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tinkytwinky
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BERFORE you read this, please know this is not a rant and i am not a homophobe.

I liv in an  small town of 12,000 maybe. Chicagos gay pride march was just a few week ago (i went downtown to watch it), a few months before that i saw my first openly gay couple in my town (2 men kissing on the side of the road) i didnt really care, i thought it was a little wierd but i kept walking. but after that iver seen more and more men and women interacting in sensual ways that can non-other be described as homo-sexual. Now there is a gay bar on our main street, and i keep on seeing more and more gays everywhere, its not a bad thing, just different. the thing i dont get is i live in a biggeted town of people who jack off to notredame foot ball games, so why here? is this happening anywhere else?

Jul 11 2009 1:14PM
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J.D.
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Oh we got it: you're a homophobe AND sexist. If you have anything to say about the general tendencies of blacks or jews, you might be able to pick up the triple crown.
Jul 14 2009 11:06PM
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Arabian.
Posts: 9632 - Karma: 54

And women shouldn't vote cuz they have no place in politics.

WTF is this, the 1800's??? C'mon man. You're better than that. We live in a society of equals. No one trait is unique to any gender anymore. Even tits.

Jul 14 2009 11:06PM
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Calvin.
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I don't really like you drew. saying that women are generally more nurturing is not stereotyping women. a stereotype would be saying "all women are always nurturing and there are none that are unlike the others." calm down and stop trying to label me as a stereotyper
Jul 14 2009 11:08PM
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Arabian.
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He said as he told us that men are the breadmakers, women are the nurturers and gays marrying will be the downfall of society....
Jul 14 2009 11:10PM
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Calvin.
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yeah man those were my exact words! you're good.
Jul 14 2009 11:11PM
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J.D.
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Main Entry: 2stereotype
Function: noun
: something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : an often oversimplified or biasedmental picture held to characterize the typical individual of a group —ste·reo·typ·i·cal /"ster-E-&-'tip-i




... Glad we could help you learn a new word today.
Jul 14 2009 11:17PM
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Arabian.
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"I think that it would degrade the quality of families","I really do believe that children need both a male and a female parent" - Gays marrying would degrade families

"Their children would grow up having many of the same problems that affect kids with divorced parents. These problems would work their way up in society, eventually causing bigger problems" - Straight ignorance and descrimination.

"Men bring things like security and drive" - breadmaker

"Women bring things like nurture and stability" - nurterer

"I think that same sex marriage would negatively affect society. I think that it would degrade the quality of families" - Gays will destroy us all.

Jul 14 2009 11:18PM
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Frank_Spinatra
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Here in Queenstown, New Zealand they have "Gay Ski Week" coming up in a couple of weeks...I really dont know what to expect from that at all, maybe ass-less ski pants?? Some how that seems like too much of a risk though...
Jul 15 2009 12:34AM
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Kale
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yes sir, indeed you have. and you've saved me and lot of other people the trouble of posting all the nesccary things that you did, so thank you for that +K
Jul 15 2009 12:38AM
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neutralzombie
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BERFORE you read this, please know this is not a rant and i am not a racist.

I liv in an small town of 12,000 maybe. Chicagos chinese new year [arade was just a few week ago (i went downtown to watch it), a few months before that i saw my first openly asian couple in my town (2 japs kissing on the side of the road) i didnt really care, i thought it was a little wierd but i kept walking. but after that iver seen more and more men and women interacting in sensual ways that can non-other be described as the asian invasion Now there is a sushi bar on our main street, and i keep on seeing more and more asians everywhere, its not a bad thing, just different. the thing i dont get is i live in a biggeted town of people who jack off to notredame foot ball games, so why here? is this happening anywhere else?


WHO

CARES?

is this a serious question? seriously. we have a gay spa, and gay gyms, and a village, and bars, and restaurants, and websites, and weddings. there are bigots everywhere, and gay people everywhere too. who would've thought.

Jul 15 2009 12:41AM
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J.D.
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You're expecting a lot if you're expecting coherence from someone who can't spell "Jennifer".
Jul 15 2009 1:46AM
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Ben.
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aka..... SEXISM. i dont care if you mean generally or all the time. the fact of the matter is, two men, or two women, can do just as good a job parenting as two opposite sex parents. they can also do just as poorly. it has nothing to do with their sex, it has to do with their parenting ability
Jul 15 2009 2:01AM
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Pee_and_Ski
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are stereotypes wrong? what if the fit the traits of a majority of the group? I can say that Irish people drink, that is a stereotype. I'm not talking Irish Americans im talking about the Irish.

so to the stereotype you are referring to about what the different sexes bring to a relationship, i would call it accurate. When you have a problem and the worlds going down the tubs who do a majority of people run to mom or dad. Dad if the person wants to be saved and mom in the person wants stability.

Jul 15 2009 2:13AM
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Arabian.
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Fucking discussions need an age lock I swear. Stereotypes are fine. They are a basic and integral part of our instinctual makeup. Problems begin when we ACT upon prejudices and stereotypes, not having them. No one is the same. Stop generalizing you goddamn little kid.
Jul 15 2009 2:32AM
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Ben.
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again MAJORITY. proving that in reality, either can be possible.


jesus tittyfucking christ....
Jul 15 2009 3:26AM
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r0dubs
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i lol'd
Jul 15 2009 3:27AM
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grown-ninja
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i know this sounds so incrediably ingorant and homophobic (im not, i promise im just saying this for anguments sake) but thats a form of segrigation right there, if you want to be treated equal, in a way you have to asimilate to the culture you live in, this almost mirrors affirmative acticion, and is very hipicritical, god for bid i made a straight bar, or whites only spa, its like we are regressing back in time a half century
Jul 15 2009 9:03AM
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neutralzombie
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i thought that way too for a while, i wondered why they did it. but you know, the difference is gay people were murdered before, they were tortured and simply weren't allowed to exist.

having your own community is no different from anyone else. they just want a place to meet each other and it's not like they go to separate schools and etc. no one stops straight people from going into the village, eating their food, buying their clothes, and going to their clubs. i've been to a gay club and no one cares and everyone has a super awesome time, and i swear i never had more fun.
everyone's so serious in straight people everything. they just love life and that's admirable.

aside from that, my statement about the asian thing was just to prove how in another context this thread would sound a little ridiculous, and i wanted to share how ridiculous the initial part of the thread looked to me.

and a note to the mod who decided to make a joke: your job isn't to treat people like shit. and i'm pretty sure it's your job to make sure people don't treat me like shit, and even treat me lesser because i have a pink name. by the way, i know how to fully spell my three full names consisting of 27 syllables.
Jul 15 2009 11:31AM
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kepler.
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And this is why I don't like you.
Jul 15 2009 11:33AM
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Ben.
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because its not a gays only bar dude..... its just one with MOSTLY gays in it. just like in other neighborhoods there are bars filled with mostly one race or another, or in MOST bars, mostly straight people. straight dudes can go into a gay bar, as can women, its not like they turn you away at the door.
Jul 15 2009 11:49AM
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neutralzombie
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i know i come off as a lame square hard ass. but i see guidelines, and i understand them.
Jul 15 2009 1:06PM
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grown-ninja
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ok...im writing on NS where the average age is someone who hasnt graduated highschool, fast, and oftern times not going back to check my work (mainly becasue im at work) , im not going to proof read/edit this like i did my thesis by any means, so i spelt a few words wrong, kill me
Jul 15 2009 1:13PM
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neutralzombie
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i spell check my words, it underlines my typos in red.
Jul 15 2009 1:15PM
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grown-ninja
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my computer at work doesnt, im not sure if it does at home, id assume so
Jul 15 2009 1:17PM
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AskAGaySkier
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We're even invading NS. Holy Shit.

Actually, this is an alias. I am gay. I've been on NS for years. Some of you know me. You may think it's cowardly to pick an alias as opposed to using my real name. I agree. But I have two reasons for doing this. First, I am an Orange Name (CLAIM!). Since they made me orange, it's made me realize what I say on NS represents me professionally and the companies I work with. I want the freedom to act without fear of hurting any of those people. Also, I can always make the decision to delete this account but I can't go back in the closet. Cowardly, but this is a first step.

I've recently come to the decision that homophobia and ignorance on NS are partially the result of me doing a really poor job of letting you know I exist. So I feel the need to change that, but this is actually the first time I've ever done anything to represent the gay community, so I have no idea what I am doing.

I really don't hate the people who say "Marriage is between a man and a woman" or "Queers are weird-ass motherfuckers that freak me out." Actually, I take responsibility. It's easy to say "Gays are freaks of nature and shouldn't get married," when you don't know any. I think I said the same thing when I had a girlfriend and was in denial of the obvious. It was getting know gays that changed my mind and allowed me to accept who I was. Perhaps the reason gays are popping up everywhere is that Prop 8 has made us realize that the only way we're going get the rights we've been forbidden is to make the general public more aware of who is being hurt by these laws--especially gays like me who don't fit any of the stereotypes.

To Drew. and all those members who have spoken in our defense, I can't say how much I appreciate it. You've spent more time and more energy fighting ignorance than I have. It's because of you that I feel the need to say something. I know I am not the only active gay member on here. There are probably quite a few, but it's scary to be out of the closet. Unfortunately, we need your help changing people's minds. Thanks for making NS a place we feel welcome.
Jul 15 2009 1:37PM
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J.D.
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^You might have just killed the thread by suddenly injecting a dose of sanity and good sense into what was previously stupidity and chaos, but good post.
Jul 15 2009 1:52PM
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grown-ninja
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you cant nock someone for standing up for what they believe in and being a strong person, i guess all there is to say is congradulations to this "mystery person"
Jul 15 2009 2:07PM
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AskAGaySkier
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Sorry to ruin all the fun. I should know better than to make sense when I post in NSG. :)
Jul 15 2009 2:13PM
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tinkytwinky
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WHOA! DREAM BIG!
Jul 15 2009 3:29PM
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Vikingskier
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I am from Southern California and i hate it everyone is so liberal and too pro gay   i dont hate gay people but i dont like their lifestyle and i supported yes on prop 8   The way i look at it gays are able to have legal partnership which gives the same benefits as being married  so i think they need to stiop crying  grow a pair a move out of the california

Jul 15 2009 4:55PM
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MatRich
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imagine a gay mormon!!
Jul 15 2009 5:26PM
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Arabian.
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lol. "I don't hate gays, I just don't ever want them to find love or be happy and they should move the fuck out of my state."

You homophobes have really perverse logic.

Can we just stop this thread now? To many little kids posting and not enough thought.

Jul 15 2009 5:30PM
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J.D.
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You know, I'm not racist, but I really think all the blacks should just go and live on an island somewhere. I really don't like their generally held characteristics, like crime and odd speech patterns. I'm not racist though!
Jul 15 2009 5:33PM
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Freeheel4real
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I think we should just discriminate against everyone equally - mexicans and gays. That way everyone is happy
Jul 15 2009 5:40PM
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AskAGaySkier
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Ugh.  I would ignore this post except I think this is a common misconception.

If I were to get "civil unioned" or "domestic partnershipped," the "same benefits" I would receive are from the state.  Thanks to DOMA, I would NOT receive FEDERAL benefits from the US Government or have my union recognized in most other states.

This is from a quick google search for the rights I wouldn't get in CA.  This is why this is more than a semantic issue.

According to a report given to the Office of the General Counsel of the U.S. General Accounting Office, here are a few of the 1,138 benefits the United States government provides to legally married couples:

    Access to Military Stores
    Assumption of Spouse’s Pension
    Bereavement Leave
    Immigration
    Insurance Breaks
    Medical Decisions on Behalf of Partner
    Sick Leave to Care for Partner
    Social Security Survivor Benefits
    Sick Leave to Care for Partner
    Tax Breaks
    Veteran’s Discounts
    Visitation of Partner in Hospital or Prison


Jul 15 2009 5:55PM
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Arabian.
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Exactly. Seperate, and definitely not equal, is the point. Marriage is not so much a religious as a legal institution today. That's over 1,100 rights that come with the marriage that we're trying to get. To ban gay marriage is to doom hundreds of thousands of couples across the board, simulataneously endangering our welfare and destroying our Inalienable rights.

When a partner cannot even enter a hospital to care for his/her loved one, something is wrong.

Jul 15 2009 6:07PM
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ThaLorax
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The ignorance of this thread is making me sick.  How can some of you honestly think less of a person because of the gender they are attracted to?
Jul 15 2009 8:06PM
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ontwosticks
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I kind of want to, but I'm not going to make a long post in here because i think Drew, JD, and a few others have done a wonderful job of presenting well thought out and reasonable arguments. So as stated earlier, there is a big difference in civil union and marriage and the gay community is not asking for access to church marriages, just marriage rights, which everyone deserves.
So basically:
Drew, JD, AskAGaySkier...keep it up and you might actually inspire a little intelligent thought in NSG
Jul 15 2009 8:33PM
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J.D.
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^No kidding. We did a much better job of promoting intelligent discussion in 2004 during Bush/Kerry and it doesn't seem to have done much for NSG circa 2009. I'm not exactly holding my breath.
Jul 15 2009 8:55PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I exhaled a long time ago.
Jul 15 2009 9:12PM
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Arabian.
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Now now. The children are our future. The more we slap them into shape the better. Keep reiterating and eventual it will sink in or become habit.
Jul 15 2009 9:42PM
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Ben.
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FML
Jul 15 2009 9:53PM
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Arabian.
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FML + facepalm.jpg
Jul 15 2009 10:02PM
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OrangeName
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why?
Jul 15 2009 10:12PM
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Tasche
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Things I don't get about gays.

1) I get it your gay, if you are born gay why are you running through the streets in a rainbow thong talking with a lisp? I don't care if you are a half chimp heroine addict, that is weird behavior and I will judge you. Maybe if you act like you have a brain your cause would gain some ground.

2) It is weird when straight people make out in public and other people are around. I don't really give a shit but don't get up in peoples faces if they ask you to stop.

3) I am going to keep using the word gay in my daily speech to describe lame things. Don't ask me to change who I am you intolerant ass holes.

There are more and I will probably get wrecked for this... Also I didn't read any of the posts so I guess all of this could have already come up....
Jul 15 2009 10:23PM
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Arabian.
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1) Visible minorities are not representative of the rest of the demographic. If I ever act like that please kill me. Ground gained.

2) It's only wierd if they're ugly. Johnny Depp and Heath Ledger. Congrats, you're now gay.

3) You better not be defined by an insensitive word you use describe lame things that's shallow as fuck. Also, I'm not descriminating against you, I'm descrinimating against your word.

Jul 15 2009 10:30PM
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Tasche
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touche good rebuttal.

I am just against a nanny state where you have to be PC all the time. I think all drugs should be legalized and you are going to offend someone with just about anything you say so get over it. But I will try to be more understanding.
Jul 15 2009 10:39PM
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Arabian.
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Worked for Portugal. Google it adn you'll find that the drug use numbers decreased across the board in every category when Portugal legalized err'thang.

But when it comes to offending people, I believe that we should look down upon it more as a society, rather than for fear of punishment at the hands of our "justice system". I swear if we make it harder to sue over shit like this, people will grow thicker skins again.

Jul 15 2009 10:44PM
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ThaLorax
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lol, what does legalizing drugs have to do with the rights of a person?
Jul 15 2009 11:50PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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Yeah, and we should round up all of the Jews and put them on an island too. Wait a second....maybe someone already tried that...
Jul 16 2009 9:27AM
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