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What's easier to learn? Frontflips or Backflips?

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STLskier
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Can anyone tell me which? I know this has probably been asked before.
Nov 18 2010 11:04PM
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Mr.Huck
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Used to be that Fronts were easier to attempt, but backs were easier to land.  Now I'm not so sure, but fronts are definitely blind and you rely completely on feel.  Backs let you see the landing.  Problem with backs is that many try them without looking back for the ground.  My pearl of wisdom is:  "Look for the ground; you'll get around. Look at the sky; you're going to die."
Nov 19 2010 3:50PM
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JakobS
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Well, I have a small question.
I can stomp a backflip on a tramoline anytime, never fails.
I can even do it while I am really drunk, and there are lot's of other dude's on the trampoline at the same time.

Will it be hard for me to do it on skis?
Nov 19 2010 4:16PM
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TPalms
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Man... that front flip looked fun (sarcasm) haha. On top of your jump being way too small, you didn't pop off of your tips. One thing you can do to practice (and I know this sounds lame) is to pretend to do a front flip on the ground, ya' know, the kind of front roll that people who do parkour do after they just jumped from one rooftop to the next. What this does is gets you to understand the feeling of going forwards, and the tuck that's required. When you take it to snow, you want to stagger your feet on the in run and pop off of your toes, paying specific attention to your leading foot, almost as if you were doing the same rolling motion. Then you throw your arms down and rotate your body into a tuck. It's not too hard once you go out and try it on a real jump.

As far as which was easier for me.... I'd have to say front flips were, but that was only because I understood the concept from already knowing how to do a back flip. Backs are really easy once you get over the fear and just go for it though. I'd suggest doing a back flip first though... if you think about it, the jump sets you for your rotation perfectly. You don't even complete a full flip since you start at an angle, and end on an angle.

Either way, go for it!
Nov 19 2010 4:51PM
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Mr.Huck
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Consistency is key; making setting as close as possible to how you practiced it.  In your case, you will need to down a bottle of Jack and have a bunch of drunk dudes standing on the jump. 
Nov 19 2010 5:39PM
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soulskier
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backflips are easier to learn, NUT harder to commit to while learning
Nov 19 2010 5:48PM
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gabe_cohen
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backflips are easier but kinda scary at first.  frontflips aren't scary at all but are harder to master than a frontflip
Nov 19 2010 6:30PM
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JakobS
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You sure about that?
Nov 19 2010 6:34PM
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derpina
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It's a lot easier off a jump than on a trampoline. I work for Woodward and know this from experience. The lip of the jump helps you move your body in that direction, while on a tramp you have to do all the work yourself.
Nov 19 2010 6:35PM
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madsskaar
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backies are a hundred time easier
Nov 19 2010 8:28PM
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Gharf
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so much crappy advice in this thread.

if you want to learn backflip it s not just huck and tuck. exept if it s on a really really small jump.
if it s on a medium size jump, which i recommend  it s pop really hard,  and then  lift your knees above your head.

that s why some people find frontflips easier than backflip, it s because it s natural to pop on a front flip, but on a back flip most people will slang it and throw it way too early, maybe landing on their feet but having absolutely no control.

if you want to control a backflip, look at the vid on the first page on the 65 ft jump, that s a solid backflip.
pop, spin, spot your landing, stomp.

but dont forget the pop part.
front flip is the same exept you dont get to spot your landing. :)
Nov 20 2010 12:29AM
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thisguywhoiscool
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SHUT UP
OR
NUT UP!!
Nov 20 2010 1:33AM
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scratchproteen
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Backflips are in my opinion one of the easiest tricks to do on skis.

Why? Well the lip of the jump naturally wants to kick you back, so basically all you got to do is lean back and commit to it.

For your first time just get the rotation around, you don't want to under rotate and catch the tips and slam your face into the ground.
Nov 20 2010 2:48AM
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snowbombz
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last season i learned both, i learned front flips first because i became super good at being able to spontaneously do somersaults. Fronts are much less scary and you can learn them on smaller jumps, After learning back flips though i can now say that i think front flips are sketchy unless you are on a small jump because its difficult to spot your landing.

Backflips are scarrier to learn, but easier
Frontflips are easier to learn but less fun.
Nov 20 2010 3:21AM
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TPalms
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WHAT?? Frontflips are so so much fun! I love that feeling of popping off of my tip (when having my feet staggered) and feeling my body rotate around--on a small jump it happens pretty fast and is a big rush. And on a larger jump (better) you can stretch the fuck out of them and then tuck at the last second to bring them around. How dare you say that they're less fun.

Side-note: I agree with everything else that you said.
Nov 20 2010 4:11AM
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TPalms
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WHAT?? Frontflips are so so much fun! I love that feeling of popping off of my tip (when having my feet staggered) and feeling my body rotate around--on a small jump it happens pretty fast and is a big rush. And on a larger jump (better) you can stretch the fuck out of them and then tuck at the last second to bring them around. How dare you say that they're less fun.

Nov 20 2010 4:14AM
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snowbombz
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hahahahahaha i never said they were not fun, just less fun!
Nov 20 2010 4:35AM
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..jack
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I'd Say frontflips are easier on a trampoline and backflips on skis.

If you can at least get over the fear of throwing a backflip on a trampoline it should come really easily on skis.

I Prefer doing those punch fronts rather than frontflips off kickers...It might be better to start doing them.
Nov 20 2010 6:14AM
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STLskier
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I think I'm going to learn punch fronts and then try full on fronts and then tackle the backies later.
Nov 20 2010 12:34PM
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emryium
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Practice both on a trampoline. If you can do on a trampoline then its easier to do on skis. In my opinion front flips are easier cause it takes less balls so your calmer when pulling it which is always nice.
Nov 20 2010 12:39PM
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trashmasterT
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I'm pretty sure its backs cuz you can spot your landing on backflips
Nov 20 2010 4:40PM
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Talacious[Tally]
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Backflips, you can see your landing. Sometimes scary tho because if you don't see the ground before you land your fucked.
Nov 20 2010 6:20PM
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Barmski
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I only do fronts to work on feel in air awareness. If you can master Fronts off anything, you can master a lot of other tricks since you cannot see shit in a front or double front.

Backs are spottable and a lot easier obviously because you can see them. Just dont get carried away with them....
Nov 21 2010 12:50AM
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Gknow
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Supermans.
Nov 21 2010 7:02PM
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Ninja_on_Skis
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Well when it comes down to your momentum backflips. But I see a lot of people go with the frontflip first because they can't commit to the backflip fully. A lot comes down to if your fully commited or not. if your not fully I or at least close I personally wouldn't try because you'll just end up hurting yourself. (found this out because I didn't commit and landed on my head)
Nov 21 2010 7:14PM
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i.ski.NC
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Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. Literally yesterday I got to the point where I can almost consistently land fronts on a trampoline. I still haven't even tried a back on a tramp because I'm waaayyy too scared of landing on my head.

I'm just wondering, because I think I have the balls to try a front, but not a back, and if I can do one really well on a tramp, how big are the chances that I'll seriously hurt myself if I try a front off around a 20 - 30 footer?
Nov 21 2010 7:54PM
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SickNameHere
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nah, backflips on a trampoline are easier, not really sure about skis...

But when you backflip on a trampoline and don't rotate quite enough, so you're leaning slighty forward, you can usually just take another jump and balance yourself out. You can lean further forwards than you can backwards. But then, that's just how I see it.

Nov 21 2010 8:25PM
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