planning on hijacking or taking down a plane. anyone planning on taking down a plain is going to put a shit ton of time into it, think about how much you could hide in the lining of your carry on, inside your computer, what your computer could be made into. inside a pen etc... if someone wants to bring something onto a plane, they are going to do it, and the last think that would stop them is some perverted dude jackin it to your nude pictures and feeling your junk.

if you dont like the extremely small risk of flying, dont fly, go do something 100x more dangerous by driving home.

i hate to use the slippery slope argument, but i could really see searches becoming acceptable on the street or in peoples cars. we just need one guy to blow himself up on a subway and all the sheep will gladly give up their rights for a tiny bit of "added safety" which is bullshit anyway. your not gaining any fucking safety.
Dec 13 2010 11:54AM
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babujib
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All of you do realize you can easily refuse the scanner. I did so when I was flying from Denver to Boston a couple of weeks ago. It really is a non-issue that people are blowing up. Same goes for the Arizona "illegal immigrant" law or whatever (which actually just says that cops are allowed to ask for a proof of residency when they pull you over), people just like to stir up controversy for the mere reason of stirring up controversy, stop complaining. The U.S. government is not trying to actively look at the peens of every American, stop being liberal conspiracy theorists talking about losing so many human rights and shit.
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Does that really look that intrusive? Yes, these scanners can be manipulated to show a naked body, but there are strict regulations in place to prevent that.
Dec 13 2010 4:24PM
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stunt_ditch
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I've been trying to stay out of this thread all day, but I can't help myself.

Listen. It would be considered CONSERVATIVE to be against these scanners and for the Fourth Amendment. These machines signify an expansion of government power, which is a Liberal concept. The reason you're calling us Liberals is because Fox News has decided to be for the scanners.

Oh, and for the record, I am neither Liberal nor Conservative, and I bought the undies.
Dec 13 2010 4:37PM
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AHSkier
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thats a bitch slap to the face, very clever
Dec 13 2010 4:41PM
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theabortionator
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Ignorant america. "People need to get off there high horses and fucken deal with the fact someone is looking at them through an x ray for like 10 seconds."



Ignorant people like you are the reason our country has been able to slide so far into the shitter.
Dec 13 2010 4:46PM
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RubberSoul
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what? it's all repubs and libertarians that have a problem with this..
Dec 13 2010 4:48PM
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stunt_ditch
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No, unfortunately it's mostly paranoid neocons that think the muslims are trying to blow up their Walmart.
Dec 13 2010 4:50PM
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stunt_ditch
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Oops. Those are the people who don't mind the scanners, in my opinion. Apologies for the confusion.
Dec 13 2010 4:52PM
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RubberSoul
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yeah well that's the weird part about this issue, you'd think the righties would be all over this shit ("giving up privacy for security") but instead in my experience it's been all libertarians/people who claim to be libertarians complaining about this and claiming anyone who's okay with it is "what's wrong with this country"
Dec 13 2010 5:05PM
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Gnams
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If you don't like getting scanned... you know what????



DONT FLY!!!

Its as simple as that
Dec 13 2010 5:07PM
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XtRemE11
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its the other way around, if you dont like the very very small risk of someone blowing up a plane, dont fly.
Dec 13 2010 5:12PM
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Mr.Turtle
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both points are valid. im just waiting for my jetpack
Dec 13 2010 5:13PM
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theabortionator
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Neither the mainstream dems or reps have given a shit about the constitution for a long time.
Dec 13 2010 5:16PM
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RubberSoul
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who said they have? all i said (obviously in very general terms) is what side of this issue people have been tending to fall on..?
Dec 13 2010 5:29PM
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