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Why You Should Like Ron Paul!

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lt.milo
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Not because of his public speaking skills, no, because of what he has to say, because of the truth he speaks.  This is why you should like Ron Paul.  This is why the word needs to get out, this is who we need in office.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E5kv31MYKus


(and no, there will be no censoring comments of people who don't agree!)

and for good measure, one more of his speeches:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLn0tMdXd_Q
Nov 14 2007 6:51PM
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lt.milo
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^you have to remember, by the time a new president is in office the withdrawal should have already happened.  I'm not sure why it is such a big issue.
Nov 16 2007 7:19AM
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lt.milo
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because I said to respect Ron Paul for his views rather than his public speaking skills?
Nov 16 2007 7:20AM
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Kornn101
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because u sound like a douche. at least thats what i get from all this crap.
Nov 16 2007 10:26AM
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jimmychung
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how is fiat currency a sham?? do you blame the government for taking this guy's personal coinage? did he expect those coins to actually be accepted as real money? that would be like paying for something at a grocery store buy giving them a hunk of metal that your promise is worth this much money. our economy has been based on fiat currency since its conception, the fact that by giving someone a certain amount of government issued money, you both have faith in its actual worth, and it works, why hate on it? do you want  us to go back to trading and bartering like nomads or cavemen?
Nov 16 2007 11:32AM
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Daver_BC
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john paul is my grandma's neighbor in palm springs haha
Nov 16 2007 12:06PM
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lt.milo
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iv done nothing to offend you.  stop giving me a reason to.
Nov 16 2007 12:18PM
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BrokenBones
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I used to think that Ron Paul was just an old radical idiot.  However, I've done an emence amount of research about various policies and what not, and he is NOT an idiot.  In fact, he is extremely intelligent and his policies make sense.  He truly wants whats best for the average American citizen.
Nov 16 2007 12:20PM
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FilmingBitch
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Note: snide allusion
That is to say, the fact that you bolded it and alluded to another thread. It's fine to respect him for his views, but he needs a way to say his views does he not? The two go hand-in-hand.
Nov 16 2007 1:05PM
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lt.milo
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Stephen Hawking talks through a computer and is the most famous scientist of modern day.
Nov 16 2007 1:07PM
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Casey
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how are you going to get rid of that many people?? It sounds like a project for big government to me. I mean its easy to say that we would deport all these people. But no one wants to address how ungodly expensive, as well as completely invasive to the rightful citizens that would be (if its even possible to do in the first place). It sounds pretty Nazi-esque to me. Where's the market solution from Ron Paul?! come on people.

Nov 16 2007 1:15PM
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jimmychung
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i think that's different because he has a disease that does not allow him to speak otherwise. people listen to him because they know that he knows his shit, but they also know that he has a disease that forces him to talk through a computer. if someone just sucks at speaking for no reason (ex. bush), then it's going to be harder to take him seriously and/or respect him. i'm not saying ron paul sucks at speaking, he's a perfectly decent speaker, i'm just supporting filmbitch's point that the two really do coincide.
Nov 16 2007 1:18PM
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Casey
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well, because faith in the government is the ONLY thing that makes it work. If China one day is like, fuck you guys we're not loaning you any more money, and we want you to pay up on your debt to us... the whole world would collapse. I mean its not really forseeable, but still its a fragile house of cards that we all rely on.
Nov 16 2007 1:19PM
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jimmychung
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it has worked for so long, i don't see why we should suddenly lose faith in it now. i understand if there was some foreseeable reason to, but there is none.
Nov 16 2007 1:24PM
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lt.milo
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I see what you are saying/

I was alluding to the thread about Obama only because JD said we should like Obama because he speaks well.  Sure the two coincide, but I don't like someone for his public speaking skills, I like him for what he has to say.
Nov 16 2007 1:25PM
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jimmychung
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it certainly not a characteristic that one should solely base their vote on, but it's still a good trait to have.
Nov 16 2007 2:07PM
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lt.milo
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and thats true as well
Nov 16 2007 4:32PM
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SkiMN
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That is my biggest problem.  Internet sensation maybe, but a mainstream, obviously electable candidate he is not. My parents hadn't even heard of him. If I had two votes I would shoot one his way. If he got a reasonable number in some reputable poles id be on board. As it is, all I see here is an internet sensation. I love his ideas, best candidate out there right now IMO, but I feel like I need to vote for the most favorable candidate with a chance to win the presidency.
Nov 16 2007 9:02PM
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lt.milo
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I know how you feel, but that one vote for another candidate won't do anything either.  In my opinion, I would have a very hard time voting for Guliani, Romney, Clinton, or Obama.  I don't see it this way, but some do: if you can get the other candidates to at least realize that Ron Paul is popular, they may adopt some of his ideas.  Wishful thinking, I know.

Still, I'm not sure how many people heard the Ron Paul story on NPR.  When they interviewed the people in charge of the New Hampshire polls, they said this month, Ron Paul supporters will be VERY pleasantly surprised.  He now has three commercials going on there and if he can get a good percentage of New Hampshire, people who have the same fears as you would probably lean towards a vote for Dr. Paul.  I really think he has a legit chance.
Nov 16 2007 9:26PM
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SkiMN
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You kinda brought up the number one problem with politics these days though, there aren't any good candidates to vote for. Every election I can remember has been a matter of picking the lesser of the two assholes to be president.

If I think Ron Paul stands a snowballs chance in hell id vote for him, at least then I could feel good about who I voted for. At this point, not happening.

I don't have a huge problem with Obama, I'd rather he get the democratic nomination than Clinton. I'd rather have a democrat in office than a republican at this point, just because its time for a change, the neocons are all pricks. Problem is if Hillary gets the nomination, who the heck can the average American vote for. Way too many people have a huge problem with Hilary. I think a lot of republican voters might consider a switch at this point but not if she gets the nomination.
Nov 16 2007 10:26PM
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lt.milo
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you bring up some good points.  Every one of the top runners does suck and its been like this for a while.

Personally, Obama is on about the same level as Hilary in terms of who I would vote for.  I would rather stay hoe at that point.  As of right now, I also think a democratic president is going to be in office.  I am just giving Ron Paul more than a snowball's chance in hell.  He's got some time.  Lets say he get %10 of New Hampshire.  He also has a shot at some big numbers in Iowa because all the candidates debate there all day and that is definitely one of Dr. Paul's strong points.  So big numbers early on get the nation thinking and we have a contender on our hands. 

ya ya, i know, wishful thinking.
Nov 16 2007 10:38PM
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Rez4frederick
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Recent Ron Paul  Interview from a las vegas Radio station.
http://freeman4liberty.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-paul-interview-on-kdwn-in-las-vegas.html-Some really tough questions that are answered very clearly.  I definitely notice how Ron Paul gets the really hard questions, its a good sign.  People are very curious about his intelligent perspective. 

Nov 16 2007 11:32PM
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FilmingBitch
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Totally out of the left field - people don't vote on how famous scientists are. His handicaps are one of the things that make him even more remarkable.
I am not going to get into a debate here, because personally, I don't care much for politics and even then I'd rather only worry about my own country's.
Although Stephen Hawking is a subject I would talk about, since I am avidly into astro-physics and he has some very interesting theories and such.

I am also all for respect.
Nov 18 2007 1:28PM
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lt.milo
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^look up a few posts, I said that you have a point, and while it is not very important, it does help.

(on the other hand i personally think Stephen Hawking is severely over-hyped, but again, topic for another discussion.)
Nov 18 2007 1:38PM
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seven7five
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I agree besides the "radical idiot" part. I challenge everyone to watch a presidential debates and INTELLIGENTLY DECIDE for yourself who is the better candidate. Ron Paul is unwavering in his views, cites facts and history while the other candidates use terms like "9/11" and "terrorism" to envoke emotional fear than actually talking about solving the problem. Don't be another ignorant American and do your OWN research. Listening to NBC, ABC, and especially FOX NEWS IS NOT RESEARCH!!! Watch the debates and see how LOGICAL and PASSIONATE Ron Paul is compared to other candidates:

-Nov. 28, 2007 - RPOF, CNN and YouTube/Google debate at the Mahaffey Theater at the Progress Energy Center for Performing Arts in St. Petersburg FL

-Dec. 3, 2007 - NPR/Iowa Public Radio Republican debate at the State Historical Society of Iowa building in Des Moines, IA

-Dec. 9, 2007 - Univision Network Presidential Forum at the University of Miami in Coral Gables, FL.

-Dec. 13, 2007 - The Des Moines Register Democratic Presidential Debate at Iowa Public Television's Maytag Auditorium in Johnston.

PEOPLE, our civil liberties and freedoms in general is in jeopardy because of the Military Commissions Act and the Patriot Act. Look up "magna carta" or "habeous corpus" and see how our freedoms are being taken slowly under our noses. See how "NAFTA" and the Real ID Act are ruining America's soverenty and all these issues, RON PAUL is against! All I ask is do a little research for yourself because "the truth will set us free"... Here is an article that covers some unfairly unmetioned current event articles:

http://www.newsreview.com/reno/Content?oid=598554

RON PAUL '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 20 2007 6:40AM
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lt.milo
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ahaha this is great, i just saw Drew Carey supporting Ron Paul. 
Nov 24 2007 8:31PM
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ax_murderer
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Withdrawing all troops right now would be a very stupid thing to do right now in my opinion. Very stupid.
Nov 24 2007 8:42PM
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[Toby]
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i dont like ron paul because i am liberal so many of his views dont conicde with mine. However he awsome and one of the best things that happens in politics, hes a canidate thats real. Watching the debates he was great, On the question of would you attack a country without congress's approval most canidates said they would have to talk to their lawyers, he seemingly flabergasted stated that of course he woudnt because the constition stated he was alowed to.
I dont want a republican as president but if one does get elected i hope its him.
Nov 24 2007 8:52PM
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lt.milo
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who cares, by the time he would be in office they would almost all be out of iraq
Nov 24 2007 8:54PM
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[Toby]
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thats not true, soliders will be there for years no matter whos president. Ron Paul probably would take them out unlike even any democratic canidate
Nov 24 2007 8:58PM
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lt.milo
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^ not really.  by then we will have at least started a troop with drawl.
Nov 24 2007 9:15PM
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grown-ninja
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-Aenigma

MAKE THAT THREE
Nov 26 2007 10:39AM
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Rez4frederick
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http://www.thecaseforronpaul.com

Go here.  This is an excellent site that explains clearly all about Ron Paul  and how legit he is.  It was made by one of his supporters not affiliated with the campaign.
Dec 1 2007 12:37PM
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Rez4frederick
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Dec 6 2007 5:11PM
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Rez4frederick
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Dec 6 2007 5:12PM
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Nico_G
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Vote Ron Obama
Dec 6 2007 7:24PM
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Meh42
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Word.  Whichever one of them makes it to the final race gets my vote.
Dec 6 2007 8:17PM
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