So its time for new binders and NS i need you're help

FKS are safe - 360 degree turntable heel, multidirectional release in the toe - (including vertical release in the 120) solid, strong, reliable amongst other things.

I've had good experience with the Rossi Scratch 140ti(14 DIN Axial 2) and always seem to release on the perfect timing.

What din range are you looking at? is 4-12 fine or are you super agressive and want something higher?

right sorry, guys. uhm the shop says i need to be at a 6 so a din of like 8 is fine. so yeah a din of 4-12. can ne one else tell me why fks are such good bindings or did the first guy sum it all up ?

Also look at Salomon STH12's or the older s914

are fks older or just really really hard to find ?

Not to threadjack...

But Simon,
Could you let me know how/why the 914's are so good? Im so used to the pivot/px heel, but always hear good things about the 916/916. And i can get em for cheap, so i want some more info.

Thanks
Victor

Well the 914's aren't THAT good - They are pretty much the same as the 912 but with a higher DIN 914. Fairly light - i'd honestly stay with Look/Rossi - more reliable with their release etc. One other downside is that the toe wings always need adjustment which can get annoying - overall I would rate px12/14's above s912/914

916's are a different story - fucking tanks.
Heaps of metal in them, steel heel plate, the older spherical toe design whcih I think was a great concept and a bit of a knee saver. Wider screw pattern than the FKS too.

Something like the FKS is probably a little better as a park binding, and only slightly heavier.

Whether you look at 916s or FKS155's you would get an amazing set of clamps either way - and there are only small differences, most people just prefer one over the other

Older, and not made any more
Can defnitely still be found though

I'd say Rossi will still indemnify the FKS range for another 5-10 years, thats always a good sign of reliability.

Ok. I always thought that 914's were the same as the 916(different toe, wormscrew heel, etc.), but i guess i was wrong! lol

And i REALLLLLLLYYYY want some FKS 120's or p12's, but they are hard to find cheap.

Damn

^ I couldn't be wrong - i'm no guru on Salomon bindings but i don't think there is much difference between the 912/14 but there is a massive difference between 914/16 - the 16 has a full metal heel.

I'd say FKS120 is a perfect binding for someone not needing DIN of over 12 - you're right though, getting really hard to find.

haha that was supposed to say i COULD be wrong!

Another downside of FKS is the brakes/parts. Gonna have to bend them for almost any freestyle/freeride ski these days..

Ya, i was never sure if the 912/914 were the same or it was the 914/916 were the same.

FKS/turntable binders are the best bindings out there, and also some of the worst.

Pros:
- never pre-release, and if they do, it just means the forward pressure is loosening up, which takes about 5 sec. to fix.

- tightest screw pattern ever, you definitely notice how much livelier the tail is when its aloud to flex properly, VS having binding screws 5 inches behind your heel.

-  fairly good release. they are race bindings, so staying in is more of a priority than coming out, but they do have a reliable release, its just a little more sticky feeling than rec. bindings. with some bindings, you never feel it come off. with turntables, the elasticity makes the release a little more prolonged.

- they transmit a ton of energy into the ski, and ski MUCH better than alot of bindings.

Negatives:
- they arnt THAT durable. the important parts are bombproof, but theres alot of little features, tabs, bushings that are always snapped or broken. never really affects performance, but its annoying.

-the brakes suck royal dick. get used to hand bending them back into place. just about every time i fall switch i have to bend my brakes back up.


- that great tight screw pattern is also a negative. on skis without a solid mounting pad or a softwood ski (like alot of K2s), they are more prone to ripping out than some others. ive never had that problem, but they do do it more than say a salomon or something.

- the full turntable heel is SOOOOOO annoying to have to manually reset, and whenever you step them down, half the time the just kick out to the side instead of going down.

all that being said, if the pros of that binder sound good, but the negatives seem like a pain in the ass, get onto ebay and find some of the older look pivots or rossi axial 1s. they are a MILLION times better than the PXs, and have almost all of the same features as the racestock binders. they are wormscrew forward pressure, pretty much indestructible (ive broken more turntables than i have pivots.), and have the BEST release out of any binding ive ever ridden in my life. smooth like butter, and no need to crank dins up real high.

really, the only reason i ride turntables over pivots is that i can score the old ass turntables, rip them apart, and rebuild them for next to nothing, while the pivots cant be taken apart, and they develop a little slop over a few years.

but yea, thats my 2cents

I, along with much of NS, am a huge fan of FKS. I have some FKS 155 from last year in my thread, feel free to take a look. Bombproof bindings that hold their value.

https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/351805/

so wait someone said the fks need alot of care like changing springs or something ?? idr what the kid said but it was something along with little things go wrong or something ? (bump)

if you dont want to deal with FKS and their nit-pickyness here's a GREAT binding for a GREAT price.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/DYN0185/Look-PX-15-Jib-Trouble-Alpine-Ski-Binding.html?CMP_ID=SH_FRO001&CMP_SKU=DYN0185&mv_pc=r126

are they safe.. and i wont pop out and preeject like i do now

i think im going to buy the fks 155 but whats all this stuff with bendings the break ? just so it will fit over the ski ? and how do i do it and do i need to like tune the bindings alot ? and do little things go wrong with the bindings ?