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LOWER DRINKING AGE??!!

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woogity
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i just got this text from some one i dont know and it says this.

"call this number. 1-603-413-4131. its the petition for lowering the drinking age to 18"

i dont know if its a prank or something but i hope its legit.
i dont know if its legit or not. but should i call it?
has any one herd about this?

Aug 20 2008 8:49PM
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Grube
Posts: 962 - Karma: 14
yeah i think i saw something about it on the newspaper, but since i dont read the paper and only glanced at the headline i could be wrong.
Aug 20 2008 9:15PM
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Malcolm
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wait isnt the drinking age already 18? muhaha
Aug 20 2008 9:18PM
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jedi.Jim
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Do it.
Aug 20 2008 9:23PM
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zylstra
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trick ya
Aug 20 2008 9:23PM
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Vino
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lol its 18 here !!!
Aug 20 2008 9:31PM
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Mr_Papageorgio
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if it gets changed which will take years. i will already be 21
Aug 20 2008 9:34PM
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sirmurdah
Posts: 208 - Karma: 14
lol go to germany, best country on the face of the earth, drinking age = 16.
Aug 20 2008 9:46PM
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ryan.c
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exactly. and by then, i think ill think that it shouldnt be raised just so everyone else suffers like us. so i wouldnt vote for it
Aug 20 2008 10:02PM
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Microcosm
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I realized today that I have FOUR years until I can "legally" drink alcohol. Four years, that's a long ass time.  I never realized how ridiculously high the age is until I started to think about it.
Aug 20 2008 10:33PM
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VCharette
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but for real no one has fake id to buy alcohol, or just ask someone when they enter the liquor store to buy you some booze, come on be creative a bit! you gotta work for that booze, way more fun
Aug 20 2008 10:35PM
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Tasche
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Thats a bad attitude. I think that lowering the drinking age will really help with drinking and driving incidences and other alcohol problems with underage kids. It seams like every kid I know that has gotten in trouble got that way by trying to sneak around their parents.

At least lower the beer drinking age to 18.
Aug 20 2008 10:41PM
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GrassCutter86
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I agree completely, working for that booze is a lot more fun. I loved underage drinking, definitely a lot more exciting and you never knew when you were going to be able to drink. Unlike now where I can drink whenever I want, which sounds good, but gets old quick.

Don't rush it
Aug 20 2008 11:22PM
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nick@
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who cares just legalize weed
Aug 20 2008 11:46PM
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smooticus
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Yea someones bullshitting you
Aug 20 2008 11:49PM
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JonathonChandler
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it should be legit. mabye not though
Aug 21 2008 12:00AM
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mnick11
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dufe no it isnt true its a prank call
Aug 21 2008 12:12AM
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dr_phil
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haha vive le Québec .... anyways in Montreal, everyone starts going to bars at like 16 or so
Aug 21 2008 12:14AM
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ChanchoVelez.
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gay
Aug 21 2008 12:16AM
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N-John360
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Honestly, I don't know if the drinking age should be lowered. If it was, everyone aged 18-20 would go out and buy lots of alcohol, and more drinking and driving deaths would occur. People would go out every night, and be more induced to drink & drive. Also, an 18 year old is still in high school, and many would buy alcohol for the underclassman. I am NOT saying an 18-20 year old is not mature enough to drink. It should have always been 18, then there would be no problem. But if it is suddenly lowered, it would create many problems. Many a controlled environment for an 18-20 year old would work. (for example just at home). Maybe 19 would be better, since they would be out of high school. Also, the driving drunk limit for those under 21 should always be .00 instead of .08.
Aug 21 2008 12:25AM
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sick-as-aids
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uhh son, rome there is no drinking age. me and my sis rockd into the bars when i was 14, so legit.

its 18 where i am, i think its algood, lots of people want it up tho
Aug 21 2008 12:35AM
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Tasche
Posts: 5422 - Karma: 99
In some European countries if you are caught drinking and driving you lose your license forever.

But this is an issue that is up for debate. These are most likely not pranks.

To the best of my knowledge the US is the oldest drinking age country.

I just find it incredible that 18 you are expected to be able to manage finances, completely understand the laws, support your self, not to mention die for your country, but you cannot enjoy a beer.

Lower the drinking age.
Aug 21 2008 1:16AM
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woogity
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yeah thats called a HEY MISTER!!! hahaha.
Aug 21 2008 1:19AM
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Bulky
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Very bad idea. i have no problem with people under 21 getting an underage drinking ticket if they blow less then a .08 but why should we ruin a large part of there life by giving them a DUI.
Aug 21 2008 1:59AM
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skiingonskis
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18 = perfect
Aug 21 2008 2:12AM
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XtRemE11
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they should just take away the fucking drinking age. i hate drinking, mostly because literally every single person who drinks thinks they are some huge badass for doing it. you always see so many people at parties walking around like they are the shit and talking about how cool they are because they can drink liquid just like every other living thing on this planet. american kids (13-30 year olds) seem to always have this "look at me im shotgunning a beer, arent i crazy? look over here guys im so tough! everyone look at me!!" type of attitude. and its so gay.
this is the main reason why i dont drink, it can turn you into a complete tool. and it sucks cause everyone does it, if you dont drink constantly just to look cool, people think you are screwed up in the head. when i tell people i dont drink or smoke with a huge smile, people give me the wierdest looks. ive had people get pissed at me before for saying that im more happy not needing to be dummed down by alcohol and drugs to be happy.

just getting rid of the drinking age would most likely just make alcohol like any other beverage, i have a cousin who goes to school in europe, he says that nobody goes as crazy over alcohol like we do here, they still drink a bit, but they dont hammer down 20 beers so they can look cool to their friends then kill 5 people in a car accident. its more spread out over time, like 3 beers a day or something just because its a good beverage. european countries still have drinking ages, but they are usually very low and not enforced at all.

Aug 21 2008 3:54AM
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Arabian.
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Yeah, and slaves shouldn't have fought for personal freedoms because future generations should have been made to suffer like they did. Do you think? i might kill you.

Aug 21 2008 4:23AM
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tommihq
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Same in spain. It was sweet just sitting in the bars at the age of 16. Next year i can drink legally here too (The legal age is 18). And just like someone said above me no local really drank at all, it was just mostly the tourists who were getting drunk all the time, including me.

Aug 21 2008 6:53AM
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SKIDUBAIGUY
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Dont they drink wine in france as like kids? Whats the drinking age their?
Aug 21 2008 8:50AM
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TylerS
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Thats not the best comparison to use. Slavery was taking away freedom from black people. That was a much bigger issue than a drinking age that should be lowered by 3 years. Honestly, who cares? Its just a beverage.
Aug 21 2008 9:32AM
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=Worf=
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its called the amethyst initiatiive
http://www.amethystinitiative.org/
already a thread on it but it is a bunch of college presidents trying to get the drinking age lowered. 
Aug 21 2008 11:13AM
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ride-rider
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Ya its for real i think, there was somthing on tv about it.
Aug 21 2008 11:32AM
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2+2=5
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its pretty obvious most of the people who sign are under 21, incredibly biased
Aug 21 2008 11:58AM
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ride-rider
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So true.
Aug 21 2008 12:13PM
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jo-shmo
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Where i come from its 18.


And im 18 soon! Im gonna be all grown up. Yay.
Aug 21 2008 12:16PM
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leckett1
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19 here and it doesn't bother me because I'm 19
Aug 21 2008 12:26PM
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woogity
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first of all, your totally wrong about how everyone thinks that they are "huge  badass" and walking around like they are "the shit" and how cool they are because they can "drink liquid"
youre a fucking idiot kid. yeah there are SOME kids like that. everyone i party with or in your terms think "were huge badasses" or "the shit" are not what you say everyone is. everyone i party with are fucking CHILL. we do it to have FUN. not to think were "huge badasses." yeah we may look like fools at sometime in the party but we all laugh at it in the end. shotgunning a beer is not to look "crazy" as you say. its a way to have fun drinking with your friends, a little competition, and drink faster. oh yeah it could turn me into a complete tool. fuck you. i drink often and i still get good grades in school. your stupid kid. we dont drink just to look cool. we drink to have fun and look back on the past and joke about it.

good for you kid. you dont drink or smoke!! yay!! youre probably fucking straight edge.
take some risk in your life goody good fag.

you have a cousin in europe. cool. i have been to europe probably more times than you have been out of your state. the reason they dont go crazy is because they dont care as much as we do in the states. the drinking age in amsterdam is fucking 16 years old. do you know when you get your drivers license there? you get it when your 18. i go to holland every fucking year cuz i have family there. i would know what its like drinking there.

and what the fuck are you talking about killing 5 people in a car crash. yeah that happens and im sorry to say it but honestly more parties happen with kids getting drunk then actually killing someone. everyone i party with ALLWAYS makes sure were good to drive home. never under the influence. or the host will take our keys to our cars from us and make us spend the night at his or her place.

you have it totally wrong.
Aug 21 2008 4:25PM
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skiRay
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my dad and i both think that the drinking age should be 18 and the driving age should be 19. think about it. its safer.
Aug 21 2008 4:29PM
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SteezyasPie
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not true, i was there on an exchange, anyone was allowed to drink, but you have to be 16 to buy beer/wine and 18 for hard alcohol, like for instance my exchange partners brother was 12 and drank all the time
Aug 21 2008 8:03PM
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soulJAHboi
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^ well said woogity, and Xtreme11, your a fucking tool. I drink cuz it's fun, and not to act like a badass. How old are you anyway
Aug 21 2008 8:30PM
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horner
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I doubt you'll ever see 18 again in the U.S.  There are to many dumb ass kids who don't know how to drink responsibly.  Plus, I'm fairly close to turning 21 and I'd hate to see the drinking age lowered at this point.  I think every other 20+ year old would agree. 
Aug 21 2008 8:35PM
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Sky.
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18 would be wonderful
Aug 21 2008 10:34PM
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XtRemE11
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maybe its the town i live in but seriously like 90% of the kids are like that, walking around with their shirts off and flat billed hats acting all crazy and shit. im fine with the people who just drink because they actually like it, but it seems like most people's reason is just to look cool.
and as for being straight edge? no, i just dont drink or smoke at all cause i dont need to be dumbed down to be happy with my life.
and drinking is taking a risk? really? see this is half of what i hate about kids that drink a shit ton, just because you dont drink they suddenly think you are all stuck up and "goody good" and you wont do anything "risky" really its all the drinkers who are stuck up, they think that they are so awesome cause they do something every other fucking kid does. and they get all butt hurt when someone says they dont like to drink.
i get soooo much shit from my friends for not drinking i hear shit like "why cant you just enjoy life?" "try something new" "stop being such a pussy" etc... yet they hardly ever go outside, they hardly ever wanna ski or do anything fun cause they want to just sit there all day and drink to be drunk shit i probably spend like 10 hours every day outside doing something and i love it, it just is alot more appealing to me. sorry but i just dont see how doing nothing but sitting around being drunk every day is "enjoying life" or "taking risks" actually i find it extremely depressing. and it really is, the friends of mine who are like that really seem super depressed. im pleased with my life how it is, and i love being that way, but still it seems to piss people off.

and yeah you may be responsible about driving i was never talking about YOU, im talking about the average kid. there were 4 seperate recks that resulted in deaths last year as a result of alcohol. i know like 8 kids at my school that got dui's and thats just what i know of.

so yeah im not talking about you specifically or anything, im just saying i know so many people who have gotten so completely gay because of drinking. i dont drink because i hate the taste of alcohol, i hate the feeling of being drunk, ive tried it, and im knocking it. i guess i could be just like every other kid and drink only because it will make me look cool, but fuck that.
and fuck people who drink and drive X10000000000.





Aug 22 2008 2:49AM
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woogity
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im 18.
Aug 22 2008 2:59AM
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scandy101
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i agree, im kinda sick of people who drink a bunch. it really brings out the "tool" as you said in them. i used to drink but it just makes me feel like shit and like you said, i also like to do other things and get outside. and since i quit drinking, i have been doing alot more of that lately and ive been alot more happy in general
Aug 22 2008 3:05AM
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woogity
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k i understand what you are saying now. but where do you live? cuz like 0% of the kids around where i live do not act/wear clothes like you describe. i have never seen that at a party or anything around where i live. but honestly yes there is kids who do it to be cool. but most of them dont. but you say you hate kids who drink a ton. i drink alot but i dont drink every single day. that would be way fucking crazy.

but i dont see how we are stuck up. yeah we'll get bummed if you dont drink cuz thats one less person to have a good experience with. but were not going to totally like flip out or not be friends with that person who doesnt drink. maybe your friends are just ass holes. who knows.

you say that everyone who drinks hardly goes out side. that is not true. not one bit. maybe with your friends but not everyone. a friend i party with is like a top up hill runner. she goes hiking every single day. and i think does a run up the mountain 3 times a week. its the same with her boy friend. but he doesnt compete. she gets like top 3 almost every time she races. she is going to nationals. and yet she still gets shit faced when we party. ha. so basically the only time we party is at night cuz thats when we do nothing. so what im guessing is that youre judging everyone by what your friends do, say, and what the people around you do and act. and again with the DUIs at your school. those are kids at your area. so youre judging again. and then you say you know many people who have gotten gay because of drinking. again that is the people you know. judging.

but you keep thinking that we drink to look cool. not everyone does. most people dont. again we drink for fun, memories and laughs.

but yes. fuck people who drink and drive.




Aug 22 2008 3:37AM
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Mezmerize19
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flashy little smile
kiss more ass like you do
i'd rather be called nuts
than to be a 'yaaa dude'
you strut down the hall
you think you're the shit
yes i know you drink beer
but stop talking 'bout it
the party was sweet
i got so fucked up
you should've been there
i crashed my new truck
i got with this girl
yeah man she was hot
but i lost my white hat
after we smoked too much pot

those kids suck, yeah they're fucking beat
those kids suck, nah nah not me
those kids suck, yeah check emcee
those kids suck, yeah those kids suck

your mom dresses you
so your dad will approve
you've already mastered
his shit attitude
but don't even think
you won't get his gut
you'll be more than stupid
hey cool guy good luck

those kids suck, yeah they're fucking beat
those kids suck, nah nah not me
those kids suck, check it out emcee
those kids suck, yeah those kids suc
Aug 22 2008 3:42AM
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Meh42
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Aug 22 2008 5:21AM
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Dylan_
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i heard about this somewher, who knows if its true
Aug 22 2008 7:30AM
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XtRemE11
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my town is extremely trendy, there are like 4 highschools here and each one has a different type of person that goes there, one is full of rednecks, one full of jocks, one with actual normal chill people, and one with all the extremely trendy people, and i live on the side of town thats full of jocks and trendy people, and when you combine those, you get some pretty gay stuff. so at parties you see a combo of jocks with their shirts off stairing at their muscles, and people who are just there to be cool, because thats what trendy people do. and then every now and then we get some hicks trying to fight everyone, and if we are lucky we get the normal people from the other school who actually make parties tollerable.
and i was saying people are stuck up cause they get so pissed when you dont drink, some people understand it and could care less, but ive had some people actually get pretty angry when i say i dont drink.

i know there are people out there that drink just cause they like it, unfortunatly most those people are like over 40. but there are some kids that actually do just like it, and dont get hammered all the time so they can brag the next day about how much they were throwing up the night before, so they look "daring"

i will actually drink if i like it, i went to mexico last year and i was drinking every day, not cause i wanted to get completely hammered, but just cause all pina colada's and shit are very good. id average like 4 drinks a day and i liked it.
but thats the problem, nobody has parties with pina colada, and atleast the people i know call me a pussy cause stuff like that is a "girl drink" which gets back to the tough guy, badass image alot of people try to make for themselves for drinking.

Aug 22 2008 10:49AM
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