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Did jossi wells wear a weight belt in x game slopestyle?

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lydiaiskwllol
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i heard jossi wells wore a weight belt in x games slopestyle. true?
Feb 12 2008 3:27AM
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dave44
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wouldnt be surprised if it was. hes still young, may not tbe as strong core-wise, and it may give him extra support cause you dont wanna fuckup your back

Feb 12 2008 3:35AM
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lydiaiskwllol
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i head it was because he couldnt get enough speed for the jumps
Feb 12 2008 3:38AM
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dave44
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i dont see how a weight belt would've helped.

disregard my first post, i waas thinking about half pipe
Feb 12 2008 3:43AM
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quebecfreestyler
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I might be wrong bnut weight  dosnt mean more speed.

 that's if there is no friction betweeen snow and skis tho so i,m prolly wron.
 I can see jossi wearing a back stabuiliser aftergetting his back fucked up at joi.

 anyway, the kid slays.

Feb 12 2008 3:45AM
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dave44
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maybe im thinking of something else, but  thought a weight belt was something which those weight lifters wear to support their core (abs and back) to protect their spine

it makes more sense now .. i didn't realize jossi got injured last JOI
Feb 12 2008 3:47AM
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quebecfreestyler
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my toughts too. but im wa to tired to be thinking straight .
Feb 12 2008 3:53AM
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lydiaiskwllol
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yea thatl be it.i was told it was for speed but uport makes sence

Feb 12 2008 3:56AM
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dave44
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by the looks of it, you cant type straight either too

and you see, if it adds weight, it'll only weigh you down in the air... or am i wrong? i donno. it won't help with spinning, either
Feb 12 2008 4:01AM
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lydiaiskwllol
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yea it doesnt makes sence. it wouldv been for suport
Feb 12 2008 4:36AM
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Melvs
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adding mass would help him maintain momentum....which would = more speed.
Feb 12 2008 8:44AM
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Jordan_B
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ummmm NO he did not wear a weight belt are you kidding?
the course was just that close together it was easy for speed
Feb 12 2008 10:43AM
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J.D.
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Speaking as someone pushing 220 pounds, I can say with some certainty that yes, weight does equal more speed.
Feb 12 2008 12:28PM
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Bepo
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are you guys serious?  First off a weight belt adds weight. Second, it makes a ton of sense seeing as all the athletes had trouble maintaining speed.  More weight = more speed.  As you add weight its related to volume, while win resistance is area.  So as you add weight, the area for wind resistance increases less than the weight.  So you actually gain more speed, since the new effect of wind resistance is proportunately less that the new force of gravity.  noobs

So yes, if he was having trouble with speed a weight belt would help a lot (probably 20+ pounds to make a big difference)
Feb 12 2008 12:51PM
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tommihq
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Maybe it was the kind of weight belt that divers wear?
Feb 12 2008 1:04PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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weight does help you get speed...at my park everyone is like, "yeah I barely make it going straight" so i do one turn and make it fine because I weigh more than 85% of the people o the park. So he could have worn something to try to speed him up.
Feb 12 2008 1:20PM
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three6steeze
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"either too" makes a lot of sense...

And you are wrong, more weight=more momentum and you'll carry it longer, the effects it would have in the air are very, very minimal.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out he did wear a weight belt, hes not the biggest person and i know from personal experience that being 20 lbs lighter then anyone else hitting a jump changes the line you need to take a lott. It can go from 4 mellow turns inbetween a jump to 1 or straight line to even clear it.





Feb 12 2008 1:28PM
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LPT_311
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a weight LIFTING belt wouldn't add that much weight on him.....its for support, if thats true. And from what Ced. said about him hurting his back at JOI, i believe it would help with support in a situation like Jossis.
Feb 12 2008 1:49PM
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andy_boy
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Feb 12 2008 3:10PM
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Powforbreakfast.
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think of 20 extra lbs on your body that's not secure (as in, attached inside your skin) and imagine trying to spin on to a rail with it.  No.  i'm assuming what your "weight belt" is reffering to is a brace much like a weight lifters belt mentioned above that dissipates force over a greater area of your body, while adding support in a direction laterally.  a knee brace works the same way.  are you guys serious about this 20 pound weight belt thing?  jesus, i would give my right nut if it was true someone like jossi wore weights to gain speed.  it's all about being aggressive.  notice how sammy always has his destination set when he's riding the course.  there's no hesitation.  he just goes, and he clears the shit out of everything.  sure, he's bigger than jossi, but it's about how aggressive you are.  i'm a smaller rider myself, and i frequently up the distances of a lot of the bigger guys i ride with.  i could be wrong, but i'm 99 percent sure your weight belt theory is just a brace.
Feb 12 2008 3:35PM
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mizzike
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hahahah nice
Feb 12 2008 3:39PM
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Parkboy
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I sense confusion here regarding the difference between a weight BELT (for lifting) and a weight VEST or BELT that is used for say.....diving
Feb 12 2008 3:57PM
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LPT_311
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exactly. weight belt for lifting fellas
Feb 12 2008 4:01PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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ha ha brent and his RPI education cant even spell proportionally right.
Feb 12 2008 4:19PM
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b-kul
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was it a support belt or a weighted belt.
Feb 12 2008 5:35PM
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b-kul
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?
Feb 12 2008 5:36PM
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shrEddie
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i was watching a skier cross at my mountain from the lift, and the big fat dude would just blow by everyone on the straightaway.  it was because he was heavier.  gravity pulls him down the mountain faster.  im 222 and its easier for me to hit jumps than my friend whos like 130. 

but i imagine that would be very weird to ski hard with a weight belt.  i doubt he did it, but it would make sense from a physics standpoint
Feb 12 2008 5:37PM
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Pirruccio
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Feb 12 2008 6:42PM
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Pirruccio
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my bad
what i was trying to say was
im pretty sure more wieght is more speed
Feb 12 2008 6:43PM
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quebecfreestyler
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in facts gravity act the same way on someone  twice you size
 teh reason more weight would mean more speed is because of how it affect riction adn toher forms of resistance.
  get a 2 pound ball and let it drop down a sloped surface with no friction and then do teh same with a 10 pound ball and you'll see they reach the bottom with the exact same speed and will take the same amount of time.

Feb 12 2008 6:57PM
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BEARS.
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where was this heard?
Feb 12 2008 7:17PM
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ECski
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WOW this is dumb,a WEIGHTED belt would not make sense, i think the thread maker was thinking aboutt a WEIGHT lifting belt. The kind of one where it is thiker on the back to give support which would make sense since he hurt his back last year.
Feb 12 2008 7:34PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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THe thing is, with skiing there is friction, and then weight matters. everyone has done that in science class by the way, everyone knows things fall at the same rate.
Feb 12 2008 8:10PM
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quebecfreestyler
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well from seing what people wrote staitn how gravity would take a heavier dude down faster, i tought sonme of you didnt listen at all.
Feb 12 2008 8:13PM
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cousinmark
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dose anyone else think of that as lame and kinda of on the cheating side of things????  i think it was cause of his back not for speed. did you see the way he sessioned big bertha 2 years ago.
Feb 12 2008 8:22PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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hahaha, ok people... weight does have an effect on speed, and no being heavier doesn't mean he will get less air. thats like 5th grade physics you're butchering here.

by the way, he wasn't wearing a belt. it was the severed heads of his enemies. 1bi2 is pretty baller.



Feb 12 2008 8:25PM
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A_Thomas
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listen up you ignorant motherfuckers, ced is right.  why do you think there's no weight class in olympic racing?  you dumbasses who argue, do your research or go to class before you make unfounded arguments
Feb 12 2008 8:29PM
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alaskakid
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Jossi should just tell us. He does get on NS.
Feb 12 2008 8:31PM
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SteezePatrol
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the fact that gravity acts the same on all objects can only be exhibited in a perfect vacuum or frictionless environment. not too many of either out on the slopes. heavier person on the same skis will go faster than a light person on the same skis (on the same snow).

Feb 12 2008 9:13PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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or... talk to anyone that races you fucking idiot.
Feb 12 2008 9:14PM
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notomatoplz
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the only time you would want more weight when skiing that i can think of is downhill racing
Feb 12 2008 9:17PM
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Hairmetaler
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the more weight the faster but then when you take off the less air so it kinda cancels out.
Feb 12 2008 9:47PM
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Hovan
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thousanth view yay
Feb 12 2008 9:58PM
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Skwirl
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You sir, are an idiot.
Feb 12 2008 10:50PM
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landonn
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speed was definetly not an issue on that course, at aspen open, i always made the jumps and i am real little,like 110 pounds. but a back support would make sense, everytime i overshot the jumps, my back would hurt so bad.
Feb 13 2008 12:07AM
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T.Spliff
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how the fuck would a WEIGHT BELT help your back? maybe a back brace but a weight belt..... it is a belt that has weights around it... why do you think small kids cant clear big jumps.. because they are not heavy enough to gain enough speed. if he wore a weight belt it would be for speed not for support. if anything it would hurt him because his muscles wouldn't be use to the extra weight and he would probably get hurt more easily. i was very surprised by the dumbness of some of these posts.
Feb 13 2008 12:50AM
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T.Spliff
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and i just read the rest of the responses and i see where people are getting confused. a weight lifting belt would def. give more support. exscuse my offensive language, but more weight would def, give him more speed.
Feb 13 2008 12:53AM
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LPT_311
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This thread is talking about a weight lifting belt. Those are used for support. Most are leather and strap in the front around the waist. This thread does NOT have anything to do with a WEIGHTED BELT to make him heavier. Honestly people. Read for fucks sake
Feb 13 2008 1:14AM
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toominator
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I wouldn't be suprised if he wore a belt to add more weight, at joi 2 years ago I think he was struggling to get enough speed to clear it.

and weight does make a difference to speed, it doesn't really matter about the theory, just straight line down a slope with someone who weighs 20kg more or less than you and see who ends up at the bottom faster. I only weight about 60kg and my mate is probably about 80ish. I'm the better skier and on freshly waxed skis, hes on rentals. going through the park I have to almost go into a tuck to get enough speed to clear it while he can put a turn in.
Feb 13 2008 1:19AM
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lotsoffun
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is it illegal or something?
Feb 13 2008 1:44AM
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T.Spliff
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from the title of this thread i would strongly disagree with you. not only does it not make sense to wear a weight lifting belt in a comp when there are other forms of braces for support, but a weight belt sounds like a belt with weight on it.
Feb 13 2008 1:55AM
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