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Doc NS, frostbite

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VTtreeskier
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So i bought myself a pair of dalbello rampages last year and was so stoked on them, most comfortable pair of boots id ever ridden. However, due to poor fitting, once the liner packed out at the end of the year they were too big. I lost both my big toe nails at the end of last year, already have purple toenails this year that i had to heat the paper clip to burn a hole and drain the blood. Of course, as the boots are too big, my feet have been freezing. I now came home from vail today to find the tip of one of my big toes purple and totally numb. Its not that big an area of the toe, but definitely frost bite. I just soaked my foot in hot water but don't know the chances of ever feeling that part of my toe again and whats going to happen now. Anyone had this problem before and got some advice? Should i go see the doc? Thanks for any help.
Dec 14 2008 9:22PM
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BigZero
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see a doc asap
Dec 14 2008 9:24PM
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VTtreeskier
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Yeah thats what i was figurin if it wasn't better in the morn, but i got finals tomorrow and i don't know if i'll have time to make it to the doc before tuesday
Dec 14 2008 9:27PM
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phishfood
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yeah dude hit up a doctor, and you probably need different boots if they're doing that.


thread jack question-

is it true what you said that you can permanent lose feeling if you get frostbite? cause i had new boots and a REALLY cold trip to quebec a few weeks ago, and since then i haven't really been able to feel the tips of my toes (like when i pinch them.) it doesn't hurt or anything so its not a big deal, but does anyone else have that? is it permanent?
Dec 14 2008 9:29PM
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MEGAZORD
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Go to a real doctor, not a bunch of 12yo kids on the internet.
Dec 14 2008 9:31PM
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VTtreeskier
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Good advice, i was more just wondering who else has had it and what happened for em

And i know i neeed new boots, im dying for a pair of full tilts for my narrow skinny low volume feet but i got no cash for em right now, im hoping to talk my parents into givin me a loan for a pair to pay off in the summer when i have a job again but im not too sure about it
Dec 14 2008 9:34PM
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Tinga
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webmd says to keep elevated to reduce swelling. put a bandage on it but don't let it rub. don't let it refreeze. keep it warm and drink warm nonalcoholic noncaffinated fluids.
Dec 14 2008 9:35PM
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HeathR
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when u get frost bite you should let it heat up slowly. Warming up quickly using hot water is not a good idea.
Dec 14 2008 9:36PM
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Balto
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i got frost bite 2 years ago on the tips of most of my fingers and have not felt a thing ever sense. be glad its a toe and not your fingers
Dec 14 2008 9:39PM
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-NY-STeeZE-
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best bet
Dec 14 2008 9:40PM
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Shpadoinkle
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You know the worst thing for frostbite is heat, right?
Dec 14 2008 9:41PM
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VTtreeskier
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Shit, i was just soakin in the water cuz my old man told me to, but the color is actually starting to come back a bit now
Dec 14 2008 9:45PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Go ahead and soak it in water, but don't use hot water. It does damage to your nerves.
Dec 14 2008 9:52PM
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VTtreeskier
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K thanks for the advice
Dec 14 2008 9:53PM
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TWoods
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if you ever get frostbite again, don't touch it or rub it either, that's also bad for it
Dec 14 2008 10:40PM
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.SimonB.
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get it checked out, gangrene is one fucked up thing you dont want to deal with
Dec 14 2008 10:46PM
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CFD
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The same thing happened to me, it bled for a while and got all better. They are fine now. It's probably a good idea to see a doc though
Dec 15 2008 6:07PM
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gnarrr
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i got it last week and still can't feel the tips of my toes. i put them in warm water when i got home after skiing and it is fucking painful thawing them out. just don't refreeze them or rub them.
Dec 18 2008 10:04PM
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Dr.NS
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IM HERE!!!

hmm... id have to say amputate

just warm up that shit, suck it up, remember your mitts next time
Dec 18 2008 10:08PM
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Dobies.
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Doctor
Dec 18 2008 10:08PM
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babujib
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naw dude ive had frostbite a few times, and the doctors said if you put it in hot water that it can shock the nerves so bad that you can permanently damage them easier, its better to put it in cool water. also your feeling can come back after a few hours but after that im not too sure good luck though
Dec 19 2008 12:30AM
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dilla_says_go
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probably should start drinking more pabst and stop whining like a girly girl
Dec 19 2008 1:17AM
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Evan_B.
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to my knowledge dalbello rampages should come with intuition (sp?) liners. these are special liners that if you heat them up they expand and get soft you jam them into your shell and jam your foot in there and leave them there until the liner is no longer warm and the liner will be molded to your foot perfectly... you can reheat and mold them up to around 8 times so you shouldnt have a reason to get new boots.... make sure to wear a toe cap under your socks to give your toes room to move and so they dont get permenantly molded in there.. good luck with the frostbite.
Dec 19 2008 2:05AM
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Shpadoinkle
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Exactly, thank you.
Dec 19 2008 8:58AM
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BdoubleU
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I'm curious...

how big are the boots on you now that your getting frostbite?

inch or more from your toes?


Dec 19 2008 11:25AM
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VTtreeskier
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Alright i didn't want to go to the doc, and looking back it was kinda pointless, but everyone was tellin me to so i did and heres what he had to say. I just about everything they would have wanted me to, it was a minor case as it was just the top of my big toe that went purple and lost feeling. You don't want to put it in hot water as that can harm the nerves but u do want to soak it in warm water. He told me to do this on a regular basis for a little while and that that should increase blood flow so i should get feeling back in a few weeks.
Dec 19 2008 9:18PM
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linesteeze
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Just as BAM!!!!
Dec 19 2008 9:20PM
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linesteeze
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Just ask BAM!!!!
Dec 19 2008 9:21PM
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linesteeze
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Just ask BAM!!!!
Dec 19 2008 9:21PM
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linesteeze
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^ holy 3 posts
Dec 19 2008 9:38PM
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mmallender.
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rampages come with a basic stock liner that has fur in the upper half
Dec 19 2008 9:42PM
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Evan_B.
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ok well maybe krypton rampages, i know the kryptons have them, cause i just got a pair.
Dec 19 2008 10:37PM
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Kevski
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2 year bump, very similar situation happened to me, no need to make my own thread with more questions.

It was -17 C at whistler yesterday, and I didn't realize I had my boots too tight and had cut off circulation until too late. Toes went numb within the first hour, didn't thaw until about an hour after I finished skiing (frozen for like 6-7 hours?). Right now, I still can't feel my little toe or the tip of my big toe, and my big toe has a black/blue area where the feeling is completely gone still. The rest of my toes are kinda tingly still. They're pretty swollen as well. The skin isn't white or stiff though. Sound like frostbite? Or just some mild nerve damage that should come back?
And I know, I should see a doc. But as skiers, I'm sure this has happened to quite a few of you, and nothing is better than firsthand experience. Good to know what kind of questions to ask the doc as well.
Nov 22 2010 12:37PM
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