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dan.b
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if we land on someone who's standing in the landing and kill him are we considerated like a murderer? Cause there alway some kiddy on the landing at my hill and it piss me off...
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Dec 11 2003 11:16AM
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mystic
Posts: 497 - Karma: 10
it murder if you knew the dumbass was standing there and you went right at their head and purposely landed on the moron.

accident if the joey skied over there while you were hitting the lip or in the air
Dec 11 2003 11:17AM
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manus
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murder if you knew, manslaughter if you didn't

Dec 11 2003 11:20AM
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feezy
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Considering considerated isnt a word I would say you are guilty of murder. Other than that, you probably wouldnt even get charged unless a witness said you did it on purpose.


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Dec 11 2003 11:22AM
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dan.b
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Dec 11 2003 11:32AM
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TyM
Posts: 36 - Karma: 10
I was on the slope at Vail years ago when that worker hit and killed the old man skiing in front of him. He was charged with manslaughter. He was going about 55mph
Dec 11 2003 11:34AM
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switchskier88
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itd be manslaughter if u new he was there but wasnt trying to hit him, murder requires intent
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Dec 11 2003 11:59AM
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manus
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actually, murder does not always require intent. If you knew the kid was there, intentionally or not you still ended up killing him, it is still murder. Technically, in the US I believe it would be 2nd degree murder, reckless disregard for human life.

Dec 11 2003 12:06PM
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LineRoyalArmy
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I believe that in the skier responsibility code that it states that you aren’t suppose to stop where you can not be seen from above. So to me I would have to say it would be their fault, and that really no action would be taken against you, unless of course there was a reasonable belief that you knew of them being down there.
Dec 12 2003 2:21AM
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ElChapoTrapHaus
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it would be way hard to get a murder charge, or even a manslaughter charge. You would have to be a dumbass, most likely you would get reckless endagerment at the most if you had a lawyer that knew anything.



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Dec 12 2003 2:37AM
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thecoyote
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The case in Vail was he was skiing to fast to be able to stop safely to avoid obstacles, such as a person. As a new school skier, I would say the responsibility is on the 'victim' on the landing, but legally I would say it might fall into the hands of the jumper. There are always signs saying 'have someone spotting you jump' 'check the jump first'. Whether these would hold up in court to be able to be used against you, I dont know.

Prevention starts with education, I was on a CSIA course and the level 3 instructor stops us (a group of 12) on the landing of a jump not visible from above in the Whistler park. Unbelievable. No one said anything. Its ridiculous. A park is a dangerous place. Blackcomb has now gone the route of other big parks and fenced in thier big park, a smart move that keeps people who dont know better out, and the landings clear.
Dec 12 2003 4:36AM
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404404
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I have allmost taken my fareshare of peoples heads off, its kinda freakey when you doing corked or some thing and you see some one the landing.



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Dec 12 2003 6:56AM
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d-loc
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dont most parks ahve a code posted at the entrance?


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Dec 12 2003 8:52AM
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Dec 12 2003 9:03AM
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