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What DIN do the pros use?

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Samckoy
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Im a level 3+ skier, 180 pounds and 6'4" and I use a DIN of 9-10. That said, I'm curious as to what DIN most pros use with their skiing style of high speed, huge drops, etc. It's just a curiosity thing, they must make bindings that go up to a DIN of 15 for a reason. But do pros even use a DIN that high?
Sep 30 2009 11:39AM
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coolhandluke
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Sep 30 2009 11:45AM
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spliff.Life
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thats up all the way!
Sep 30 2009 11:56AM
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Big_Spence
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Yeah, but they're Salomons, so the binding will probably break soon enough.
Sep 30 2009 11:57AM
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Lemuel
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If I am not mistaken, they are at 13 and go up to 16?
Sep 30 2009 12:50PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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also, you never run your DIN on the highest setting. just cause your binding goes to 15 does not mean you should run it there, it puts unnecesary stress on the springs
Sep 30 2009 1:11PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
High enough for them to stay on when they need to. Low enough for then to release when they need to.
Sep 30 2009 1:11PM
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LC.
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Myth.
Sep 30 2009 1:13PM
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Lemuel
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I would also agree that it is a myth.  If you take the Jester and Griffon side by side, you can obviously see that on the Griffon there is space go past 12 and on the Jester you can go lower than 6.  It is because they use the same body (different materials) with a different, or even possibly the same spring they just use a different scale.  I don't know if that is true, just a thought about the spring.  I don't know if that is easy to follow but if you look you can see.
Sep 30 2009 1:19PM
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Caveman.
Posts: 9067 - Karma: 330
I know a race coach who used to buy turn 18 DIN table bindings, take the springs out, put washers in the binding to increase spring tension then turn them all the way up. This was a long time ago when it would be safe to do something like this.
Sep 30 2009 1:35PM
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skia4life89
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that din in the pic is clearly at 13 guys..
Sep 30 2009 3:33PM
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headlight
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The logic that is used is something like ......-  if u are more concerned that your bindings SHOULD release or if it is safer for them to release then u are in the consumer / regular situation.

If your performance is such that it would be death if your ur binding released on u while on ur in-run or u doing ur trick / skiing then your are more concerned with retention.

So if u forces of chatter, hi impact, angles, speed etc....u may fee better with a hi DIN.  

So pros crank it up so that they won't get prerelease. freeride and freestyle go up to DIN16.

There are binding s available to racers that are not available to the public that go to Din 20 and higher...u don't want to have a ski chatter off at 140 km in a downhill.

Release vs. Retention the only reasons to go either way.

Type 3 - Aggressive, higher speed skiing at higher release/retention settings. Skers who designate themselves "3" must accept a narrower margin of release in order to gain a wider margin of retention.

Sep 30 2009 8:34PM
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Avifarer
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seth rides at 14 usually. it was a trivia question at a film festival
Sep 30 2009 9:15PM
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Pman13a
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i cant believe he rides s916s
Sep 30 2009 9:37PM
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ham_and_steeze
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they get the highest din they can for comps. i think
Sep 30 2009 9:38PM
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MEGAZORD
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On park stuff ill usually do ~9.5-10 in the toe and 11 in the heel.
wider stuff ill go with 11 toe 12-13 in the heel.
Sep 30 2009 9:46PM
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MANDER
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i know jon leaves his din at 20. but jon never falls so it doesnt really matter
Sep 30 2009 10:09PM
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DHogg
Posts: 3462 - Karma: 235
Yeah. I mean its not only one of the best bindings ever made or anything...
Sep 30 2009 10:32PM
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Chompo.
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amplid makes 18 din bindings
Sep 30 2009 10:51PM
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DHogg
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actually tyrolia makes an 18 din binding that amplid puts their name on
Sep 30 2009 10:53PM
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-james-
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marker comp 22.0 bindings the public can buy
Sep 30 2009 11:32PM
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MEGAZORD
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Marker does  the Comp 20.0
They also have a Comp 30.0
there is no 22.0
Sep 30 2009 11:47PM
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-james-
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yes there is my coach has them i looked today they are clearly comp 22.0 
Oct 1 2009 6:56AM
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bikerocker
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they have a comp 50.0 for real.

you ever seen a wc dh? yeah. pretty much suicide. when those guys crash they are kicking their heel pieces so hard to get out before they blow an acl....

but I was under the impression that all pros ran their dins ant around 2 million.

i dunno. I'm 180, 510, 326 bsl, and my recomended at 3+ is a 10, I run my heels at 12. never have any issues, and I def. pop out when I need to. But I'm not pro, so i don't need 2 million.
Oct 1 2009 11:02AM
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huge-go
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The only reason marker makes such high DIN bindings is because they think that they can compensate for a lack of elasticity by jacking up the DIN. FKS 185 was more than enough for the racers who used them, not just because of the high DIN, but high elasticity.
Oct 1 2009 11:39AM
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Big_Spence
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Truth.
Oct 1 2009 11:43AM
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SickStickz
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False.  If you put your dins at the max the spring wears out faster, I know this first hand.  If  you have 14 din set binders then dont ski them above a 12.  If you do set them at a 14...after a couple months or so the spring will not hold the same tension.
Oct 1 2009 1:13PM
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BC.
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6'5 195 Riding a 13 Din ATM.
Oct 1 2009 2:16PM
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PaleCelery
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what is that on his skis
Oct 1 2009 2:19PM
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baaangthat
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Oct 1 2009 2:35PM
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Caveman.
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I thought there was 21 din version of the FKS available exclusively for racers and big pros?
Oct 1 2009 2:39PM
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MEGAZORD
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Clearly says 916.  Its just an older silver one.
Oct 1 2009 4:10PM
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Caveman.
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I think hes talking about the strap thing above the toe piece..
Oct 1 2009 4:25PM
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coolhandluke
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the orange ski strap?  holds your skis and poles together.
Oct 1 2009 4:26PM
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PaleCelery
Posts: 7228 - Karma: 608
not the bindings.

I'm talking about the rail looking things. But I looked closer and realized they are just poles
Oct 1 2009 4:26PM
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gaper-raper
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aha! i search barred and found this!, anyone know if they can validate pros current din settings?
Oct 31 2014 2:51AM
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Caucasian_Asian
Posts: 2447 - Karma: 1,665
There are some really stupid replies in this thread.
Oct 31 2014 11:27AM
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RubberSoul
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Caucasian_AsianThere are some really stupid replies in this thread.


god i can't stand posts like this. "there are some really stupid replies in this thread.....but im not going to say which ones they are or refute them, or even offer the slightest bit of info myself. i just want to sound superior"

for park and big mtn skiers, there's a big range used obviously. back in the day in east coast parks i heard of and saw certain pros/ams riding their 16s and 18s maxed out. FUCK that
Oct 31 2014 12:22PM
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Park.
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RubberSoulgod i can't stand posts like this. "there are some really stupid replies in this thread.....but im not going to say which ones they are or refute them, or even offer the slightest bit of info myself. i just want to sound superior"

for park and big mtn skiers, there's a big range used obviously. back in the day in east coast parks i heard of and saw certain pros/ams riding their 16s and 18s maxed out. FUCK that


east coast hardcore real stuff dont fuck with that low din shit
Nov 1 2014 4:32PM
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toastyteenagers
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real pros skis break before they release
Nov 1 2014 9:42PM
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veng_m
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inb4 12 year olds turning up dins cuz tommy wallnuts does it
Nov 1 2014 9:55PM
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grifrowl
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Caveman.I know a race coach who used to buy turn 18 DIN table bindings, take the springs out, put washers in the binding to increase spring tension then turn them all the way up. This was a long time ago when it would be safe to do something like this.


My dad ski raced at a pretty high level back in the day.
/Claim

Supposedly his binding choices were cranked Marker M44, or Look Nevadas with Chevy 350 valve springs replacing the stock release springs.
Nov 1 2014 10:55PM
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ghosthop
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Caucasian_AsianThere are some really stupid replies in this thread.



Big_SpenceYeah, but they're Salomons, so the binding will probably break soon enough.


everyone knows that those all steel sally's are ready to crack into a million pieces at a moments notice. Those guys on 20 year old 957's must have no fucking clue
Nov 1 2014 11:19PM
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DP*
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will wesson told me he rides at what is recommended for him which was 12 i think he said. bmos told me he rides at like a 14 if i remember correctly. its all preference, bmos said "i should never have to come out becasue i shouldnt fall."
Nov 2 2014 1:31AM
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