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bernard.saucier
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I've been using Rossignol bindings and they keep breaking. I will be changing bindings soon and i wanted to know what would be a good choice.

Are bottles (like scratch bindings) a good option or should i go for a standard binding (like Salomon).

For mainly park riding and some all-around the mountain, would it be a good idea to invest in a pair of ski-blade binding (like the Line's)?

Feb 18 2008 10:38AM
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skibumbmx
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if your a agressive skier dont go with salomon, go with for like Look/Rossi pivots.
 or FKS
Feb 18 2008 11:10AM
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bernard.saucier
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I have FKS 120 rossignol bindings and they totally suck for freestyle because they keep unbinding when you start spinning. Having a technology designed for racing, they do not perform so much in freestyle. Also, it's expensive to get larger stoppers to fit freestyle skis. Is it a good investment to pay for more expensive bindings or just take a pair of look (bottle) and keep repairing/replacing them.
Feb 18 2008 11:14AM
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chewy15
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everyone has their own opinions on bindings. personally i think i you drop the money on a high performance bindings, basically a race binding, it will last. when you get your bindings just make sure that the breaks are nicely over the ski so landing switch it desn't catch. other then that a race binding with dins beginning at 8 or 10 should hold you in over just about any thing. ive had a few problems with the breaks on my salomons 9 14s, but the same bindings FIS edition (the race version) has been bomb proof for me. so basically buy any almost full metal binding and you'll be fine, itll be a little heavier but suck it up.
Feb 18 2008 11:21AM
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bernard.saucier
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On my FKS, one of the stopper kept catching when i landed switch and half of it eventually ripped off. Thats one problem. But what pisses me off the most is when I try to torque a bigger spin (i spin to the left), my right ski keeps unclipping, no matter how high the din is on it. Maybe that's due to the age of my bindings though (they are 4 yrs old). However, I'm considering non-pivot bindings for next winter because i've figured out that the pivot tend to break a lot more than some solid regular bindings.
Feb 19 2008 9:18PM
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attitashfreestyle29
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don't put deadbolts on fat skis. I have 614s on my Lizzies and they always come off regardless of the din
Feb 19 2008 10:11PM
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josh.
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whats your din at weight height boot sole?
Feb 19 2008 10:14PM
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bernard.saucier
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Feb 19 2008 10:18PM
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skier_boy26
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uh.... you most have had some dumbass mount your skis, or your settings, such as forward pressure and din, are out of whack (which could be due to shit mount) because FKS bindings are practically the best bindings (in my opinion) for park skiing.

Feb 19 2008 10:23PM
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Silence
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I'll bet thats a forward pressure issue.
Feb 19 2008 10:29PM
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bernard.saucier
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Yea I guess i'll just have them re-installed next winter with new stoppers, cuz even though they seem to be pretty solid, they do tend to break
Feb 19 2008 10:30PM
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Caveman.
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are your boots super worn down? i have had look pivot 18 bindings for 5 years now and have never had a problem with them pre releasing
Feb 19 2008 10:33PM
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josh.
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dude its not the brakes it probably a shitty mount
Feb 19 2008 11:16PM
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rudager
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Salomen STH 16(or 12)
I have it, shits strong
good stuff
reinforced heel
good stuff
Feb 19 2008 11:20PM
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AdiibA
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with your problems with spinning i guess its because of your boots, i had the same problem with my boots they were just too old and the sole was worn out

Feb 20 2008 8:37AM
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liaosongfang
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i got Jesters on my Lizzies.  they're sick.  i've been very satisfied thusfar.
Feb 20 2008 11:33AM
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YT.SKEEZE
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I always get salomon simply because I get their proforms..but they fucking suck I break so many little things on them(screw snap etc)
DONT BUY SALOMON
Feb 20 2008 11:47AM
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skierkid_92
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i always get look/dynastar but i think its just preferance
Feb 20 2008 12:33PM
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lepp0012
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The 12's aren't as beefy as the 16 though, are they?
Feb 20 2008 12:40PM
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I-Ski-AK
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BING BING BING!!!
Feb 20 2008 12:56PM
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sdfjklioeur
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rossi axials
Feb 20 2008 2:45PM
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ballerman
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yeah thats true. the 12s are good but the 16s are that much beefier. they have a 30 degree pull-back on the toe which means on the 12 you would come out of the binding a lot easier. i use 16s on my jp's for pow cos i don't wanna be losing a ski after a drop but i wouldn't use mine in the park as the possibility of tweaking a knee is definitely higher. if mainly park i'd get the 12.
Feb 20 2008 3:03PM
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josh.
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take a picture of the heel piece when your foot is in the binding looking foward and down then we can see if its a foward preesure problem
Feb 20 2008 7:22PM
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jason...
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look p12 pivots
Feb 20 2008 8:00PM
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Silence
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It's harder to tell/adjust on FKS compared to normal consumer bindings
Feb 20 2008 8:12PM
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josh.
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yeah i dont deal with them that muck mostly head tyrolia and god do they suck
Feb 20 2008 9:14PM
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bernard.saucier
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What i meant when i said that they drop when i torque a bigger spin is that the bottle stays clipped but my heel manages to get out by the side and the fix just makes a quarter of a rotation and i end up spinning with 1 ski... My boots are still shiny white salomon's. I think the binding has just been poorly adjusted to my ski... I'll have them replaced as soon as possible. If i find motivation to actually take pictures of fix/ski/boot, I'll put them on the forum. lol. When I said that i'll have my stopper replaced, it's because it broke, not because my boot gets out of the binding too easily.

Dins in the front and the back are at 10 and I weigh about 170 so i think it's pretty high but that's as high as i wanna risk it.
Feb 20 2008 11:12PM
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Caveman.
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Feb 21 2008 12:05AM
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skipocketrockets
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i really like my marker jesters for park and all around actually

Feb 21 2008 12:09AM
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rudager
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I have no clue
I have the 16's so so so so good

I hvae a pair of S912 on my prophets, i was skiing switch last year quite fast, caught an edge and cracked up the heel plate on them

but the 16's are more burly than the 12s
Feb 21 2008 9:53AM
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Lickmy9
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I have used look and rossi with no problem i currently have a pair of Rossi Scrath 140's.
Feb 21 2008 10:21AM
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jergriff
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JESTERS!
Feb 21 2008 11:05AM
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bernard.saucier
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What are deadbolts ??
Feb 21 2008 11:09AM
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skiP.E.I.
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I REALLY wouldn't go for Salomon, because the brakes on my s810s break literally twice a month, I've had to have the heelplate replaced twice and now it is cracked again, they are all cracked around the screw holes and the toepiece is constantly loosening up. My brother had z10s and teh exact same things happened, except the toepiece didn't loosen up as much because tehy didn't have the driver toe, plus he just broke the heelpiece off one. He just got a pair of Look P12s to replace them and tehy seem pretty good so far, a lot more solid than the Sallys, but a bit heavier. I ahve also heard good things about Head (tyrolia) Mojo bindings, but I've never experienced them.
Feb 21 2008 11:16AM
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LPT_311
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never heard of brakes being called stoppers before...
Feb 21 2008 11:26AM
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bernard.saucier
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Sorry lol i've always called breaks stoppers. I guess it's because of where i come from lol
Feb 21 2008 11:50AM
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BRMN
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fks are the best binding, and the binding of choice for alot of good skiers
Feb 21 2008 2:25PM
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skier_boy26
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if you dig your edge in ever so slightly when spinning, it creates a shit ton of torque. I used to have the problem of releasing due to torque from setting a spin (especially going on to rails and in the pipe), but I never had that problem when I used FKS style bindings (p18s to be exact), simply becuase there is a lot of forward pressure and more room for a higher DIN.
I'm about 175 lbs, but to prevent preleasing just from some takeoffs, I have to be on 14. Then again, my forward pressure is fine and such.

If the bindings are "poorly adjusted to" your ski, then you might want to rememdy that, not necessarily the bindings. And you may need to increase the din a bit. Go for salomon, then see what kind of hell you'll be in.

Feb 21 2008 2:46PM
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Caveman.
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just curious, where are you from?
Feb 21 2008 4:11PM
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BootySpunk.
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i have marker 12.0 free and i love them 2nd season riding them and havent had any trouble
Feb 21 2008 4:14PM
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josh.
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markers are so shitty dont buy um or atomic
Feb 21 2008 4:30PM
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BIG_SALTY
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i love my rossi bindings they haven't ever given me any trouble
Feb 21 2008 5:10PM
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BootySpunk.
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just saying mine have been good to me
Feb 21 2008 5:18PM
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Tasche
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Has anyone had any issues with the fks 155 toe piece causing harm to your legs? I have a mint pair of 155s if I want them but I am hesitant to put them on park skis. I am riding fks 120 now.
Feb 21 2008 5:22PM
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bernard.saucier
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quebec
Feb 21 2008 5:37PM
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jergriff
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MARKER jester are NOT shitty....

Feb 21 2008 6:33PM
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Tasche
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ya you're right they are expensive and kind of shitty.
Feb 21 2008 8:20PM
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japanada
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the marker comp 14 or 20 are bomber bindings. There is a reason the Pep and Andy both rocked them before the Jester came out. I love my Jesters.
Feb 21 2008 8:29PM
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josh.
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i was talking about the marker free the jester's tight
Feb 21 2008 9:23PM
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joey.
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well said, same shit happened to me, go for look/dynastar or rossi's bottle-styles soooo solid
Feb 21 2008 10:18PM
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bobs
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lol your forward pressure is lose. There's two screws on the heel at the ends of the arms. Those need to be tightened. Should be good as new after that. Trust me you have the best binding available.  Yes the breaks are a pain to replace but you just need to bend em properly.  The whole race technology is a bullshit line.  If they weren't the best every freelance pro would not be riding them. 
Feb 21 2008 10:29PM
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