way sick. for being centered they can really ski the whole mountain. like you can throw down some pretty hard carves or take them to up to high speeds. not as soft as people say, def stiffer than invaders. its acutally kinda hard for me to buter them, but they are way fun. super solid for the price and topsheet doesn't chip bad at all, especially compared to armadas. stable enough to hit big jumps and stuff for sure.
oh and im 5 10 150 lbs and on 178s and they are perfect