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How big of a deal is a backflip?

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.Eion
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I don't get it... The kids around my area, think their impossible! I think its reasonable! I don't see a problem with it other than the commitment...
Nov 11 2007 9:37PM
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Piste.Off
Posts: 11586 - Karma: 1,861
"hey do you ski on those trick skis"
"yes"
"can you BACKFLIP????"

backflips arent a big deal
Nov 11 2007 9:39PM
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*rkp*
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I basically view them as a novelty trick that you bust out when you want to make people laugh.
Nov 11 2007 9:40PM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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i haven't done one yet but i don't think it would be that hard cause i can do them off the ground, yeah as you said the commiting to it is the hardest part.
Nov 11 2007 9:42PM
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.Eion
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Ok, but in terms of how hard. Like, no one around here does them. NO ONE! and I see them as a great oppertunity to stand out abit.

I do see them as funny though, considering Theres a few kids around here pulling cork 7's and 9's...
Nov 11 2007 9:42PM
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dylansiggers
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haha so true
Nov 11 2007 9:43PM
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CRL
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Backflips are a HUGE deal!!


Nov 11 2007 9:43PM
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BigJew
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I "attempted" them before I could 3 and my friend landed 1 before his first 3. They're really really easy on the right jump, but a sure croud pleaser. They're pretty scary on park style floaty jumps.
Nov 11 2007 9:47PM
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kenevil
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most people say backies are easier than 3's
Nov 11 2007 9:47PM
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.Eion
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I think there going to be!
Nov 11 2007 9:52PM
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SirFryanator
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It might sound harsh...but it's not a big deal to people who can't do them. Unless your friend is learning them and lands one, then you gotta be stoked for him.
Nov 11 2007 9:55PM
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SirFryanator
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excuse me, not a big deal to people who CAN do them.
Nov 11 2007 9:56PM
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[]Soul_Steeze[]
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werd!

cuz your folling your normal axis of symetry...your just rotating straight backwards

a 3, you have to spin against what feels level/normal for you

in other words backies are easier physically, but harder mentally


just sack up and throw it...

it took me the longest time to finally throw my first one and now its nothin

its like ridin a bike...once you do it once, you'll have it dialed in the rest of your life!!! (assuming you dont have a CR johnson injury and have to re learn how to ski)
Nov 11 2007 9:59PM
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.Eion
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Yeah, I really have to throw one this year. Is anyone from NEPA?
Nov 11 2007 10:00PM
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babujib
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every single charlift ride
Nov 11 2007 10:01PM
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Hairmetaler
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peeople think there amazing but there really not that hard
Nov 11 2007 10:05PM
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philipc
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backflips are crowd pleasers

and theyre not easier than threes
Nov 11 2007 10:06PM
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[]Soul_Steeze[]
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exactly

its a good one to have in your bag of tricks for when your just messin around and chillin and theyr happens to be a crowd in the park lol
Nov 11 2007 10:06PM
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DaleT
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yo what the fuck just do a backflip
Nov 11 2007 10:06PM
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freshlyDIPPED
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not that big
Nov 11 2007 10:13PM
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comeatmebro
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i can't do them, i am so afraid of backflips. i will try pretty much anything else but that, being reasonable of course. if i see someone do them, no it's not that big of a deal. i've seen my cousin do them off a 4 foot mound of snow naturally just there. i'd rather see a steezy 5 than a backflip anyday...
Nov 11 2007 10:29PM
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hawaiiansteeze
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this is my biggest obsticle this year i need to try them but im gona build a jump at my friend VT house to try it first before it try it on a "normal park jump"

Nov 11 2007 10:34PM
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Literature
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I would like to be able to do them off of anything. This is my goal for this year.
Nov 11 2007 10:36PM
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-Kieran-
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so r they harder of a 30ft jump cause u have to go slow or u will over rotate?
Nov 12 2007 12:00AM
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holyDINOSAURS
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its all about judging the speed of the rotation and the angle of the lip. if you lay it out nice its really easy to correct in the air.
Nov 12 2007 2:13AM
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zylstra
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not a big deal.....make your own jump with a huge soft landing. i'm from the midwest so for me this was just a huge shoveled pile of pow. then huck until you land it and then perfect it and then bring it to some real jumps when they're real nice and comfy.
Nov 12 2007 6:34AM
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o0Pape0o
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Some people are too scared to try backflip, but once you did it one time, there is no prob doing it again and again

Nov 12 2007 9:21AM
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Caleb_F
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For the record...Backs aren't easier than threes (many people can do a 3 just skiing down the hill.  Haven't seen any backs that way yet...), but they aren't as difficult as many people think. 

For those of you looking to try them, try to get some practice on a trampoline or diving board before taking them to the snow.  That will help a lot.  On the snow, it's about commitment and timing.  Choose a jump that has quite a bit of pop and preferably a soft landing.  You don't need to go huge.  As you pop off the lip, throw your head back, like you're trying to look at your tails. (I would throw your arms up and back as well if it is your first, just to make sure you get around.)  From there, just look for your landing and it should come around.  The big thing is dont' chicken out or you'll get stuck upside down.  COMMIT!  As for controling your rotation, it is based on how hard you throw and how tight you are in the air.  If you tuck, you'll spin fast.  If you lay it out, it will be slow.  Those are the basics...
Nov 12 2007 11:11AM
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ChuckNorris
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Find the right jump. I've never tried one off of a park jump. It seems like it would be hard to rotate exaclty the right amount with that much time in the air. I found a small steep jump in the trees at breck. The landing was pretty soft and not very steep. I landed the second one I tried  and did a few more that day. I never took a bad fall either. I slightly over rated and back slapped on soft snow. I also slightly under rotated and double ejected. As long as you commit you are not going to get hurt. I want to try on in the park this year.
Nov 12 2007 12:37PM
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[]Soul_Steeze[]
Posts: 2357 - Karma: 60

this guy knows what hes talkin bout...

listen to him, blast some metal on your ipod, and just commit, commit, commit!!!

id say at least 60-70% of the difficulty factor of a backflip comes from your own fear of crashin.

and thats just the thing, if you tell yourself you can do it and fully commit to it, you will almost certainly get it first try, or second....it takes a few to get the rotation and timing down..



hope that helps

and buildin a kicker into some pow for the first couple would be adviseable before you take it straight to the park.

good luck bro and get it on video so when you make that backie your bitch, you can post it here and get some crazy props for throwin your first backflip!!!

Nov 12 2007 12:56PM
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eheath
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I did my first one in 7th grade, and I haven't done one since like 9th grade. I really want to do one again now.
Nov 12 2007 12:57PM
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I-Ski-AK
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typical chair ride with a never ever...
Nov 12 2007 1:03PM
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skiP.E.I.
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I know people that don't regularly ski or snowboard and don't know shit all about freestyle or anything and they can do backflips.

Nov 12 2007 2:04PM
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cracko
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haha i feel the exact same way.
Nov 12 2007 4:26PM
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jergriff
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over rated haha..

try to find a nice lil lip under a lift somewhere is a shurrr crowd pleaser... just know how to do them on a tramp first. haha
Nov 12 2007 4:55PM
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scientist
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once you can get over the "holy shit, i will be upside-down" and the pop and motion, it IS easier than a 3. Even off of like rail jumps, id rather do a backie than a 3.
Nov 12 2007 5:28PM
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Avifarer
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backflips are always so sick no matter what.
whenever i see someone do one i get stoked
Nov 12 2007 5:30PM
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SHREDDY
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backflips are prolly the funnest things to do...theyre definately a novelty/crowd pleaser but really not a big deal over all...through my first 2 backflips this year today at sunday river off a little jump...
Nov 12 2007 6:10PM
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ValPow
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its the same as your first 3 5 7 etc. just believe you are gonna pull it iff and you will be there, dont doubt yourself in the run in,

the steeper the lip the better
Nov 12 2007 6:10PM
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[]Soul_Steeze[]
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not always true but yea....a kicker wit some lip on it helps initiate the rotation
Nov 12 2007 7:03PM
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GUZ
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i love JP Auclairs huge backflip off the kicker in the whistler segment of yeah dude
Nov 12 2007 7:23PM
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*monsterskier*
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a backflip? i heard that all u have to do is, when u hit the lip, get a lil air and lean back
Nov 12 2007 7:23PM
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Bsand
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is it easier to do them on a quarter pipe without popping and ladding on top the flat or just a steep jump
Nov 15 2007 10:00PM
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landonn
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i think they are easy but commitment is the biggest issue
Nov 15 2007 10:04PM
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solitaryman
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i landed on my head, forgeting to look back... but imma learn them.
Nov 15 2007 10:10PM
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emopoppins
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phil c does them good.
Nov 15 2007 10:38PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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I am determined to do them this year too...I can do double backs on the tramp but can't seem to get up the nerve to throw one on skis. My biggest worry is if I am about to under rotate is there a way I can speed up my spin, like tucking on the tramp.
Nov 15 2007 11:45PM
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slimbruddah
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first backflip you ever do man, you will be so stoked
Nov 15 2007 11:52PM
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mastamike6969
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Back flips are like a gateway drug.  Once you do one, you're probably gonna try other inverted shit, and maybe LSD.  Except you probably won't cook a baby in the oven for thanksgiving from doing D-spin.
Nov 15 2007 11:55PM
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james44
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dude i love backs they are easy and sooooooo fun
Nov 16 2007 12:10AM
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mtbakerteacher
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To whoever says backs aren't easier than 3's, you don't know what you're talking about. As long as you can gain enough air to be about half as tall as you are, you can do a backflip if you huck it enough. While 3's can be done off any little thing, off a JUMP, back's are certainly easier. 3's take practice, back's are just intuitive.
Nov 16 2007 12:20AM
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