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Global Warming

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JCsteezy
Posts: 758 - Karma: 211
Our planet is being killed by us. We are killing the earth we stand on. Soon, the artic ice sheets will, the oceans will rise, there will befood shortages, and no skiing. Global warming has already begun. On the east coast it is easy to see. Winters becoming shorter, summers long, ect. There are so many little things that we can do to stop this. Simple, easy things, that would only take seconds from your day. It's our planet, it's our choice. Do you want to keep skiing? Do this not for me, but for yourself... 1. carpool with friends when you go skiing or go anywhere 2. walk, ride a bike, take a bus, anything to use less gas 3. use energy efficient cars, appliences, anything that saves energy 4. recyle 5. use solar energy 6. and go to www.globalwarming.org Thank You
Oct 27 2007 10:32PM
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Therealbillus
Posts: 198 - Karma: 10
Yeah, what the fuck were you thinking.  When water evaporates it is a physical change, not chemical.  It can't change it's composition from H2O to CO2 magically.
Nov 20 2007 7:49PM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
word ..
Nov 20 2007 9:14PM
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molsongolden
Posts: 1649 - Karma: 162
are you a fucking moron or were you being sarcastic. 

i like how you say that 90% of man made co2 is from power plants and then from volcanoes. i didnt know volcanic eruptions were man made. 

Oh looking at your graph is probably better than reading the articles and research by scientists who say that co2 follows temperature not the other way around.  There are multiple articles explaining how and why co2 levels trail temperature. 

did you read any of the quotes or articles i posted? 

14% of co2 in the atmosphere is from burning fossil fuels. co2 is only .03 percent of the atmosphere

and the oceans do release co2 when they warm. they hold the majority of co2 on the planet and are constantly releasing co2 into the atmosphere and absorbing co2.  all of you who laugh about or argue the fact that warmer oceans release co2 are idiots. no h20 is not becoming co2 fuckwad evaporation is not resulting in co2. individual water molecules are not releasing co2, the oceans are.








Nov 21 2007 1:42AM
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ElliottP
Posts: 606 - Karma: 12
stop doing kangaroo flips, that will help to..


but seriously, palmer glacier on hood has reduced to practically nothing. its absurd.

take it seriously, even though the world is gonna end Dec 21st 2012

yeah, carpool to the MTN. DONT USE ETHONOL, the process to grow the corn is just as bad... if not worse than using fossil fuels directly, get solar pannels, go off the grid, and drive an electric car. or the closest you can get. or just move to a ski town where you can walk to the gondola.


Nov 21 2007 2:27AM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21061 - Karma: 8,366
yeah but what people need to realize is that the earth is all interconnected works in cycles.  Upsetting one cycle upsets other cycles.  Putting the amount of excess CO2 into the atmostphere that we do may seem trivial, but it is enough to change the pattern of the cycles.  And using what you said. Yes, CO2 may have trailed heat on graphs of past temperatures, but (i dont know this for a fact) the amount of CO2 we have put into the atmosphere in the past 150 years could be enough to change that cycle too. 

Another thing people need to realize is that they need to see past the "warming" part of global warming and look more directly at it as "global environmental destruction".
Nov 21 2007 3:04AM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
Molsongolden, It's not my graph u retard, didnt you read the part where I said that it's from science mag??

And I know that there is a CO2 cycle between oceans and athmosphere, but it's got nothing to do with temperature. As you may know, currently we are on a "La niña" ocean phenomenom, that means cold water, THEN WHY THE FUCK THIS MONTH THE CO2 LEVELS ARE ON A DECADE RECORD?????!!  

read something retard, and show me a VALID source saying that CO2 is released from hot water ...
Nov 21 2007 8:17AM
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CRL
Posts: 67 - Karma: 122
Global Warming is no joke!!!
Nov 21 2007 9:36AM
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molsongolden
Posts: 1649 - Karma: 162
you referred to it as "your" graph moron.  show us some of your sources instead of jsut saying "totally sourced on serious scientists"
Nov 21 2007 2:49PM
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Switchin_Dirty
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 107
I'm glad this is becoming an issue. I posted about this a couple of weeks ago and nobody responded.

global warming is shortening our winters, do whatever you can do reduce your fossil fuel output.
Nov 21 2007 3:35PM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
Just a fast one Jerk ....

http://globalwarming.chemcept.co.uk/gw1.htm

got 1000 more for your stupid polluted ass
Nov 21 2007 8:06PM
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jeremy.g
Posts: 4931 - Karma: 459
what the fuck are u talking about, jeff_lo? weather and earthquakes have absolutly no conection.
Nov 22 2007 1:22AM
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bigwhite^rocker
Posts: 70 - Karma: 10
were loosing snow because of it . it sucks
Nov 22 2007 10:16PM
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B.Snow
Posts: 1859 - Karma: 92
fuck it i don't care ... i'll probably get another 20 years of decent skiing in, and i'll defineatly live a full life (maybe not) but my death defineatly wont be caused by global warming. So fuck it 
Nov 22 2007 10:49PM
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molsongolden
Posts: 1649 - Karma: 162
you are an idiot. did you even read that link you poste.

"The correlation is striking but does not prove that increasing carbon dioxide causes increasing temperatures. A-priori, it is equally possible that increasing temperatures cause increased carbon dioxide concentrations. Over 95% of the accessible environmental carbon dioxide is dissolved in the oceans (mostly as bicarbonate ions). It is well known that all gas solubilities in liquids are temperature dependent. Gas solubilities are higher at low temperatures and lower at high temperatures. The effect has been known for centuries and, for low gas concentrations, is correlated by a version of the Clausius-Clapeyron equation. The equation was initially derived during the 1830’s. It was one of the early successes for the science of chemical thermodynamics. It has been extensively tested for thousands of liquid/gas combinations. It is also well known that the effect applies in the oceans. Carbon dioxide dissolves in the cold polar seas from where it is carried down by deep ocean currents. As the currents rise towards the equator, the seas warm, the solubility becomes less, and the carbon dioxide is discharged into the atmosphere. This mechanism transports gigatonnes of carbon dioxide per annum. Thus, it is possible that the correlation simply results from the fact that when the global temperatures are low, carbon dioxide dissolves in the oceans and its concentration in the atmosphere is correspondingly reduced. Similarly, when global temperatures rise, the solubility decreases and carbon dioxide is discharged to the atmosphere. We explore the extent to which the correlation of Figure 1 can be explained by such vapour-liquid equilibrium effects."

your own source just contradicted what you have been arguing and said what i have been trying to tell you. that graph doesnt show co2 caushing temperature change it just as easily shows temperture driving co2 and your link also says what ive been trying to explain to you which is that warmer temperatures cause the oceansto release more co2 which explains why the higher temps on the graph are mirrored by co2 increases 
Nov 23 2007 12:25AM
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molsongolden
Posts: 1649 - Karma: 162
try reading your sources before being a cocky tool because you just disproved your own stupid claims

"We conclude that the ice-core carbon-dioxide data prove conclusively that in geological time atmospheric carbon dioxide levels are determined by temperature."

co2 determined by temperature. not co2 causing temperature.  point proven. the end 
Nov 23 2007 12:38AM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
U dont need to read shit idiot, its just a matter of seeing wich curve goes up and down first and wich one follows. Pure and simple visual analisys, best ther is, clearly CO2 curve moves first. Period.
Nov 23 2007 9:34AM
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molsongolden
Posts: 1649 - Karma: 162
you are an idiot. the graph is a approximate attempt to plot data points. the stuff you read is the actual daa and explanations. you have lost. the end
Nov 26 2007 1:12AM
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Roussel
Posts: 686 - Karma: 41
world temperature fluctuations occur in patterns, sort of a big up and down on a graph.

i read some research that says we are nearing the end of a inter-ice age period, and therefore SUPPOSED to be in a cooling trend, but we are not, and temperatures are rising.

apparently a big hint for this is glaciers. in a cooling trend, glaciers would be slowly expanding because the colder winter would add to the ice/snow, the last time this happened was 1977 i believe.

i'll try to dig up that info for you.
Dec 5 2007 11:55AM
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ThaLorax
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another thing I forgot to mention that I haven't seen anybody here even put a word too: the Sun's impact on global warming.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/18/wsun18.xml
Dec 10 2007 1:06AM
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