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Beek21
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Just looking for tips on how to throw down some good nose/tail butters, never really messed around with them so any hints to get me started would be nice...
Dec 5 2008 3:55AM
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wh@t
Posts: 6204 - Karma: 52
welcome to newschoolers!

basically, you just have to get comfortable on your skis enough to the point where you can ski switch and regular proficiently. then you just have to learn how to throw your weight around to get you in the flex of the ski. theres no real technique that can be explained in 7 steps by Tony Hawk and Bucky Lasek, you just have to watch and learn.
Dec 5 2008 5:04AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Lean to the point of death and dont be afraid of the faceplant.
Dec 5 2008 5:30AM
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jedi.Jim
Posts: 1133 - Karma: 13
Like Rowen said, lean and commit to it. It takes more than you might think at first. Join the trick tip cult, there is a ton of information there.
Dec 5 2008 8:16AM
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Steazel
Posts: 553 - Karma: 16
Another thing to make butters easier when trying them for the first time is to make sure that you have a pretty soft ski, this makes it easier to get the flex down before moving on to a stiffer ski where you can get more energy out of it.
Dec 5 2008 8:27AM
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aliaslover
Posts: 12 - Karma: 10
stiff ski, lean back for nose lean forward for tail, lots of edge, not much experiance. thast the key now gtfo
Dec 5 2008 8:34AM
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pjbauer
Posts: 2145 - Karma: 480
just lean it like ya mean it
Dec 5 2008 11:22AM
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wh@t
Posts: 6204 - Karma: 52
yeah!
Dec 5 2008 11:46AM
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DaLiNeRiDEr21
Posts: 3687 - Karma: 39
LEAN WIT IT ROCK WIT IT
Dec 5 2008 11:51AM
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sstricky
Posts: 1876 - Karma: 111
YEAAA BOIII!!!
Dec 5 2008 12:23PM
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sdfjklioeur
Posts: 2082 - Karma: 114
i usually throw mine like a flatground cork. just find a roller and COMMIT.
Dec 5 2008 12:29PM
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dylansiggers
Posts: 1661 - Karma: 5,841
Ok heres what you do

1. turn your din down to 3
2. get a camera ready
3. do a 180 with all your weight foreward
4. Post on NS
5. + karma from me to you
Dec 5 2008 1:06PM
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yourthemannowdog
Posts: 4541 - Karma: 313
join trick tips cult
Dec 5 2008 2:54PM
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Motes
Posts: 1840 - Karma: 90

better boots help i had some old shitty boots and this year with my new boots i can aslo butter better

get the invaders

Dec 5 2008 3:06PM
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jibjames
Posts: 89 - Karma: 9
is it possibel to butter on a non center mounted ski?
Dec 5 2008 3:59PM
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sdfjklioeur
Posts: 2082 - Karma: 114
it is possible to butter anything as long as you commit. a softer ski will just flex a lot easier but i butter my -3cm mounted scratch bc's all the time and they work great.
Dec 5 2008 4:03PM
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Sewardo
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hmm well last time i buttered was when i was at my buds cabin i slid in the back door on my skis and buttered a roll and ate it and peaced..................... lols so not funny eh. 

welcome to ns!
 
for buttering you just want to throw your weight forward almost like you are tryin to lift just the backs of your skis up at the same time and then rotate a lil 180 im not very good at explaining them buttt thats the best i can do i guess. good luckkkkk, they are as fun as fuckkk when you learn them right
Dec 5 2008 4:05PM
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patrickstar
Posts: 486 - Karma: 20
it feels like when im skiing, Im the only one on the hill throwing any butters down, is it cause everyone one else is too lazy, i think they look rad
Dec 5 2008 4:06PM
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BennyV
Posts: 569 - Karma: 11
butters are so much fun, especially to 180 or 360 out off a lip. makes skiing the mountain more fun
Dec 5 2008 4:23PM
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Inbred_Redneck
Posts: 2776 - Karma: 28
Stiff boots work wonders too. I had some salomon shit boots with a flex of 55 or 65 and couldnt do shit with them. After i got some Impact 7s (80 flex) I could throw them pretty easily.
Dec 5 2008 4:46PM
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Eastcoastskier09
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jea
Dec 5 2008 4:55PM
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JonathonChandler
Posts: 905 - Karma: 423
you talk to the kid like he doesnt know how to ski hahah
Dec 5 2008 5:11PM
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PKalow
Posts: 254 - Karma: 11

I've got Chronics and I'm having a hard time getting them to flex enough for butters, are they stiffer skis or am I just doing something wrong?

Dec 5 2008 5:20PM
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Cuckoo
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How I learned is by faceplants!!!
Dec 5 2008 5:23PM
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eastside
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Dec 5 2008 5:33PM
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Aerozol
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Hey, that's what I ride!

Is it an older, softer model by any chance?
Not sure how easy to butter the new ones are
Dec 5 2008 5:54PM
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JDon
Posts: 282 - Karma: 15
It's kind of a matter of finding that sweet spot where you can flex and balance. Commiting is important too and i always flex my abs when i do them. I kind of throw my body like I do when going for a flat five but without popping and without the jump. That basically puts my shoulder down and forward so i can see and it also sets the rotations. this is obviously for nose butter 3s and 5s and what not. good luck!
Dec 5 2008 7:13PM
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sdfjklioeur
Posts: 2082 - Karma: 114
its the 06/07 bc

they might be alittle easier to butter since ive had so much use on them and theyre alittle worn but they can definitely butter pretty well, just not a really flexy butter.

heres a vid of a butter with them so you can see what i mean
Dec 5 2008 7:31PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
ha ha ha. 80 flex? Stiff? I hope you're joking. 80 flex is as soft as you can go if you're only skiing park. You want at least 100 if you're skiing outside of the park.
Dec 5 2008 7:48PM
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Inbred_Redneck
Posts: 2776 - Karma: 28
I ski in Iowa, i have no use dropping mad money on stiffass boots to ski out here.

I was just saying they DO make a difference. I was cheap and bought shitty boots last year, and i can def tell the difference with the new ones.
Dec 5 2008 7:58PM
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BigJew
Posts: 6974 - Karma: 79
Ok, I'll post something constructive now.

For a switch butter 3:

This is easier on a slight roller at first.

Come in switch to the roller and carve about 45 degrees and then go into a revert. As you're reverting pop a tiny bit to get your tips up and then throw your weight back. You should be on your tails skiing straight. You'll naturally want to keep rotating but if you do you'll catch your tails. Instead, pop of your tails and spin a bit less than a 180 so you land switch.

The hardest part here is figuring out just the right time and amount when you throw your weight back. Too much and you fall on your back or wheelie out of control and can't pop the last 180. Too little and you look stupid.
Dec 5 2008 8:24PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Posts: 954 - Karma: 208
hahahahahahaha
ppl would love you for that video
Dec 5 2008 11:23PM
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-dAvE-
Posts: 677 - Karma: 74
Dsrider was right and his idea shoudl be tried,
but another way to get them is to just mess around trying them on a very flat run and just lean forward and u kinda need to drop your shoulder and rotate to do a butter 180 and i think dropping your shoulder a bit helps because it makes u spin faster and keep pressure on your noses. but if your going to slow, droppign your shoulder wont work. jsut mess around a bit and you'll find what works for you.
Dec 6 2008 9:15AM
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Lemuel
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i learned how to do them on my invaders last year, what i did was do 180s just skiing down then i would start to just touch my tips on the snow when i did them. after i got comfortable with that, i would start to do the 180 but keep my tips on the ground, and eventually i would lean into them. i have chronics now and i can butter them. once you learn them on a soft ski you can do them on anything. and im light too, 5'10" 135 and riding 181 chronics.
Dec 6 2008 9:21AM
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CFD
Posts: 1009 - Karma: 197
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fK_k4cxduvU
Dec 6 2008 9:26AM
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wh@t
Posts: 6204 - Karma: 52
you never know man, hes a newb and he gave me no reason to think that he was already a proficient skier. but whatever.
Dec 6 2008 10:01AM
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-dAvE-
Posts: 677 - Karma: 74
Yea i started to actually understand and be able to butter on invaders. they're such soft skis, works really well, but like he said, just press ur tips against the ground when u do a 180 and eventually jsut put more pressure, that was a good trick to give him.
Dec 6 2008 10:19AM
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Dudesinpools
Posts: 745 - Karma: 15
sick butter 3
Dec 6 2008 7:51PM
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eastside
Posts: 1744 - Karma: 167
that guy doesn't have poles, which makes it a lot easier considering he used his hands to push himself back on axis.
Dec 7 2008 11:47AM
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sdfjklioeur
Posts: 2082 - Karma: 114
i know! what a jerk...
Dec 8 2008 12:06AM
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Jballz
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Dec 8 2008 12:16AM
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