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Natural Spinning/Rail Sliding?

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Midwestjibski
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Most skiers have a natural way they spin (right or left) and a natural way they slide rails (right foot or left foot forward).  My question is why do people have a "natural"?   Is it just what they feel or is it biologically imprinted in them?  

Think about this.  People are either right or left handed.  With my humble high school knowledge of biology I know that being right or left handed/footed has to do with genes.  Everybody uses their hands, but not everyone spins or slides rails on skis, so why is there a natural inclination to do one or the other?  I would assume there is no gene for having a "natural" in skiing.  So it might be just what you see first or what looks/feels right to you. 

I know that when I started skiing, I KNEW I slid rails right foot forward even before I even slid one.  For some reason I never even had to try out left foot forward because I KNEW that I was right foot forward.

This calls into question one more thing.  Is there a greater number of skiers with a certain Natural?  For example, do more skiers slide rails right foot forward than left?  I have observed from what I have seen in skiers that it seems that more skiers spin left than right.  Is this coincidence or is are more people naturally inclined to spin left?

These are just some random thoughts I am having because its pretty much summer on newschoolers.
These are my thoughts, now it's your turn NS.  Discuss.
thanks
May 4 2010 6:56PM
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Milksteak
Posts: 9948 - Karma: 842
I spin both ways.
(no homo)
May 4 2010 6:58PM
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TheButterHashira
Posts: 9691 - Karma: 1,702
I started slide right foot forward because I already snowboard, skated goofy and I spun my 180s to the left at the time. I have noticed others who might spin left but prefer left foot forward though.
The foot forward on the rail doesn't even matter that much to me now though, but whether I spin on spinning right or left does. I find it a lot easier to spin unatty once already on the rail and doing a switch up or spinning out than spinning a right 90 or 270 on. Really good skiers probably don't notice a great difference in spinning left or right.
May 4 2010 7:02PM
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mkuczmarski11
Posts: 103 - Karma: 8
wow this is really interesting. I usually spin to the right, and then slide rails left foot forward. i actually tried initially spinning left and sliding right foot foward, but I kept falling. Then I tried spinning the other way and it just felt right.
May 4 2010 7:04PM
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*steeze_is_good
Posts: 2885 - Karma: 718
I spin right and slide right foot forward, but I'm right handed. I also play hockey and golf left though
May 4 2010 7:06PM
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Delaney
Posts: 621 - Karma: 206
spin right, right foot foward and righty with everything else
May 4 2010 7:09PM
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deathcookie
Posts: 1800 - Karma: 1,196
I spin right, slide left foot forward, but Im a righty.  I jump off my left foot though and sometimes Im better with my left foot in soccer.  I can only cork on a trampoline to the left tho.  Righties spin to the left because they use there right side of their body to wind up and propel the spin.
May 4 2010 7:14PM
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MADDECENT
Posts: 5579 - Karma: 951
I spin left, slide right foot forward, right handed.

I think my way is the more popular.
May 4 2010 7:16PM
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Midwestjibski
Posts: 1676 - Karma: 77
Yeah I'm the same.  But what causes it?
May 4 2010 7:20PM
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MADDECENT
Posts: 5579 - Karma: 951
eh I'm sure like you said there is a gene for it because one is so much harder than the other, just like right and left handed writing.

Most people probably never use that gene though.

I have a question:

Do you all skate the same foot forward as you grind on skis? I do
May 4 2010 7:23PM
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steezenskis
Posts: 1044 - Karma: 31
definately a gene thing. all my friends spin right foot forward.
May 4 2010 7:30PM
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tacobellslayer
Posts: 1493 - Karma: 214
If your right handed, and you use your hands to throw a spin (at least when your first starting out) your going to have a "heavy" right hand, because you use it more often and have a greater sense of throwing it, when compaired to a left hand which, as a natural right handed person, will be "lighter" because you won't have as much use in it. Therefore when you start spinning, it'll be easier to lead with your right hand, by spinning left. That tranfers to rails then after you're able to spin in the air. (most of the time)
May 4 2010 7:34PM
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dreadyboy
Posts: 2306 - Karma: 34
I dunno what you're talking about, I spin ambi and I'm ambi on a skateboard.
May 4 2010 7:35PM
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TheDude
Posts: 2058 - Karma: 117

rather unrelated but a good way to tell which foot you'll put forward:

stand with your back to a person (they cant be expecting it) and push them gently in the back so they take a step. the foot they step with is there dominante forr, therfore there sliding foot. This is how you tell which foot a noob wake/snowboarder puts forword so i figgured its semi relavent...

May 4 2010 7:46PM
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andrew.
Posts: 2349 - Karma: 165
most people spin left and slide right foot forward or slide left foot forward and spin right, but i know a kid who slides left foot forward and spins left.
May 4 2010 8:07PM
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tayhawx
Posts: 135 - Karma: 114
spin left. right foot forward on rails. right handed. regular for snow/skateboarding.
May 4 2010 9:41PM
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Jennings
Posts: 2190 - Karma: 90
so spinning left and sliding right foot forward is dominant. yeahh
May 4 2010 9:56PM
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J-Neal
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I slide rails left foot forward and spin right - so do a few of my friends, but the majority of them do the opposite
May 4 2010 10:00PM
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jeR.
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for me it came down to which was my 'good' foot... ie the foot i used to kick in soccer. I kick with my right foot, therefore i slide rails right foot forward, therefore i spin left. one of my friends who learnt rails with me spins right, but slides right foot forward because he just learnt how to skis rails with me and others who slide right foot forward. i guess what im saying is it happens naturally for some people like me, or it is a learned muscle memory in the case of my friend
May 4 2010 10:07PM
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marsland
Posts: 3150 - Karma: 421
spin left, grind right foot forward, but i skate left foot forward.  am i weird? 
May 4 2010 10:30PM
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danbrown
Posts: 11932 - Karma: 21,775
me too
May 4 2010 10:33PM
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Zoro
Posts: 1253 - Karma: 37
i think it has to do with which of your legs is dominatnt.  i kick a ball with my right foot and i spin left, as do most of my friends.  one of my friends spins right and kicks with his left foot. 
May 4 2010 10:37PM
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ISellMeth
Posts: 1440 - Karma: 673
Spin left and slide right
May 4 2010 10:48PM
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AndrewNZ
Posts: 477 - Karma: 13
i have heard that there was a scientific experiment done on a random sample of non skiers (the experiment was not for skiing but relates to it.) and apprantely like 80+% of the people studied, when told to spin 360 degrees, rotated to the left, and only a few people spun right.. so I guess as it is more common to be right handed, more common to spin left? But as to why it feels weird to spin unatural is the same unatural feeling of writing left handed. If you train yourself to spin right/write with your left hand, it will work.
May 4 2010 10:49PM
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throwin_steeze
Posts: 364 - Karma: 885
this is interesting, cause i spin left, slide left and jack off right.
May 5 2010 2:02AM
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Ian.Ham
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I slide both ways because I first slid right foot forward because I spin left, but left foot forward was easy too because that is how I skate.
May 5 2010 2:30AM
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-ROY-
Posts: 3633 - Karma: 1,503
natural-left foot forward..and yea before i even slid a box/rail i knew i was going to go left foot forward.
May 5 2010 3:14AM
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Jahseph.
Posts: 1315 - Karma: 267

When I started skateboarding, goofy just always felt more natural to me and I'm assuming that is why sliding right foot forward/spinning left feels more natural to me now, but I have no clue why I always skated goofy.

I know that when you are still an infant they can determine which will be your dominant hand by having you stand up and slowly leaning you forward until you take a step, and based on which foot you use they can figure it out, but I am unsure what it is in the human genome that causes the dominance. Good question though.

May 5 2010 3:27AM
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hanna.v
Posts: 149 - Karma: 55

i spin left, and  i'm right-handed. i guess it's so because when you spin left, the arm wich needs more power for doing spinning movements is the right one, and if you always write, play tennis, basketball or whatever with your right arm, then of course the right arm is stronger. therefor its stronger for doing the spin and it gives you more balance?

so i guess its similiar with your feet

May 5 2010 5:59AM
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zagfan5
Posts: 2608 - Karma: 144
slide left foot forward, spin left, and i'm naturally a lefty, but when i was a kid my dad told me to do things right handed, like writing and throwing and eating and such since there more right handed ppl in the world its easier to be able to do things right handed as opposed to left handed so i'm basically ambidextrous now since im programmed to do left, but was taught right. like in baseball i bat left handed but i golf right handed. and i throw right handed but can bowl left handed better. i ramble when i'm high, anyways

sparknotes : left spin, left foot forward,skate regular, lefty but learned right too, so i'm ambidextrious
May 5 2010 6:16AM
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hauser
Posts: 1131 - Karma: 469
Everything in life is phycological.
May 5 2010 6:57AM
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thejackal1177
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Its all about what you do more. If you started spinning left then obviously you have more experiance with it. What makes the general decision probably has alot to do with which way people see other people spinning. Example: someone watches a video and sees tanner hall spin to the left. There going to think thats the way they spin too.
May 5 2010 7:04AM
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leahey
Posts: 2548 - Karma: 32
I DO BOTH. HOMO.
May 5 2010 7:32AM
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Jennings
Posts: 2190 - Karma: 90
i only do one. but still HOMO
May 5 2010 11:05PM
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MCNUGGETS
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i skate how i slide....GOOFY
May 5 2010 11:14PM
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FREEskiLINE
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actually my first few 3's i did right and then did them again like the next weekend and spun left haha i forgot which way i did it originaly and i couldnt land it for like the rest of the season then i remembered that i spin right and started landing them again hahaha
May 6 2010 4:14PM
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find
Posts: 431 - Karma: 27
nope, i skate regular and hit rails right foot forward, but going unnatty isn't that hard for me
May 6 2010 4:25PM
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ChipSki
Posts: 327 - Karma: 34
Same
May 6 2010 5:19PM
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B-runge
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i spin left

and go left foot forward on griders, but i used to go right, it really doesnt matter anymore tho
May 6 2010 5:35PM
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es94
Posts: 291 - Karma: 67
spin right and slide right foot forward
May 6 2010 5:44PM
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Aaaron.
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*swing
May 6 2010 5:45PM
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Scrambles
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i spin left, go on ride on rails/boxes left foot forward, and urban rails right foot forward, doesnt make alot of sense...

May 6 2010 11:52PM
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B-runge
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at first i was like wtf^
but then i saw where i could enjoy that....
May 7 2010 12:10AM
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Adrian_
Posts: 81 - Karma: 16
i spin left going forwards and right going switch. does anybody else do this or have an explanation?
May 7 2010 10:47AM
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Newschool_Pope
Posts: 2473 - Karma: 267
i dont, on a skateboard my left foot is up front.

when sliding rails my right foot is in the front.


May 7 2010 10:52AM
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RickAstley
Posts: 953 - Karma: 32
ditto
May 7 2010 11:06AM
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EvanMeyer
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spin left slide left foor forward but im right handed and when i rollerblade my left foot is my natural soul foot
May 7 2010 11:48AM
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hauny
Posts: 124 - Karma: 29
somebody should start a poll for this.
May 7 2010 12:02PM
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Juice.Doctor
Posts: 2791 - Karma: 293
i naturally spin left but i slide rails with my right foot forward. because im so ghood
May 7 2010 12:04PM
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hauny
Posts: 124 - Karma: 29
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May 7 2010 12:20PM
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Hack.The.Pow.
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I guess I'm weird because I spin left, slide left foot forward, am right handed, and skate regular. When I first started hittin rails I figured I would hit the rail as if I was riding a skateboard, and it felt natural
May 7 2010 12:21PM
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