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RIP. More teen suicides.

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ORDEAL
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This kids both went to my school. A shit ton of weird district people standing aroundlooking for people crying. Several cops too


- LAKELAND, Minn. - Police are investigating the deaths of two teens in the east metro suburb of Lakeland. The bodies were found in Humphreys Park around 7:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Wednesday afternoon, the Washington County sheriff's office identified the teens as 15-year-old Lisa Marie Grijalva of Oak Park Heights and 14-year-old Jacob Zachary Campbell.

Neighbors say they heard gunshots in the area, but authorities aren't saying how the teens died. They are not looking for any suspects. One woman in the neighborhood says her son and several of his friends received text messages Tuesday alluding to a possible suicide.

Lisa Grijalva and Jacob Campbell attended Oak-Land Junior High School in Lake Elmo. The sheriff’s office is helping the school deal with the tragic situation

The Washington County sheriff's office and Minnesota BCA are investigating and the Ramsey County medical examiner is working to determine manner and cause of the deaths.

RIP
Pretty sad. They were dating too
Oct 13 2010 5:39PM
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neutralzombie
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you're all pissing me right off, and you have no god damn respect.
Oct 14 2010 1:30AM
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Mr.Panda
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Humans are inherently evil.

Watch babies (like pre 3 years old) in a playpen together. If one baby has a toy the other one wants they don't "share".. they bitch slap the kid with it and take it for themselves.


Also, think in the workplace... what's right for me is a raise so I can have some more money for my life... but that isn't what is right for you. Cause, if I get the raise, then YOU don't get the raise and your family might go hungry. So, what do you do.... you do whatever you can to make me look bad. Adults bully each other but the difference is the pay off isn't trying to look like the badass to your friends with the victim running off crying. The payoff is extra money/perks to you that you get to rub in my face while you see me fuming over on the side.

Even fucking bums bully each other. It doesn't look like the bullying you see in high school or middle school but it is still bullying.
Oct 14 2010 1:35AM
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Mr.Panda
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What the fuck can I, as the victim of bullying do? The Administration is never gonna listen to the fat Asian kid in two AP classes and in band when they say that the QB and Wrestling and star running back keep picking on them. Know what they say?
"Oh, I am sure it was just a misunderstanding"

Know how you bring it to their attention. When you and a Russian kid break 4 ribs, shatter an orbital bone, and KO a kid out cold so he shits and pisses himself.
Oct 14 2010 1:37AM
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Static
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you guys can take all your arguments, excuses and justifications, replace bullies with rapists (or if that blows your mind "OMG comparing rape to bullying!?" substitute any other cruel or savage act you with a human victim.) and look at the rediciousness of your statements.

Bullies will always be around!
Bulliing happens when you grow up to better get used to it!
Just fight back against the bullies and they stop!
Oct 14 2010 1:38AM
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neutralzombie
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go ahead and justify violence, because the last i checked, we had animal tendencies, but what sets us apart is our ability to stop and address a situation mentally, and make decisions. if you ever go around wondering why the world hasn't changed, it's probably because people didn't treat each other with respect and maturity. the irrational thinking you're talking about right now, that makes people fight, is exactly the same mental process people experience before suicide. and on the note of babies, please see my long assed post about the human brain and how everyone under 21 or something isnt fully mentally developed. words out of the mouth of a psychiatrist.
Oct 14 2010 1:38AM
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Mr.Panda
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So, what do you people that disagree with me and Gato say we do huh?

Counseling won't work.. kids that are bullies in those just laugh constantly about it and continue. School administrations don't do shit.

And bringing up rape? Ok, how do we stop rapists before they do anything? Find the gene in someone that makes them a rapist and kill them at birth? Why don't we do that to bullies too?
Oct 14 2010 1:41AM
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Mr.Panda
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Also, many bullies can't be reasoned with. Violence is the only thing some people ever understand.
Oct 14 2010 1:42AM
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neutralzombie
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probably because you live in a country, where fat asians aren't considered high on the hierchy scale. why, oh i dunno. probably because a lot of americans are pretty superficial. and on the note of bullying. i fought back, and i've decked guys in the face, and but it never solved my problems, and clearly telling people where to shove it on here really made my case even better. just because your case doesn't get solved, like someone elses, doesn't mean it's a solution. do you even know what bowling for columbine meant? did you know, that none of the teachers ever really stopped the bullying, or bothered with the complaints? cool. most people don't bother with it. and most parents, when their kids get into shit, defend their kid even if their wrong. perfect example. grade 11 math class, we had a substitute before an exam, and i told some annoying kid to shut the fuck up, and he got all in my face and my friend jumped in, so he decided to launch the girl across into some desks. what did his mother have to say? guess. it wasn't in favor of the girl he just assaulted.
Oct 14 2010 1:43AM
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neutralzombie
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because then we'd all end up like israel/palestine.
Oct 14 2010 1:43AM
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Static
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I think we should just go your guys' route, accept it as a reality, extend that train of thought to all crimes, fuck the victims, fight for yourself, take it in the ass, or slit your wrists. Wild west ourselves into an I'm so bad ass no one can touch me mr cool guy race
Oct 14 2010 1:44AM
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Mr.Panda
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So what's yours and Static's solution. Cause all I see so far is a bunch of "WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WWWWWAAAAHHHH!!!!" without any "We do A in this situation, if it doesn't work.. we do B"

So, give me a fucking answer of what your plan is.
Oct 14 2010 1:46AM
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jblaski
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No.

What the problem is, is this bullshit unicorns and rainbows, everything is fair, you're a winner too, last place gets a trophy, we don't keep score, pussy train of thought.

This BS attitude, that kids now days can't do anything wrong, is what is fucking them all up.

They need to be taught, life isn't fair. You don't have the god given right to be happy and sheltered every day of your life. Shit happens, people are assholes, your going to loose, someone else is better than you.

But what really needs to be taught, is how to respond when that happens. How to realize that a person is just being an asshole, how to learn from your mistakes, and how to come back better. And stronger. Guess what, LOSING ISN'T FUN. YOU SHOULDN'T ENJOY LOSING. But guess what, that doesn't mean you should go kill yourself. These kids need to be taught that when shit gets hard, you push harder. When someone is an asshole to them, you be an asshole back. Not guns or knives, but shit, if someone deserves a bloody nose because they finally said the one thing that pissed you off, there is no reason a principal, teacher, or parent can't turn their back for a couple minutes.

These kids NEED to be taught, that adversity is part of life. That you're going to get rejected, pushed down, laughed at, and stepped on. YOU DON'T GET A TROPHY FOR LAST PLACE. And they need to be taught that you don't sit down and fucking cry about it. You stand up, brush the dirt off, and go on with your life.

If you have strong self image, know how to respond to adversity, know that you can get back up after falling, then they don't think of the pussy ways out. You know how to fight your way out, physically and mentally.
Oct 14 2010 1:50AM
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neutralzombie
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well it's pretty simple, make sure you raise your kids to have respect, and make sure you encourage everyone to do the same. if you see someone in need, ask them if they're ok. make an effort. make sure, you yourself, conducts your expression with respect, and dignity, and integrity. tell people when they're being dicks that the way they're being isn't cool. you all think i'm a raging psychotic bitch, but i'm just calling it like i see it. if anybody on this site, ever had something they needed to talk about. guarantee, i'm the number one person, anyone can ever come to.

there's nothing you can do about unchangable people, or mental disorders, like psychosis, or personality disorders. but turning your back to anyone, doesn't fix the problem, and neither does living in fear, something that a lot of people see portrayed in americans. not everyone is out to get you, stand your ground when you see something unfair, and do something about things that bother you. i clearly execute it. you can'y expect everyone to always tel lyou what you have to do. sometimes you have to be able to think for yourself, but obviously not everyone's a leader. i hope to god, if your child ever bullies anyone, that you'll sit down and talk to them about. why they're doing it in particular, and what you as their parent can do to help. a lot of people don't know why they're pissed, but once you have a break through, your world usually changes.
Oct 14 2010 1:52AM
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PacificRimJob
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If you honestly cannot handle the internet hate that you'll see online, then get the hell off and go do something more productive, because people behind a screen always will be at their worse...

not only that, but really? suck it up and deal with it. stop being such a wuss and get back at them - they're only attacking you because they have a weakness... or multiple weaknesses.
Oct 14 2010 1:54AM
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Static
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yea, why don't these pussies just drop out of school if they can't handle it! If you're getting bullied you deserve it!
Oct 14 2010 1:56AM
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neutralzombie
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that's not at all what i'm saying. but no one should grow up thinking the world is out to get them.
Oct 14 2010 1:56AM
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Mr.Panda
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First off, conducting yourself with respect, dignity, and integrity is what MAKES you a target for bullying. The more you flaunt your skills in anything, the more you are better than someone at something, the more DIFFERENT you are the more you get targeted. I am Japanese/Czech/Romanian. I was going to get enough shit as it was in school simply for being Asian and not white. Add that to the fact that I was somewhat intelligent and taking AP classes as a sophmor it gets worse. Add that I am fat, I am NOT athletic (well, used to not be I have kinda improved there), and in a small community add all that the size and stuff and then put in that instead of playing football I did piano for 10 years I am a perfect target. And then in a small community where high school football is the equivalent of the World Series every Friday I am the recipe for getting picked on. And then to act with dignity and integrity on top of it and every meathead fuck nugget who has daddy issues is coming for me.

Now, take that and add in that the people that would target me.. are the star athletes. nothing I say will get to them or the administration since they are everyones little baby.


And this leads me to the second sentence I am quoting... I tell someone that picks on me that, wanna know their reaction:
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Followed most likely by getting pushed into the lockers.



The biggest problem is the mentality that is in, at least American schools now, and that is the mentality that "there are no winners and losers. Showing up is enough. Good job"

Life doesn't work that way. There are winners, and there are losers. And losing, fucking sucks. If you have the mentality of "oh even if I lose it is OK" you are then mentally weak. If you have the mentality of "I wanna fucking win and if I lose this is gonna fucking suck" when someone tries picking on you all you are gonna do is sit there and laugh at them.
Oct 14 2010 2:01AM
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neutralzombie
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^^ what's ever dude, you're obviously still stuck reliving your shitty past. have fun.
Oct 14 2010 2:02AM
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neutralzombie
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i type so good tonight.
Oct 14 2010 2:03AM
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Static
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it's funny you think that's the problem, rather than the acceptance of bullying in schools


You guys keep going back to the valuable life skills the bullys are providing the "faggots" and "sluts" with. But actually the real life BS, wins and losses, are nothing personal. To equate not getting a job to relentless malevolent verbal and emotional abuse from sometimes an entire group just doesn't cut it. Do you guys who are still in college really expect people in your career or neighborhood, as you grow older, to hatefully berate you for any reason?
Oct 14 2010 2:19AM
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PacificRimJob
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Dude... I've been bullied my whole fucking life... fucking sack up and do something about it like I did. Now i'm fucking good to go in life, and all those people who bullied me? they have kids, or got fat, or got married to a slut, and I'm still able to go out and get drunk and have fun and they're obligated to their job at taco bell.


Oct 14 2010 2:23AM
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neutralzombie
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a lot of people have been bullied in life, but it doesn't mean people who witness it should let it slide.
Oct 14 2010 2:24AM
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beezey
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I am a bully. on the internet.
Oct 14 2010 2:25AM
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Mr.Panda
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You haven't read anything I have typed have you? I specifically stated several posts back the biggest problem is the fact that the administrations of school never listen to the victims because "The football captain, the wrestling captain, the dance team captain, and the cheer squad captain could NEVER do something like that".

Your reading comprehension... is teh suck.
Oct 14 2010 2:26AM
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PacificRimJob
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Theyre fucking humans... Are they obligated to do jack shit?

Is it ethical? perhaps not in our heavily christianized culture. but they have NO obligation to step in and be some good Samaritan...
Oct 14 2010 2:28AM
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neutralzombie
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i don't know what planet you live on.
Oct 14 2010 2:29AM
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PacificRimJob
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Yeah... all these wussy capitalists wasting their life for non-motherlandy things...
Oct 14 2010 2:29AM
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Nico_G
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economy sucked when he got in dumbass bush is the reason were economically in the shitter.

but before that dumb statement everything else you said was true
Oct 14 2010 2:31AM
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Static
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yea you talk in a lot of circles, my bad

Quoting Mr.PandaUltimate Bling! from Oct 14 2010 2:01:55:
The biggest problem is the mentality that is in, at least American schools now, and that is the mentality that "there are no winners and losers. Showing up is enough. Good job"

lol, bringing my reading comprehension into question
Oct 14 2010 2:34AM
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Mr.Panda
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Bush drove it into a ditch.

Obama took it OUT of the ditch and drove it off a cliff in Norway. Sorry, 2 years later.. it's all on you bitch.
Oct 14 2010 2:35AM
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katalina
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violence used to be the best solution. i just had a talk with my dad about this the other day actually.. he was saying that if kids were giving you shit... you taught them to mind their manners in the gravel parking lot after school. and if it kept going, then your dad taught their dad to mind his manners. that's just how things were... cops were never called.. it wasn't bad enough to put people into the hospital usually, because people were not crazy they used FISTS instead of knives, bats, guns etc.

1 on 1 and that solved everything.
but now, you try that method and you get shot or stabbed? society has a lot of problems

Oct 14 2010 2:37AM
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Static
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ok so I went back over your post, I never found anywhere you "specifically stated" "the biggest problem is the fact that the administrations of school never listen to the victims" you made mention of the situation several times, but as an accepted reality.
Oct 14 2010 2:38AM
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Mr.Panda
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Nice job missing the point of that post. That mentality creates the bullies because "Aw, nothing you EVER do is wrong"


And notice this post:
"What the fuck can I, as the victim of bullying do? The Administration is never gonna listen to the fat Asian kid in two AP classes and in band when they say that the QB and Wrestling and star running back keep picking on them. Know what they say?
"Oh, I am sure it was just a misunderstanding"

Know how you bring it to their attention. When you and a Russian kid break 4 ribs, shatter an orbital bone, and KO a kid out cold so he shits and pisses himself. "

Just admit that you have no idea how to correct this and shut the fuck up.
Oct 14 2010 2:39AM
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neutralzombie
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columbine? montreal? who else had school shootings? who else has terrible public school systems? who else has a lot of violence in their public schools? she's right.
Oct 14 2010 2:42AM
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Mr.Panda
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Dude, I live in little old Ferndale and some kid got basically gang raped by the cops because he had a Mac-10 in his belt.
Oct 14 2010 2:43AM
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Anathema
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i had buddies who went to dawson when that shit went down. shit's crazy.
Oct 14 2010 2:45AM
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steezeeepolizeee
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people can stand around and act all high and mighty after the fact but if you want to actually make a change then stand up when someone is bullying another kid and not just walk by because its not your problem. Fuck the whole WWJD thing, what's the right thing to do. I had no problem sticking up for someone when the were getting bullied in highschool and just telling the other person to fuck off. PPl say its a part of HS and growing up but that is only the case if you let it be.
Oct 14 2010 2:46AM
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Static
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no no, that's not what you meant, you even expanded on it

"The biggest problem is the mentality that is in, at least American schools now, and that is the mentality that "there are no winners and losers. Showing up is enough. Good job"

Life doesn't work that way. There are winners, and there are losers. And losing, fucking sucks. If you have the mentality of "oh even if I lose it is OK" you are then mentally weak. If you have the mentality of "I wanna fucking win and if I lose this is gonna fucking suck" when someone tries picking on you all you are gonna do is sit there and laugh at them."

you were regarding those unable to cope with "losing" as the problem.
Oct 14 2010 2:48AM
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Mr.Panda
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Actually, I wasn't.

The point of my post was that the way people are taught that "losing is OK" is stupid and causes people to sit there and accept people getting bullied.
Oct 14 2010 2:50AM
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Static
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quit trying backtrack and twist your words, we can all read what you wrote
Oct 14 2010 2:57AM
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Mr.Panda
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And what I wrote is not what you are understanding since your reading comprehension levels are that of a 2nd grader.
Oct 14 2010 3:00AM
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neutralzombie
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yeah well fisticuffs is really a thing of the past. a lot of shit is settled with weapons or ganging up on people. it's fucked. maybe it doesn't happen every day, but i guarantee something goes down at least once a month in north america. school shootings have multiplied since columbine, and plans of school shootings have popped up a lot. we've had at least two in montreal, and i know that where i grew up, in farm towns in laval, the schools were the worst, even to a point, where one school, at an assembly, beat up the principle. montreal schools arent generally bad, there's just the few bad apples, but these kids weren't born bad, they just come from bad parenting. and it's a shame.
Oct 14 2010 3:00AM
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Static
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yea, I've made very specific references to your comments, your only refute is "I meant to say this even though it's not what I typed"

Do it again!
Oct 14 2010 3:02AM
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neutralzombie
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haha i don't think they were fighting wars in the name of god.
Oct 14 2010 3:03AM
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Mr.Panda
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Oct 14 2010 3:04AM
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Mr.Panda
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You would be surprised in rural America.... People called others heretics at my school once.
Oct 14 2010 3:06AM
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Mr.Panda
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Yeah... and the annual witch was usually a VW Bug from the local junkyard... that may or may NOT have gotten cut and half and welded around the flagpole... and may or may not have had a certain NS member partake in said welding.
Oct 14 2010 3:09AM
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damuffinmann
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theres a girl in my town who is in 6th grade and shes prego
Oct 14 2010 11:05AM
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Gary_Busey
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Static-1

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Oct 14 2010 11:56AM
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ORDEAL
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Jesus.
Oct 14 2010 4:15PM
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