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Do you think that it would be slavery if a family member was injured and they called upon you to assist them?
Would you expect your father or mother to pay you to take care of them when they are too old to take care of themselves?
I think that being a citizen of some community warrants certain obligations to that community, much like you have an obligation to your parents and family. In your example of Vietnam I see it as the government not following the wills of the population, causing an excess of conscientious objectors failing the system... in turn the government was forced into making people fulfill their duty. None the less citizens still have obligations to the place that provides the land they live on.
If our definition of slavery is "forced labor with no compensation" Either you believe that government provides some benefits to its citizens, or that government does not provide any benefits to it's citizens -- in which case you'd be arguing for anarchism (If you're an anarchist I grant you're correct and conscription is slavery). But if you believe that there is benefit to living under a particular government then the citizens of that government are indebted to that government-- (chiefly so that the government can survive). Conscription is simply the government’s way of collecting that debt.
wow you've got enough anger to fight your own Iraq war
I’m in no way justifying the war in the middle east, nor am I supportive of sending one across the globe to do something he feels is unjustified
All of your examples of "failure to duty" are suggesting that only one person has a responsibility. A country that goes to war against the wills of its people is not fulfilling its duty to its people, an alcoholic parent is not fulfilling their duties to their children... but is a child of an alcoholic parent to turn their back and run at first chance?
-- I hope that you'd feel some sort of compassion to at least attempt to aid and save a parent from alcoholism before abandoning them
you cannot rely simply on people's good will to kick in and have a completely unorganized system of government, (I.e. no draft) There are plenty of people who confidently forget about all of the benefits a government provides.........especially at a time of war, who would rather not risk themselves for protecting the way of life they so deeply love.
Conscription itself is not immoral, it is not slavery, and it is the way citizens serve their government to ensure its continued existence... any sort of conscription during an unjust war is only wrong in that it is an unjust war.
Mandatory conscription for all wars might even be a good thing -- with actual risk of you going to war you'd be more apt to ensure that any war you fight is a just war.
i'm totally sorry dude you're 100% correct, infact anything we have to give to our government is BULLSHIT
taxes = slavery
jury duty = slavery
and fuck every time i've said the pledge of allegiance i was fucking coercied into doing that...
I'm a slave when i have to throw my garbage away in the contaniers provided by the city.
At work i'm a slave when i have to wash my hands after going to the bathroom.
And aren't all of us exploited by money system? We're all slaves to the dollar.
Thank god i'm not a mother-- i fi was i'd be enslaved to the little bastard child.
Unless i'm 100% free to do whatever the fuck i want, anything i do for anyone is considered slavery isn't.
I do not support the iraq war. i do not support war unless we are fighting to protect our home, but if we have a justified war on our hands it's not slavery to call amoung country men to sacrifice thier lives for their country. When you're a slave you do not recieve anything for your labor, you have no reason other than fear of punishment to work. If the draft really is slavery, than you would see that there is no benifit to protecting your home and way of life.