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First Skate Edit of the Year

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eli112233
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBdlwCjOd6I

critique!
May 30 2009 8:49PM
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thisandthatfilms
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that was pretty ill dude... what was the song?

all the shots were pretty well filmed, some of the fisheye shots were a little shakey but what are you gonna do. the colors were nice and most of the shots were exposed really we. (just watch the dust or w.e on your lens when you are shootin into the sun) the doubles part at the end was pretty sick, would have been nice to see some more of that...

nice video in all though
May 30 2009 9:18PM
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.jr
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turn off your o.i.s. while filming fisheye
color correct
make quicker cuts
May 30 2009 9:32PM
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connoroh
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nah. Turn of ois yeah, but the colours were really nice that day. Editing was ok.
May 30 2009 11:39PM
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Six.0.Tree-ski
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Song is Remember Me by Cunninlynguists
May 30 2009 11:47PM
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eli112233
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thanks guys i appreciate it, yeah i forgot to turn of steady shot for those 2 clips, and the shutter was messed up on one clip. As far as color correcting, i just added a little bit of saturation because im still getting used to it and all. Subsribe! Because there are more videos to come!
May 30 2009 11:50PM
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Willard
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song was great for that edit and the doubles was cool good job
May 30 2009 11:52PM
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eheath
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Use your own songs.

Stop filming with a fisheye it looks terrible. You did one dope ass shot of a flat rail kind of follow next to him slowly, thats that bomb shit, fuck fisheyes.
May 30 2009 11:53PM
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pianoman
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well, every skateboarder in the world will disagree with you......
May 31 2009 12:23AM
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.jr
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then they unknowingly just agreed with him.
May 31 2009 12:24AM
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eheath
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I don't care, shit is so fucking shitty looking. Fuck fish eyes, learn how to actually film.
May 31 2009 5:29AM
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eli112233
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Yeah, but fisheyes are kind of what you use for skateboarding, it always has been, the following experience..idk how to put it. ill try more long lens though, i agree i dont like a super big amount of fisheye.
May 31 2009 10:11AM
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Peter.
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filming was a little bit shaky, but other then that, sick edit
May 31 2009 10:26PM
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eli112233
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thanks, im in the process of making another.
May 31 2009 11:17PM
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FMeissner
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Are you kidding right now?
May 31 2009 11:29PM
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eheath
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By own, i meant original use, not what other people have used.
May 31 2009 11:51PM
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Peter.
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what edit was this song used in?
Jun 1 2009 10:00AM
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Willard
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pretty shure 4bi9 used it in a edit or the dvd bonus
Jun 1 2009 2:33PM
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thisandthatfilms
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think about it this way.... the only way you can use a song that NOBODY has used, is if you made it. somewhere down the line the song has been used
Jun 1 2009 3:32PM
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FMeissner
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Oh, okay.  Well, maybe he hadn't seen that song used before?
Jun 1 2009 6:44PM
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.jr
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nope
Jun 1 2009 7:57PM
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josh.
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every single cinematographer would disagree with you, but what do they know about film making?
Jun 1 2009 8:18PM
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FMeissner
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Any good cinematographer would NOT disagree with them, because a good cinematographer would realize that it's just a different style, even if they themselves don't find it effective.
Jun 1 2009 10:57PM
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eheath
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That is such an incorrect statement. ALOT of people use new songs, its not that hard to find.
Jun 1 2009 11:44PM
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josh.
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pizza's down a green slope is also a style of skiing but you don't hold it equal to switch 10's.
Jun 2 2009 12:32AM
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pianoman
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instead of using useless analogies that don't apply, why don't you realize that pretty much every skate film that has ever been made (yes, even professional big-name brand movies, who would've thought!) uses fisheye...sooo explain what a mainstream cinematographer's view has to do with skate filming, and why you think they'd have that sort of input on a skate film, which has nothing to do with their line of work. in fact there are other reasons why fisheye is useful (i.e. making things look bigger, keeping the skater in the frame during followcams, etc.). my honest opinion is that fisheye looks bad for skiing, so i can see where eheath gets his opinion but this is skateboarding, not skiing.
Jun 2 2009 10:32AM
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ILoveOhio
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Skateboard filmers are too lazy to work for a properly composed and framed shot most of the time.

How does it look good to have fucking vig infront of your lense?  Fisheyes have their place....that place is not much. 

Anyways my critiques.

-stop going for that "Gold3n VX T1nt!
-white balance off white, and white balance as much as possible.  if your lighting changes then it's time to white balance again.



Jun 2 2009 3:12PM
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ILoveOhio
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Ok so I re weatched and your colors are all over the place.  Some shots are super golden and over saturated and then others look good.  Just try to be consistent with your settings and keep filming because it was a fun watch!
Jun 2 2009 3:16PM
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josh.
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making a film is  making a film, you still have to compose and think about the shot, but skate filmers seem to think that a fisheye lets them get away with not having to do all this, and insted just expose white balance and shoot. and if every skate film is doing this dont you think its time for something new, like actually thinking your shots through?
Jun 2 2009 8:15PM
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SlickRick.
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dude come onnn. i honestly have never heard that song and its not played at alll.

Jun 2 2009 10:26PM
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eli112233
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IHateOhio, i understand what you mean about the colors, yes it was my first edit using this camera and lens, so please relax a little about that. Also, skateboarding filming standard is a vx1000 with a mk1 fish eye, and yes they know how to compose a shot, watch some descent filming and you will understand, so stop assuming...
Jun 3 2009 9:02PM
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eli112233
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oh and i know what white balance is and how to white balance, and im going to stop adding a little saturation...
Jun 3 2009 9:04PM
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josh.
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when did you look at a sopt and think, "lets shoot at sunset and point the camera right at the sun, and use alot of vig"
Jun 3 2009 10:14PM
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ILoveOhio
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Sadly it is the "standard", but their standards are obviously low.

THIS should be the standard.

Eazy Dolly from Jason H on Vimeo.


Jun 3 2009 10:41PM
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eli112233
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not everyone likes dolly shot after dolly shot, it gets repetitive. And yeah the fisheye puts out its own vig. i dont choose to use vig, get some knowledge and get back to me honestly.
Jun 4 2009 4:43PM
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eheath
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You do choose to use it because you choose to use a fisheye. And vignetting makes me want to kill babies, shit sucks.
Jun 4 2009 8:11PM
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josh.
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what eheath said, theres a reason why you dont walk around with blinders on the corner of your eyes.
Jun 5 2009 12:45AM
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B-Wald
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fisheye w/o vignette? is that legit?

i dont get why there's all the hate on fisheyes. if you're shooting a line, and you want to have a close follow on it, how else is the shot going to be wide enough to get everything you're going for? sure, composition, lighting, exposure, etc. are all important, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the shape of the lens. i agree that vignetting is ugly, but sometimes a really wide lens is necessary.
Jun 5 2009 10:39AM
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ILoveOhio
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How about a tripod?  nooooope.  too lazy eh?  I don't get what looks good about shakey freehand shots.

You choose to use "a super wide fisheye man!"  like most skaters do.  Yeah it's wide.  Yeah it's easy to fit the rider in frame.

Atleast use a fisheye with no VIG.


Jun 5 2009 2:54PM
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josh.
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you know how you get the whole rider in the frame.

step back
Jun 5 2009 8:50PM
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ILoveOhio
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A fisheye without VIG can be amazing, but that's a rare site.  It also should be used more than just pointing it up at the person.  So annoying.  Fisheyes have their place, but NOT in every shot.  VIG is unacceptable.  Why do you want some shit in front of your lense?!
Jun 5 2009 9:15PM
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eli112233
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i understand what youre saying man, i'll work on my shit.
Jun 5 2009 11:19PM
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