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In 1974 I was 8 years old and I idolized the hand full of guys that were starting to throw the mobius. That was a full twisting back flip which is basically what a D-spin is today. The first part of the Risky Flip is an oldschool mobius and then he throws another backflip. When guys started doing doubles back then, they usually didn't start spinning until the 2nd flip. They thought that gave the guy a little time to orient himself before he started rotating. The risky flip is the opposite; spin first flip, no spin on 2nd. Here's a clip from "A bit of madness", which was one of the coolest ski flicks I saw in the early 80's. It was edgier and way more progressive than the Warren Miller films. Frankie Bare was one of the elite freestyle guys back in the day. The sound's way off, which makes it like an old kung fu flick. LOL
I'm hoping Shawn Rohrbach can come up with some video from the early days of freestyle. It would be fun to compare what was going on back then with what's happening now. Those guys were the gangsta skiers of the day. That period of time has a lot in common with what's happening now.
Anyway, it's an oldschool history lesson for anyone interested. All the dubs on this thread are so sick. In the early 80's, this is the shit that was blowing people's minds.
Dude, you are really missing the point. Maybe it's my fault for throwing up that vid, but I did that because it was an example of what we thought was cool in the early 80's. The 70's freestyle movement was more pure than it is even today. There was virtually no money in it, no sponsors, no ussa. There was very little organization to it and the term aerialist wasn't even used. Guys would travel around to different comps, pretty much living out of their cars, or going by bus. It would make one of Parry and Wesson's road trips look luxurious.
If they busted their skis, they couldn't call up line and have them fedex some new ones. Some of the best skiers may have gotten free equipment, but most had to go with whatever deal they could get. If your K2's broke, you'd ski on heads if someone would give you a deal. Events happend, guys would push each other and cool shit was going down for the first time. This was uber thug. Back flips were big, Ed Lincoln did the first loop and guys were figuring out how to rotate inverted.
Grand prize to the winner was usually front row for the wet t-shirt contest, and little else. Later freestyle aerials took on a seperate identity, and it became much more structured. I have a lot of respect for the early freestylers. Looking back on what was going on back then gives me even more appreciation for what's happening now. Happy 4th!
i wasn't at all bashing what those guys were doing back in the day, i was just pointing out your comment about the comparisons between double flips then and now. i think skiing nowadays is walking a fine line with the question of 'what is too much'. is all this double flip hype bringing skiing back to where it used to be thirty years ago? and is that a bad thing? who knows.
why are these sick double variations not showing up in comps? it seems like all you see are kangs and dub 12's but nothing else.. is there any reason that different doubles aren't showing up in slope and big air?
It's because they're really hard, and few people can make them look steezy. If you'll notice, they're all flailing about in the videos in this thread, without grabs or anything.
