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Just Found Fentanyl in Stepdad's garage

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EastCoast315
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What the fuck do I do?
My mom, who defends him to the death (that he isn't abusive/alcoholic/an asshole) would only accuse me of buying it to frame him, so telling her would do nothing.
I could confront him directly, but mingling in his trade could result in violence (I know he deals other opiates).
I could take photo evidence, keep it until I turn 16, and use it against him in a court, get emancipation and move in with my grandmother/uncle.
I could destroy it.
All I know is that I wont let it by me again. Ive found his Suboxone before, and didnt really do anything about it.

To add to this, I checked his history, and a few days ago he was reading all sorts of shit about FBI Clandestinely produced fentanyl from mexico, in the form of a Duregesic Transdermal patch, the most common form bought and sold illicitly, reinforcing my assumption that it was purchased illegitimately. They dont prescribe that shit to just anyone, that shits for like, cancer patients.

I dont know what the fuck to do

Sep 22 2009 6:21PM
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Hansel.
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Fentanyl — brand names include Actiq, Duragesic, Fentora, Onsolis[2], Sublimaze[3] and Instanyl[4] — is a synthetic primary μ-opioid agonist commonly used to treat chronic breakthrough pain and is commonly used pre-procedures. It is approximately 100 times more potent than morphine,[5] with 100 micrograms of fentanyl approximately equivalent to 10 mg of morphine and 75 mg of pethidine (meperidine) in analgesic activity.[5] It has an LD50 of 3.1 milligrams per kilogram in rats, 0.03 milligrams per kilogram in monkeys, and an undetermined LD50 in humans.
Sep 24 2009 7:44PM
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Crack.
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ok we've got very off topic.

I want this kid to post an update..it's not good he hasn't posted in a while
Sep 24 2009 7:45PM
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8ONE657
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I don't know if you all are familiar with the LD50 test but those dosages are pretty scary.
Sep 24 2009 7:50PM
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Crack.
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wait i have a question..

if you have never done fentanyl before and you take it, it would most likely kill you. it wouldn't kill you if you were a heroin addict though. I know it's for pain but why the FUCK do they even make this? unless you have slowly risen in doses of oxycontin?
Sep 24 2009 7:53PM
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Hansel.
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at that strength, first time probably would die, looking at a medical standpoint body cant take that much, but there are freak occurrences and stuff so you never know
Sep 24 2009 7:56PM
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Crack.
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yea but would they really take a chance like that?
Sep 24 2009 7:57PM
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Hansel.
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people are fucked up, drugs do bad things to people. so yea people would take a chance like that
Sep 24 2009 8:00PM
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Sufferboy
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just read whole thread. i hope shit works out dude. dont confront him directly eaither
Sep 24 2009 8:03PM
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poh_money
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pm'd rowen. read the whole thread, and reading some of NES's posts made me sick to my stomach. sometimes too far is too far. please post soon man.
Sep 24 2009 8:09PM
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=Carson=
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Oxycodone is a 12 twice a day pill this is for brake through pain, and most people on it have huge tolerances to opiates. + it doesnt kill you the first time you take it, mabey if you smoke all the gel at once you will OD but just sticking it on you it wont.
Sep 24 2009 8:15PM
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Crack.
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oh i see. do you smoke fentanyl?
Sep 24 2009 8:18PM
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=Carson=
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No I have know people who have though
Sep 24 2009 8:23PM
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T-Holt
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Just read the whole thread. +++++Vibes dude.  I hope everything works out.
NESblowjob is a worthless piece of shit, don't pay attention to him.
Sep 24 2009 8:36PM
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Ski.Ballet
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Man, I really feel for your situation. There is a lot of good advice in this thread though, and I'm sure you can pick out the good from the bad. I hope everything works out in yours and your brother's best interests. I also think we should petition to ban NES - he's by far the biggest piece of shit on this site.
Sep 24 2009 8:38PM
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Davy.Crockett
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its definitely a bummer about breaking up the family and your bro growing up without a dad but thats better then him growing up with a drug dealer dad. besides, if hes 8 months he probably wont remember. i would definitely go to the youth crisis line or something like that. they will no what to do
Sep 24 2009 8:49PM
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snowbird4life
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i'm the resident dope  fiend (at least actually open about it) i also understand no one really gives a rats ass about what i have to say on most subjects but hears what i have to say.

i am also on suboxone, and had been doing amazing, about 4 months clean and really being really into recovery, as of two days ago, i relapsed and hopelessly falling into oblivion. so unless your step father is a complete scumbag maybe you shouldnt rat him out (sorry only read 1/2 the thread so im sure the issue is resolved)

but if hes on suboxone hes obviously trying to be on the right path, i think you should confront him on the issue and tell him to put all his shit on display, and have a reallly good talk, hopefully you will be able to learn whether hes serious or just a jerk-off.

i hate making stupid emo comments like the one im about to make, but when i relapsed this time around (on day 3 of using, hopefully i can get back on track tomorrow) but i was so ashamed of relapsing, i wanted to kill myself and leave a note saying i did this so everyone would understand, i am trying to fight this battle, and that i do want a good life for myself, i just cant seem to win. because i dont want people to think i use for a good time, or that i just want to party.

maybe your step dad is like me, and just keeps losing the battle for his sobriety. so as long as you catch the drift that he's trying maybe just support him. but if you come to the conclusion that hes a complete scumbag than hang him out to dry. but thats subjective, because im sure most of you would htink im a complete scumbag for using, so in the end it really is all up to you.

sorry for the long pointless post that maybe one or two people might read.

Sep 24 2009 9:18PM
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EastCoast315
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Just letting you guys know that I posted an update on the page before this one, as of today. Im alright, not on the streets or anything extreme.

However I did just talk a little to my uncle. We agreed that this was a pathetic step, even in the life of a junkie. My stepdad had been illegally buying suboxone as a way to ween himself of heroin. Once he was completely off heroin, he never ended up getting off the suboxone (its cheap enough where he doesnt care). So its really stupid that hes not just going a step up from sub, hes going a step up and over.

He told me that the best idea is to not fuck with it. Just stop talking to him, as he is a fool and a lost cause. Which Im going to take into effect immediately. I didn't ask him if calling the cops would be an option, but I will ask him tomorrow. He did however, say that its a felony just to have those pictures, me being underage for a prescription, and the drug is schedule II, so I should delete them.
So I guess Im just going to ignore him, avoid him, whatever.

Im going to spend the weekend with him, discussing this shit. His house burned down, so he has a new one that needs to be worked on. So I'll get money for skiing, time away from home, and some good advice. Ill update this soon
Sep 24 2009 9:22PM
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SteezyOhio
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best of luck man!
Sep 24 2009 10:00PM
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user098123
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I still wouldn't delete those pictures. If anything ever goes bad you have proof. With your stepdads history you won't be in trouble for having them. At least I wouldn't think so.
Sep 24 2009 10:10PM
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.jesus.
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somebody please ban this asshole? and to the op im so fucking sorry that shit sucks +vibes
Sep 24 2009 11:07PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Who the fuck are you to tell a kid who is having a life crisis that hes a "sick fuck" and should kill himself?

Do society a favor and overdose on whatever asshole pills you're taking. IP banned for your present and past episodes of bullshit, get the fuck off this site.


Sep 24 2009 11:39PM
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Kmania
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major ownage. glad the d-bags are getting weeded out
Sep 24 2009 11:41PM
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.jesus.
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yay rowen i love you
Sep 24 2009 11:42PM
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k-rob
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props to rowen, so sick of that kid.
Sep 24 2009 11:45PM
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charmander
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hey man, i just wanted to say i respect you a lot.

i know that your experience with addiction has been alot worse than most anyone on this site, mad props for actually trying to stay clean.

i'm sad you relapsed but i definately don't think any less of you for it.

10/10 karma
Sep 24 2009 11:49PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Dude, you're at least very honest about yourself, better than most addicts I know who lie and hide their behavior. If you're in this mindset now, I cant imagine you'll be on this stuff long.
Sep 24 2009 11:52PM
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Ski.Ballet
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Way to go, Rowen! There may be hope for NSG yet...
Sep 24 2009 11:53PM
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=Carson=
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Hey +vibes for your situation, I can imagine how you feel. I was addicted to opiates last year and have been clean for 452 days (: !! The thinks addicts due cant be excused, the suffering I put my family through still eats me today. With my experience in the other side of this situation puts me in position to give you some advise in what I wish my brothers would have done early in somewhat the position you are in.

First he will have to change or will end up in prison and dead and both of those are not good. He truly loves you but being and addict will make you do things that will haunt you once you are sober. He needs to hit rock bottom and have nothing else to loose till he can start the climb back to a normal life. Withdraws alone will make you want to never stop. Most likely he is using his soboxone to be able to  maintain his habit when he doesn't have his fix. In my opinion Suboxone is harder to quit then the opiate itself. When I went to rehab their was 4 or 5 people in the for Soboxone.

You need to talk to him and tell him that you dont want to see him die and how it makes you feel about him killing himself infront of you. and tell him that you will support him 100 percent if he want to change and get help. If not you will not support or have a relation ship with him in anyway. This is what my family did to me and even though withdraws were the worst thing i thought could happen to me, even in the depths of my addiction i knew deepdown not having my family would be the worst thing even more the dieing on the streets.

Next here is a website http://www.treatment-centers.net/treatment-directory/new-york.html?format=html&limitstart=120  And http://www.na.org
He will not beable to do this alone without support from other recovering addicts. My first few meetings I didnt say a word but just knowing I was not alone and wasnt the only person who did the things i did made me cope and deal with my emotions alot easyer. Also I made a new social network. He cant talk or hangout with the people he did before or else a relapse is inevitable. I never went to get so much coffe etc before in my life before NA. It teaches you what to do instead of getting high and how to live a normal productive life. Also the first website is for treatment programs. he needs to do ATLEAST detox or he wont ever quit. If money is an issue thier are ways to still do it. Methadone imho is much better for serious addicts becuase of the clinics.

Im really tired so I cant finish this now but I will edit and add to it in the morning.

ALso PM me if you want to talk about this since I have been on both sides of this and can help you deal wiith it with first hand expericne as the Addict and the Brother that helped get my sister out of an Adiction. lastly ADDICTION IS A DISIEASE THAT CAN ALWAY BE CURED Hang in thier brother this wont fix itself overnight and will be tough for your whole family. If you do want to talk more about this You can PM me also for my Cell Number and call me when ever you want, I had people to talk to when I went through this and even listing to other people talk can really help, and so does venting to an actual person. GL
Sep 25 2009 5:12AM
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[BRI]noceros
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yes!
Sep 25 2009 6:17AM
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Thenowhereman42
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Oh.  So its just a very strong opiate then.

Who the fuck gets addicted to opiates anyway?  At least get addicted to something fun like E or some sort of speed or hallucienogenic.
Sep 25 2009 6:59AM
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EastCoast315
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Who the fuck gets addicted to anything? Really dude
Sep 25 2009 9:32AM
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lydiaiskwllol
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I disagree
Sep 25 2009 9:45AM
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Static
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With what? the fact that plenty of people use Fentanyl? The fact that he'd be making life harder for his mom by making her raise two kids on her own? The fact he's the only one who hung around after his mom got herself knocked up? The fact that he would not be allowed to live on his own?
Sep 25 2009 9:55AM
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JRullo
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step 1 - steal most of it

step 2 - sell it all

step 3 - get money

step 4 - buy tons of new ski shit and live it up

easy as that

Sep 25 2009 12:49PM
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beezey
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Don't wait. Looking into my past, waiting for that shit is not a good thing. if you can turn them in, your also helping him get over his problem. your mother will trust you if your honest talk to you counsler first let them understand your situation tell them your going to tell your mother and then go on to the task in front of you. I would also take pictures of it.

Sep 25 2009 1:03PM
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SteezyOhio
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there were alot of other people i'd like to quote but this one line made me chuckle, not in this kids sake or in his dads, but i watch the show intervention, and this is absolutely always their opening statement, irony, not really, just i made the translation.

To the guy who came out about his addiction and relapse, Best of luck to you, your courageous for being able to except it is a problem, and strong in your acts and effort to change it.

to the OP, still hoping for the best.

and finally, For Rowen, THANK GOD! that kid was a TWAT! thanks for actually posting in here to announce it too.
10/10 for everybody who has helped with this and all
Sep 25 2009 1:42PM
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=Carson=
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Its so true though if your in the dope game long enough you will see people being pulled out of porto johns near you cop spot etc. And their is no way around it, this idea was pounded into my head at rehab eventually was just common sense to me. So to all other people thinking about getting a shit ton of OCs etc just know it will come to a brutal stop fast in most cases. :)
Sep 25 2009 4:07PM
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ween
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Yo fuck shitty step dads, i've been there and done that shit dude. Report him to the police or let someone close to you that isn't biased know about that. Things will only get worse, not trying to scare you or anything but its true.
Sep 25 2009 6:03PM
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grifftang
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thank you!

Sep 25 2009 6:10PM
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meggles
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To the OP: I have a lot of respect for you. You're really mature for being so young and that's going to be a major advantage for you with working and shit in the next few years. You're handling this better than a lot of the rest of us would. Good luck man, seriously, keep us updated!

Also, THANK YOU ROWEN. That fuck does not belong here.
Who are YOU, NESblowjob??? OH! That's right! A fucking DICK.
Sep 27 2009 10:03PM
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SteezyOhio
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^ good bump, time for the weekend away update.
Sep 27 2009 10:04PM
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ben_southworth
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you're an idiot.
first, you don't get addicted to hallucinogenics or e.
you're body NEVER physically craves them, which is what an addiction to opiates is.
second, speed blows. I mean, strictly speaking for myself, that is the last drug i would wanna get addicted to.
and third, they don't try to get addicted to opiates.
they do it once, then again and a little more until they cant stop.
thats like asking someone with AIDS why the fuck they got AIDS.

Sep 27 2009 11:56PM
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Elijah.
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This.

This is such an intense thread, I'm glad all the NS members can pool together (-the bullshit) and collectively help this kid. Shows a community.
Sep 28 2009 1:13AM
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zagfan5
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bitch comment. GTFO
Sep 28 2009 1:33AM
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MEGAZORD
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Leave it alone.  Fentanyl is super expensive.  You getting rid of that patch may get him murdered.
Sep 28 2009 2:05AM
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EastCoast315
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I feel it dude
Ive gotten great vibes from almost everybody
Sep 28 2009 6:34AM
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BC.
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Go to the police, hes not the sort of man that should be in your brother or your life anyways.
Sep 28 2009 12:51PM
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Mr.Panda
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dont forget to update us man, this shit is pretty fucking scary.
Sep 28 2009 1:01PM
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MrYeates
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your handeling this very well my friend
its good your thinking it all out before making a any stupid decisions
get that step dad outta there and keep YOUR family safe.
Sep 28 2009 1:09PM
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