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Help me prove my Dad wrong.

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ReignMan
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I am convinced that you get hurt worse skiing "steep n deeps" compared to the park. My Dad says that the park is where you get hurt more. I think when you fall on steep and deeps your looking like you are in worse shape than a occasional broken extremidy. Please help my debate.
Dec 7 2010 1:12AM
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owned
Posts: 345 - Karma: 10
some celebrity died on the bunny hill last season. forget her name.
Dec 7 2010 7:07PM
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Sallabillz
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LOLOLOL



WIN
Dec 7 2010 7:15PM
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Cincher
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George of the Jungle? I believe he didn't watch out for that tree...
Dec 7 2010 7:17PM
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GayWolf420
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Because she wasn't wearing a helmet or any kind of head proctection. And she slammed her head quiet hard, went back to her private suite instead of seeking medical attention even though her instructor told her to do so, and died in her sleep from internal brain bleeding.
Dec 7 2010 7:18PM
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triebby
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Well said. This is one of the few intelligent posts in this thread.
Dec 7 2010 7:28PM
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EmperorKuzco
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i think you have more potential for death on steeps and cliffs in the backcountry, but the park has more injuries just because there are more people doing park
Dec 7 2010 7:30PM
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Cincher
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almost sounds like that hit to the head affected her sense of...common sense.
Dec 7 2010 7:30PM
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DaysToCome
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Depends what you are getting yourself into. id say you can get yourself into some pretty sketchy situations in the steeps where serious injury is a very real possibility. But I'd say you risk injury more often in park.
Dec 7 2010 8:02PM
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k-rob
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i'd say your dad probably hates you and arguing isn't helping.
Dec 7 2010 8:11PM
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ChadThundercock
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well, when you fuck up in park you will usually sustain minor injuries now and again - an occasional season ender. but it is probably a little harder to kill yourself as long as you know what your doing. powder is a different story, if you take a fall - you have a few feet powder to cushion you to an extent. but you dont know whats under that snow. so if your about to drop a huge cliff and you catch on something, your chances of dying are far more likely than catching on a park jump. but i would still say park is slightly more dangerous.
Dec 7 2010 8:17PM
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Daydreaming
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Park definitely hurts more people per season but BC does have higher risks involved.

I feel much safer skiing "steeps and deeps" than park. Slamming on a rail or park jump scares me a lot more than tomahawking the landing of a cliff.
Dec 7 2010 8:30PM
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Literature
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You're taking the wrong track here.

Instead, remind your dad that he did stupid stuff when he was young, and that everyone deserves the right to figure it out the hard way for the sake of their passions.
Dec 7 2010 9:19PM
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Chompo.
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steeps=Less falls but worse falls
park=Lots of not so bad falls with a couple bad ones mixed in.
Dec 7 2010 9:22PM
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gombo8
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first thing dont be a little fuck up and say "pwease" its please

second think about it. what in skiing is steep? a big mountain so steeps would be steep shit and what in skiing is normally deep? (no not the cock in your throat) but powder. so if you combine steep mountains and deep powder you get steep and deep

Dec 7 2010 9:37PM
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p-fo
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it allll depends on the burliness of the lines youre skiing and the size of the jumps and rails youre hitting
Dec 7 2010 9:39PM
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GILLSKI
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hey big mt gapers r ppl too
Dec 7 2010 9:46PM
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k-rob
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no, not the cock in YOUR throat.
Dec 7 2010 10:05PM
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marteeno
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this is exactly why i don't invest a lot of time on this childish website.

anyhow, it depends on what you are doing in both situations. with that said.. if you needs dads permission for these sort of things, then i would say listen to him.
Dec 7 2010 10:11PM
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marteeno
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you don't see me disrespecting my peers
Dec 7 2010 10:20PM
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alvy.
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oh no not the steeps and deeps!
Dec 7 2010 10:29PM
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Thatdp
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i broke my femur in the park
Dec 7 2010 10:36PM
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introvert
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So you felt the need to go to my profile and look at where I live?
Dec 7 2010 11:07PM
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Njwa
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Wowww asshole man hating is over dude.
Dec 7 2010 11:13PM
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Thenowhereman42
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I certainly get hurt a lot more doing park but I'm a lot better at chutes and drops and the like. I think the opportunity to really fuck yourself up is bigger in the backcountry but I personally take at least 10x if not 20x more bails in the park than anywhere else on a mountain.
Dec 7 2010 11:15PM
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snowbombz
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BAM!
Dec 8 2010 2:12AM
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steezebomb
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No one is interested.
Dec 8 2010 7:12AM
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Cincher
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I don't get it.
Dec 8 2010 10:40AM
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sagesnow
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I could be wrong but i can only think of like 5 people ever off the top of my head that have died in park. and something like 14 people in a year die skiing blackcomb whistler alone. (not in the park)
Dec 8 2010 10:52AM
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Mr_Orange
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you should be a lawyer
Dec 8 2010 10:29PM
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Barmski
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No one dies in the park, its all BC shit where people die:

Doug Combs, Arne Backstrom, Shane, CR, Billy Poole, Fredrik Ericsson, Crazy French Guy who dropped the 350ft cliff (should have died but didnt) are the most recent. As well as an average of one to two people die a year on Loveland Pass, Colorado alone in Avi Slides and thats just one location. East Vail in Vail, Colorado gets at least one person a year. Not to mention according to recent stats more and more people die in Avalanches per year because more and more are going to the backcountry.

Counter argument would be Notable Big Crashes in the Park: Simon D (cracked Pelvis, spleen), Mike Wilson (acl, collapsed lung, heels fucked), D Spong (three out of four aorta walls, concussion), T Hall (ankles), Candide (back), Lars Veen (paralyzed still ) however none these have resulted in Death and all execept Lars  are now back skiing.

Park gives us bruises, Big Mtn sends us to the grave. Look at the ones pushing it the most. This weak and ignorant 14 year old kid aint so ignorant guys so shut it. Hes right. So thread creator I salute you to stand up to you Dad cause you got yourself a solid argument.
Dec 9 2010 2:08AM
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Daydreaming
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You are right, more people die in the backcountry. But more people get non fatal injuries in park than in backcountry. The difference is that you are less likely to have an accident in the backcountry but if you do you are pretty fucked. In the park you take a lot more spills but you are less likely to get severe injuries.
Dec 9 2010 2:51AM
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deleted5
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you would try to defend powder
Dec 9 2010 2:57AM
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bananas
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not comparable, you can die walking off a side walk
Dec 9 2010 8:14AM
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Mr.Huck
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Yeah, and I pretty much always do.  NS is an international community and I like to see where people are posting from.   Again, no hate towards you.  The first time I ever skied was at Sugar. 
Dec 9 2010 10:36AM
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onenerdykid
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it was Natasha Richardson, wife of the actor Liam Neeson
Dec 9 2010 11:37AM
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Z-Juice
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Dec 9 2010 2:24PM
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tall_t
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pretend you have full pads in park and steeps. iin the steeps youll  keep falling. but in park, your cup will save you.

Dec 11 2010 11:18AM
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ParkAndPowFun
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park is way more dangerous, sorry
Dec 11 2010 2:42PM
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Zimmerman
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Usually there are much more frequent injuries in the park, but in the steeps there will be much more serious injuries. but your steeps are probly in bounds 50% pitch with 2 feet of pow...
Dec 11 2010 4:05PM
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joshua
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Park you get a lot more "smaller" injuries, but hardly ever do you hear about someone dyng in the park. People get hurt less in the BC but when they do its usually bad like an avy or somthing. Also kinda depends what you mean by BC. Bottomless pow or like AK type lines? You will get hurt more from the latter obviously.
Dec 11 2010 4:45PM
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corona
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last night I saw a snowboarder land a 3 off a roller right before this kid who was sitting down in the trail and he plain out ollied over him. nearly took his head off doing it but it was sick
Dec 11 2010 4:48PM
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