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This shit needs to stop now

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i[RYHO]RUN
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NS seems to be a huge community and it shoud be. We all have something in common. we all love to ski. We all use this site differently . Some come on here just to buy and sell while others use every aspect of the site. we shoud be hooking each other up. Not fucking each other over. I have seen so much shit get flipped on here from ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200183761420
Spk krystals fs




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110195941919
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110195938016
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110195940965


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110195933839
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110195939952




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120162958273




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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150171371065
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this is just a small example. Some are you are going to say "well if he got a deal and wants to sell and make money then let him" I say dont fucking buy shit on ebat and come here and try to make a profit. It is fucking shady and its wrong in so many ways


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Dec 28 2007 2:30AM
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dave44
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Maybe they didn't intend to flip it, but they bought it and it didn't fit, and it was ski related so NS was the best bet (which may be the case with boots, clothes, etc). Just another way of looking at it.

Although that doesn't justify them upping the price by $100, that's a separate issue which I'm not going into
Dec 28 2007 2:37AM
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i[RYHO]RUN
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those were just some of the items... and i doubt it, they were ment t be flipped. Those are all from the same buyer
Dec 28 2007 2:44AM
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00000000
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That shit is just whack in my opinion, if you got a good deal on something, and no longer want it, then pass the deal along as opposed to fucking over a member of the community. If anyone is aware of sales or threads where someone is intentionally trying to flip an item, let me know and I'll deal with it accordingly.

Flip shit on ebay if you have too, but not here. Common guys.
Dec 28 2007 2:53AM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
whatever.
You don't know the story behind those sales, and they may well have had legitimate reasons behind them.

It would be stupid not to buy something on ebay if it was a steal.
e.g. you find a $200 jacket for $50 - you buy it, you know someone on NS is going to want it, but you are smart and know where to find deals.
You don't sell it for $200, but for a price which will hook people up with a better price than they could find elsewhere, and you also make some money for the sake of the transaction and for taking the opportunity.

I dont flip shit, but unfortunately for some, business is business...
There is a fine line, but if it's a win/win for everyone then so be it.

I do, however feel that buying from an NS'er and selling it back to NS for a profit is fucking wrong and is inexcusable.
Dec 28 2007 2:53AM
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Silence
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before you flame the shit out of me for my last post, let me reiterate that i don't condone ANY flipping onto NS - whether it be NS to NS or external to NS, but business is business and for many people it is pure logic to flip shit here because the community isn't important enough to them for the sake of a few bucks.
Dec 28 2007 2:56AM
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dave44
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If they were all bought by the same buyer, then indeed, they were probably meant to be flipped.

I gotta agree with Silence though. If you can found a deal, but found you didn't like the item/it didn't fit, go ahead and hook up an NS'er with a better deal than they would otherwise find.


But when you're consistently doing it for a profit and using passionate skiers (i.e. NS) as a source of income, then there's simply no excuse.
Dec 28 2007 2:57AM
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i[RYHO]RUN
Posts: 135 - Karma: 10
I agree

but buying and making a 100-500% profit is just wrong
Dec 28 2007 3:06AM
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zerospinskier
Posts: 4867 - Karma: 350
Ok lemme have a go at this.
First boots: He bought them thinking they were cool, then realized they were womens boots so is trying to sell them.

Sweatshirts/ t-shirts: Bought them but then didn't fit cuz they ran small.

Goggles: Bought them, but then his parents got him new Crowbars for christmas!

Last boots: Bought them cuz they looked cool, but was an idiot and didn't try them on first so they were too wide for his foot being Salomon and he had to sell them.


But really though, ya that's gay.
Dec 28 2007 5:41AM
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AntifreezeSteeze
Posts: 1643 - Karma: 53
mmm those are some beautiful spk's
Dec 28 2007 8:57AM
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ESfreeridepa
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and all this stuff was resold on ebay....
Dec 28 2007 9:35AM
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ESfreeridepa
Posts: 2204 - Karma: 11
its me!!!, but anyway, none of this stuff was resold on here.... on ebay.

someone has no life... ebay stalk much?

anyway, its called business...im not jacking up the prices much im still selling them for much less than any shops, i find solid deals. i turn a little profit.

its called being smart.  i dont care if NS hates it. technically speaking its a job for me, i am in college right now with no other job... i took 1000$ of my money and invested it, i am now turning it into more to support paying for college, and skiing.

if you were smart youd do it it too

ohh and im not the only one on here that does it.... theres a seller you guys consider "very legit" that also does it just as much as me.

you guys just dont love him as much as me...

*******key point here********

when you go into a shop... do you bitch about paying 500$ for a pair of skis when the shop only paid 200$? no you dont. companies produce skis for cheap and sell them to the shops for more, then they sell them for more!!! you dont bitch and moan, maybe you still get a good deal from the shop.

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thats what im doing, i dont sell for retail, if people missed a deal and still want something, but they cant afford to pay retail, voila!!! look esfreeridepa is selling these for over 100$ less then what retail is. "wow!! solid deal. im gonna purchase them. and look im supporting ES's future"

honestly i dont care how mad you guys get. i take the oppertunities and make them better.

but you RYHORN, i obviously have a big impact on your life, i bet you cant get me out of your mind, your thinking "oh my god ES got another good deal im jealous, hes gonna make money" then you get all hot and bother and search on the internet for all my ebay history, im kinda sketched out now, im looking around my room to find the hidden cameras, and i cant wait to see the shrine you have of me in your closet.

honestly though.... how long did that take?
Dec 28 2007 9:49AM
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AntifreezeSteeze
Posts: 1643 - Karma: 53
hahaha...business is business
Dec 28 2007 10:01AM
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i[RYHO]RUN
Posts: 135 - Karma: 10
2 mind max. And not all your shit was resold on ebay bud. Go invest your oney somewhere else insted of trying to make a profit on NS. its fucking lame.Your sketchy as fuck. Multi threads calling you out. So really go get a job is not that hard.  Call up the big M they are always hiring and they will support your fat ass with all the food you want. FREE BIG MAC'S for the fag.
Dec 28 2007 12:02PM
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sanders
Posts: 666 - Karma: 55
why the fuck does it bother you so much?... does it honestly affect your life? im gunna go ahead and say no.. so then why the fuck do you care so much? its his shit let him do what he wants with it, if you dont like it then dont fuckin buy from him instead of makin a post an complainin like a bitch. grow the fuck up and live your own life.
Dec 28 2007 12:27PM
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i[RYHO]RUN
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its not calling this kid out he was an example. THE TREAD IT ABOUT FLIPING SHIT FROM EBAY
Dec 28 2007 12:36PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Who gives a fuck.  Ya, it is VERY nice when kids hook people up but it should definitely NOT be expected.  It's called making a profit.  Supply and demand son, if somebody wants to make money and knows somebody will buy it then for all means go for it.  As far as a nice little community....ya sure, nice and small with over 100,000 people. 
Dec 28 2007 12:49PM
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00000000
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Business is business...

But when the fuck did newschoolers become a place of business. It's a community, and I plan to do all in my power to keep it that way.

Guess what? That means deleting everything I see that is being flipped without you stating you payed less for it. Is it really that difficult to say:

"Hey guys I scored a great deal on [insert item here] from [insert place here] and I'm looking to pass on the deal so I'll start the BIDDING at [what you payed]"

You guys might say "go cry about it" or "NS hates flippers" and personally you guys are right. Who cares if the general population of NS doesn't like you guys.

But so do I and as long as I see the "delete thread" key, it means you won't be selling much on these forums.
Dec 28 2007 12:53PM
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canuck
Posts: 1124 - Karma: 137
This is not a big deal,,,, if somebody wants his goods and feels likes its a good price they will buy it. If his price is too high then they wont buy it. like they said above,,,,simple supply and demand. Now,,,,if they were stolen that is another story,,,, but this is not happening at all,,, so let it be.

the point about "hook ups" who are you to say what is a hook up and what's not. Kids are still getting great deals out of his stuff.
Dec 28 2007 1:01PM
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sanders
Posts: 666 - Karma: 55
im not sayin i "flip" but i mean come on seriously, is it that big of a deal?.. do u honestly loose sleep over it? like the dude said above, if the price is too high people wont buy, its not rocket science.
Dec 28 2007 1:44PM
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ESfreeridepa
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so you cant spell... you cant think of another word to use rather than "fag" (i used this word alot when i was in 5th grade too.)

this has lead me to assume one of four things...
- that you are either 15 years old
-you havent graduated high school
-you graduated highschool but arent doing anything with your life
-you tried the college thing, it didnt work out for ya so now your working at mcdonalds and you guys need some more employees.

im a fag and im fat now!! look out everyone.

and how does this make me sketchy?

ohhh and bascally you guys are saying that if a sponsored kid is done using their equipment they should have to give it away for free? because they didnt pay for it...

or if someone won something in a competition, they cant resell it, they have to give it away for free?

Dec 28 2007 4:00PM
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invaderskier36
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Well you are correct that was not me. And no it is different then those two examples you listed.
Dec 28 2007 4:07PM
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invaderskier36
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fuck me. You were right that wasnt him it was me on his comp


this shit is getting out of control. It really is just becomming a big joke. If the kid wants to be shady and flip shit from ebay let him
Dec 28 2007 4:10PM
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Silence
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unfortunately this whole area is very grey.

on one hand NS is a tight community to many of its members and it is bad form to flip shit onto each other with the sole intention of making a profit.

On the other hand, it is obvious that most people here are still at highschool, haven't got many skills in the way of business and therefore find it hard to recognise that business is exactly that. Taking advantage of an opportunity to make money by buying something at a low price and selling it at a higher price...its straight-up logical, and to many smart people in the world; not to take advantage of things like that would be considered stupid.

I can't see the issue with buying something cheap and then selling it here at a price still well below retail?..It helps out the people buying the products because they don't pay retail, whereas most places you will.. and it also helps out the seller by giving them a small profit, and a reward for identifying and taking the financial risk and opportunity in the first place.

As i said, there is a fine line between making a sound business decision and getting a good return on your investment, but at the same time, by taking advantage of the NS community purely to make a profit..
I don't think that there should be a blanket ban on sale threads for things which have been purchased on Ebay. The price things sell for here is probably cheaper than what they would achieve on Ebay anyway.
There is a fine line between taking advantage of NS and hooking members up whilst still making money.
Dec 28 2007 4:13PM
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Silence
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There are valid arguments each way, BUT - buying from Ebay with the sole intention of selling here is shady..thats the bottom line.
Dec 28 2007 4:15PM
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Sir_SkrillALot
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drama drama drama
Dec 28 2007 4:17PM
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Silence
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and at the risk of getting flamed, i don't think Ebay flipping is comparable to SAC flipping.
Dec 28 2007 4:20PM
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ESfreeridepa
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huh?
Dec 28 2007 4:32PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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i dont get it?
so just because youre a member free enterprise is out the window?
being a communist is shady... dont be a commy!
Dec 28 2007 4:50PM
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ogfeez
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oh fucking cry about it, welcome to america, land of free enterprise. fucking whine some more he's still selling the shit at a good price, so shut you're fuckin' piehole and let him be. Fuckin christ get over yourself and get off you fucking soap box. Seriously just sit down in a quiet room and ask yourself...... is it really worth losing sleep over?, does this affect you directly in life? will the world end? NO, NO, and NO. Really.......... GET OVER YOURSELF
Dec 28 2007 4:54PM
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shibby
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Yo homebrahs, if you guys have been here for any decent amount of time you would agree with the OP. NS isn't an eBay for skiing it's a tight knit community with a lot of chill peeps. Buying crap for the sake of re-selling it to your supposed to be fellow skiers is hella gay. I don't care if your paying for your coke addiction or college (yeah right); your still preventing a kid who is much more needy from getting a siker deal on something.

Now I guess I don't mind if you do it every once in a while but to hoard shit like this guy does is redic. He even admitted to not having a job (don't know why he would say that) and making money from flipping shit here. Apparently he's uber shady too.

Anyways to sum it all up just read what substance wrote, I think he's got the best understanding of these typed of situations.
Dec 28 2007 5:33PM
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shibby
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^^Oh and I'm guessing your ES's alias account.
Dec 28 2007 5:33PM
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ESfreeridepa
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trust me i have been here longer than most people that have posted in this thread.

how can you even consider saying NS is a tight nit community when theres over 100,000 members on this site? a few people know each other but thats it.

and once again, people the word "gay" or "fag" is not a good word to use. it has nothing to do with the point your trying to get across, and it makes you look extremely immature.

and yes i am in college bud, no need to be jealous... i have a future.

of course i admitted to not having a job, its kind of hard to manage a college and sports. and still manage to be able to work. but you wouldnt know that would you...

this is a job... its just like owning a shop, except i run it out of my house.

and apparently i am uber shady but thats only to kids i have never dealt with

ohh and thats not my alias, good try though.

Dec 28 2007 5:50PM
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shibby
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^BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thank you!
Dec 28 2007 6:00PM
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shibby
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^Looks like I'm going against the grain of this one...nice try though.
Dec 28 2007 6:23PM
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140stud
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yeah bud idk going against the grain and to hott of a sayin dese days either but i mean it good try agian....sooo inded you did have a nice try though....golin bud i be golinnnnnnnnnnnn
Dec 28 2007 6:25PM
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calebski.
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agreed
Dec 28 2007 6:32PM
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shibby
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Man I would love to argue with you but I can't even understand what your saying.
Dec 28 2007 6:33PM
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WeK
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if you dont wanna buy something dont.

if some are willing to invest money to give someone here on NS a good deal, then so be it. If they dont do it, then some random person is gonna get it, likely not helping anyone here. This is the same shit as SAC, except 1 person gets a shot at it here and then gets to offer a savings to more people and let them save some cash too, chances are whoever got the deal passed onto them here never even knew about the ebay auction, and thus would've payed even more then what they did here had someone not flipped it.
Dec 28 2007 6:36PM
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canuck
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What is soooooo, shady, please explain. there is nothing illegal going on here and like i said before, if the price is not right then people wont buy it. And if they do buy it then they are obviously getting it at a better price than they would have gotten else where, hence helping out the enitre NS "community",,,if that make you feel better about it.
Dec 28 2007 8:17PM
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Ben.
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so clearly everyone should give shti away on here god forbid they make a profit. that would be awful. hes giving kids stuff for cheaper prices than retail, how is that shady, u dont like it, dont buy from him. i on the other hand have no problem with it
Dec 28 2007 8:56PM
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DaLiNeRiDEr21
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sweet i am buying this shit
Dec 28 2007 9:16PM
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jason...
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i still dont see the fuck everyone complains about people wanting to make profit, its just dumb, what is wrong with wanting to make profit on something?
Dec 28 2007 9:50PM
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Triple_Strum
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don't be defensive.  WHat you are doing is legitimate, some people just don't like it.  I will fully admit that I have done it.  If someone on Ebay isn't willing to pay the price it should go for, why should they win it instead?  I consider it free capitalism at its best (or worst, depending on how you see it).  It isn't a big deal.  If people want to buy something to resell it, then the person on Ebay who lost the item should have bid higher, right?  Flipping can ONLY occur because other people weren't willing to bid what they should.  End of argument
Dec 28 2007 10:10PM
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Ben.
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Well said by one of the best sellers on here.
Dec 29 2007 3:03PM
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followCam
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This thread is really stupid.......


He's not asking people to pay overly expensive prices, nor is he making them pay anything. It doesn't matter if he bought it off eBay and is selling it again. Why should he compromise making a decent profit cause he got it cheap?


When you kids grow up and have to make a living, you will eventually realise that Business is Business.

Once again, this thread is really stupid.
Dec 29 2007 5:29PM
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WoodyE
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you hafta understand that not everybody on here is part of the community and that shit happens
Dec 29 2007 5:39PM
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snowbladesforlife
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If he really is a shady seller and you don't agree with his business practices then just send a message to all the people bidding on his ebay items and tell them that.  It is a really dick move, but can save buyers from having to deal with a shady seller who won't send their stuff or saying it's in better condition than it auctually is.
Dec 29 2007 6:15PM
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ISKi518
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Its not this seller he was an example I think he is talking aboutflipping from ebay as a whole. At TGR they rape you if you get caught
Dec 29 2007 6:18PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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see flipping shit on NS is just a dick move, most kids buying shit on NS are kids, and college students who are low on the cash flow or mom and dad wont pay for brand new shit from a shop.
i would say more than 3/4 of college students can manage a job work and sports, so if you are unable to do that now, i highly doubt you are going to have an easy time in the real world, so dont go claiming you have a future just because you're in college
also, what your doing is nothing like running a shop, you're just scamming kids. and to your post a few up, about kids winning shit or being sponsored, most of them state, "i won these at a comp so i will let them go cheap" are you telling us in your threads, "i got these off ebay for X amount, but im going to sell them to you guys for 200% more." 
Dec 29 2007 7:12PM
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ESfreeridepa
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I KNOW IM RIGHT

your right NS is kids and college students, as am I.

people can go ahead and pay retail from a shop i dont care.

you really think someone can have classes all day, and then go to practice, and then go to a job and then study? thats rediculous bud, get over yourself. my guess is that you probobly didnt go to college, and you definitly did not play any sports...

how the fuck is a shop not about scamming people? they do it to make money, they dont do it to hook people up with good prices

look i know what im doing is perfectly fine and as many kids stated it is, maybe some of NS doesnt view it that way, but i honestly do not care about thousands of greedy little kids that wouldnt do shit for someone else.

no those kids that win stuff should have to give it away for free because :
" you cant make money off NS"

if someone on here hooked me up with a good deal, trust me, i would hook them up in return. but i have yet to get a truly good deal on something on this website,

so until then sucks for you, i get damn good prices and your stuck paying retail.

ohh and i wish i could mark shit up 200% that would be sick!!!

I KNOW IM RIGHT

Dec 29 2007 8:57PM
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