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Weight Gaining Supplements - Do They Work?

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wazawski
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I weigh like 148 ish right now and wouldn't mind putting on a few pounds....i eat a shitload of fast foods and shit but i can't gain weight at all...i go to the gym a few times a week but i know once ski season starts i probably won't be going much....my question is do those weight gaining formulas work? i don't want to gain a ridiculous amount of wight, maybe like 20 pounds...anyone have any experience with them?
Oct 26 2007 8:02AM
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2+2=5
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you mean like whey powder?
Oct 26 2007 8:19AM
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kepler.
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first, i wouldn't recommend eating fast food to gain weight. it is very unhealthy and can really cause problems if thats your main source of protein and carbohydrates. second, i'd really recommend asking for an invite to the lifters cult, even if you don't plan on taking weightlifting seriously, they still have a lot of good advice for weight gaining.

but my personal experiece is a good one with whey protein. over the summer i gained about 10 lbs of pure muscle from drinking protein before and after weightlifting. and i thought nothing could help me gain weight. you get some weird bowel movements every once in a while but i'd really recommend trying it out.

lastly, do you really plan on gaining 20 lbs? thats a pretty big task to do
Oct 26 2007 9:18AM
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Schoening
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how tall are you?
Oct 26 2007 9:27AM
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grapesoda
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as ben.p said eating fast food is not the way to gain weight. i used to lift and drink protein shakes a lot and it really helped me gain weight but it takes some time.  i drank a mass gainer called N-Large2, either in the morning or at night (it tasted similar to chocolate milk) and then after i went to the gym i would drink muscle milk which also tastes pretty decent. i find that the chocolate flavored protein shakes are always the best.  pretty much in order to gain weight you need to intake MASSIVE amounts of protein and carbs, preferably combined with lifting.
Oct 26 2007 9:51AM
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lorida
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Yup, I'll 3rd that.

Weight gain and loss diets can pretty much be divided into 3 catagories;

Protein; Chicken, Turkey, Lean ground beef, Egg whites, Lean pork loin

Carbohydrates( Preferably LOW GI) ; Pumpernickle pread, stone ground 100% whole wheat bread, sweet potatoes, whole grain pasta

and lastly GOOD fats; Olive oil, almonds, other nuts


Start eating 6 or more times per day, ingesting LOTS of protein and carbs, and a bit of fat. Get yourself a real solid workout and stick with it.

Remember, weight training is 60-70% diet, 20-30% working out, and 10% rest.

I'm on my second week of my new diet, strictly revolving around leaning out. My trainer wants me down to 7% body fat, and then I'm going to start ingesting mass amounts of protein and carbs, to help me get BUFF. I can't wait.
Oct 26 2007 10:16AM
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wazawski
Posts: 756 - Karma: 159
i heard eating something ever couple of hours or so is a good way to gain weight fast....not like a full meal every hour just like a protein bar or two....is that true?...if so, wut are good cheap things i should get? (in college and kinda poor) i'll try and stick with the gym, i just know once ski season starts i'll be gone all day and be really tired afterwards
Oct 26 2007 10:35AM
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Onlyexstasy
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You want to eat on a consistent basis......don't take in a protein bar all the time, just eat 5-6 several balanced small meals a day.  You want to take protein supplementation in the form of whey protein when you wake up in the morning(since you start burning protein storage upon waking), within 45 minutes after you exercise (critical to take in protein during that time period), and also possibly consider soy protein before you go to bed(its a slow release protein, so it will fuel your muscles when you are sleeping).  Jamming your body full of protein supplements is really bad on your kidneys, if you follow the above and take in 5-6 balanced meals you will be taking in enough protein to build lean mass.  Eat lots of COMPLEX carbs, lean meat (white fish, chicken breast/tenderloins, tuna fish, etc), and vegetables/fruit for an oxygen balance. 
I am 5ft 10 and weigh 195lbs, with 8 % body fat.
Heres my diet on a usual school day
Breakfast:
12 Eggs, protein shake with three scoops, wheat toast, grapefruit
Snack
Peanut Butter sandwich on wheat, glass of milk, banana
Lunch:
Tuna Fish sandwich, Salad, water
Snack:
Yogurt, banana
Post lift:
Protein Shake
Snack: 2 chicken breasts, 3 potatoes
Dinner:
4 Fillets of Tilapia, 2 potatoes
PreBedtime:
Soy Protein Shake


Also its crucial you take in water on a consistent basis throughout your day
Oct 26 2007 10:51AM
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wynnyk
Posts: 1638 - Karma: 555
Why would you want to gain weight?
Oct 26 2007 11:12AM
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twintipteles
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Alot of the kashi products are great for eating between meals, since they have high protein and fiber contents and I think all of them are entirely whole grains. (Don't quote me on that though, i'm sure there are kashi products i haven't tried.)
Oct 26 2007 11:36AM
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Monkyboy
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The only thing these supplements do is help you to pack on fat.  Just lift weights and eat healthy foods.  As you get older and your metabolism slows a bit you will pack on some lean muscle in all the right places.  Trust me, the ladies will like that a lot more than if you look flabby, and you'll be in a better position than you would be in if you had to lose that shit - not to mention healthier and feeling better with more energy.  There are no shortcuts.  Don't give your money to the supplement hucksters, they are all liars and theives.
Oct 26 2007 11:48AM
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beer.
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I am in the same position as you.  I ate a very high protein/high calorie (the good kind, all complex carbs) diet one summer and lifted a decent amount.  I gained 10 lbs of muscle which is actually a lot for one summer of lifting as a hard gainer (thats what they call us skinny folk)  but more than putting on weight, I got waaaay stronger, which made me feel better.  of course it really only made me be able to lift the amount of weight an average person can, but thats good when you are thin if you think about it

the only problem is I went on vacation and was surfing and hiking a lot and I lost almost all the weight because I couldnt keep the carb intake up with the very high amount of cardio I was doing.

as soon as i buy a new weight set, my old one broke, I am gonna start lifting again.  but there are some supplements that are not BS that can help you.

-a good enzyme, to help digest the mass gainer protein you will be drinking.  you need this to avoid nasty shits
-L glutamine, helps guard against muscle cannibalization.  I dont know if it works, but muscle cannibalization is your biggest enemy, and its good for other things like your heart, so why not take it?
-tribulex, a natural testosterone booster.  its some herb that apparently works, and its not expensive if you buy it online.  why not try it?  only problem is you also get more acne, oh well
-creatine, does it hurt you?  probably not, its not shown to be harmful if you drink plenty of water and take the right amount.  I have never used it but I am sure it could help
-cannabis, because after you lift a good toke will help you unwind


those ones are pretty straightforward, I have looked them up online and they do what they are supposed to.  the ingredients are simple and not kept secret or disputed, all that shit should work on some level, even if the effects arent amazing.  oh and take vitamin b of course
Oct 26 2007 12:01PM
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YourExcellency
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Dude screw gaining weight. I weigh 200lbs and even though it's all muscle it is still extra weight that needs to be lugged around no matter what I'm doing. Running, biking, skiing, surfing, climbing, ect ect. Imagine doing everything you love doing with a 50lbs weight strapped on your back. Sure I have much more strength but if you love doing the things I love doing then flexibility, quickness, endurance, speed, and staminia are all much much more important qualities. Trust me, tweaking your ankle or wrist when you have 150 lbs of force against it is one thing but it is quite another with 200lbs. Every extra pound is EXPONENTIALLY  more force when you factor speed in. Say you go up for a jump, f it up, and come down to land on your shoulder.  Your shoulder enduring 200lbs at 20mph is a LOT more (a whole lot more then a mere 50lbs)  then 150lbs at 20mph. Stay light and flexibile, it is much better for you in this sport.
Oct 26 2007 12:32PM
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da-bling
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Lift + Whey protien + glutamine.... all u need
Oct 26 2007 12:35PM
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Monkyboy
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This is SOOOOOO true!  I was a bodybuilder in my 30's and got up to 225 (I am 5'11") with 5% body fat.  I was as into skiing then as I am now, but I am a hell of a lot better now at 185 - lighter, quicker, and even though not as strong, my strength to body weight ratio means that functionally I can do so much more than I could before.  I would never even have considered rock climbing as a body builder - too much extra body mass to lug around.  And kayaking?  Shit, I was so top heavy then I'd probably be capsizing all the time.  Skiing, most of all, is much better now (and not just because of shaped skis).  My knees suffer a lot less from the bumps and I am more agile, and as menitoned above, falling hurts a lot less (mass x. acceleration = force of impact in a fall - it's just physics!)

As a side note, back in my 30's I was obsessive about what I ate and getting to the gym...so despite looking good I was kinda socially isolated and not a happy person inside.  In my 40's now I feel ten years younger than I felt in my 30's.

Just eat sensibly and stay active and devote your time to being a good friend and a good person and developing your skillz.  It's keep you youthful and happy.  Trust me on this one.
Oct 26 2007 12:42PM
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Download-My-Apps
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Don't be stupid.

If you're naturally skinny then who care, these protein diets are unhealthy and not natural.148 isn't that small.

You'll gain weight once your metabolism slows down and will be wishing you were still skinny.
Oct 26 2007 12:44PM
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Monkyboy
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What a Wookie!
Oct 26 2007 1:08PM
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YourExcellency
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There is one advantage to skiing being heavy though, but it's not in the park. When I was up to 240 I could just plow through ANYTHING with stiff skis. I mean I could straighline cruddy rutted moguls on a 55 degree chute like it was nothing. I'd fly 60mph through slop and rutts at the end of the day after the main trails were just piles of crap and I'd cutt through everything like butter through a knife without doing a thing. Lighter guys would get thrown around like a rag doll trying that. Anyways that's about the only advantage in skiing being big and powerful is that you can just overpower terrain instead of actually ski it but you can forget about finesse in the park. 
Oct 26 2007 2:36PM
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Monkyboy
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Not to mention that skiing like that is a bad habit to get into because it only works until it doesn't - sooner or later the mountain is going to throw something in your path that is bigger and more immovable that you are - it's inevitable - we are talking about a mountain here (with rocks, tress, etc.)  Better to condition yourself to ski the terrain with finesse, especially since the days of long, stiff striaght skis are a thing of the past.
Oct 26 2007 2:54PM
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BigJew
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So you eat a dozen eggs for breakfast?
Oct 26 2007 3:28PM
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DDrem.
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over the summer i was lifting everyday and taking NO-xplode, nitrix, and whey protein. i put on 25 pounds of all muscle and made me happy.

then i got really sick and had diarhea for 32 days and lost 17 pounds. i was really upset, but i started taking the stuff again and ive put on like 10 more pounds.

just make sure you balance exercise, supplements, and diet right and you should put on weight over time
Oct 26 2007 3:28PM
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2+2=5
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yeah that seems a bit much. i think he meant 2
Oct 26 2007 4:05PM
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GANDALF
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take fast twitch before you work out. 
Oct 26 2007 4:55PM
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lorida
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My trainer eats 10 per day so.. 12 is possible.

You need a lot of eggs to get protein out of them.
Oct 29 2007 3:06AM
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whattheshit
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cottage cheese is another good slow release protein to eat before bed.
Oct 29 2007 3:18AM
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YourExcellency
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take meth before you work out
Oct 29 2007 12:41PM
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PhaedeD
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fuck gain weight lol since i fucked my shoulder up real bad i gained like 20 pounds lol im 10 weeks out of surgery now and running 5 days a week for like 15 minutes right now cause thats all i can make it because im out of shape.

i run to try and burn the fat and have started working out a lifting weights again because i hear when you lift weights your body will eat your fat too not just when you run. i also have been trying to eat a lot healthier now its hard sometimes being a 21 year old and all living with friends and being a lazy pot head that gets hungry lol. so i have been cutting back on the munchies and trying to eat a lot of like chicken turkey and veggies.


so like whats the fastest way to lose weight?
Oct 29 2007 12:54PM
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YourExcellency
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crack
Oct 29 2007 12:57PM
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PhaedeD
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tried it didnt really work i lost a few ounces because of my teeth falling out.

haha but ya i dunno im 5'9 177 or so right now im tryin to be back down to like 160
Oct 29 2007 1:02PM
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YourExcellency
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I'd just wait for the season to start here in the next few weeks and ski ski ski. Losing weight doing something you love is much easier then losing weight doing something that sucks (ie running).
Oct 29 2007 1:07PM
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twintipteles
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as far as losing weight, getting exercise early in the day, particularly aerobic stuff will really speed up your metabolism, so you'll burn through a lot more calories in the rest of the day, even during relatively inactive periods. Also all whole grains, no white breads, bagels etc.
Oct 29 2007 2:15PM
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JakeTheJibNinja
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protein pills

Oct 29 2007 5:11PM
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