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beer.
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first off, let me say I'm against guns and I think the world would be a better place without em.

but since they arent gonna be out of america any time soon, I do think it would be fun to have one. I know theyre expensive but I'm gonna be getting a lot of money in the upcoming months and I can spare it.

I've never shot a gun but my dad just got a .22 pistol (with a silencer, soooo badass) and I'm gonna shoot it this weekend. but I would probably like to get some type of SMG. I live in virginia so I can buy an uzi or mac, just not automatic.

anyways, which smg should i get? I was thinking a mac-10. they are supposed to be cheap and pretty easy to maintain, and reliable. any other suggestions? post some pics.

also, how hard is it to get it converted to full auto? I know this is illegal but I am just wondering.
Sep 19 2007 10:25PM
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CBROOKS
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i went and shot clay pigeons for the first time a couple months ago, shit is so fun. That was the first time I had ever shot a rifle.
Sep 19 2007 10:29PM
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TheButterHashira
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you shoot clay pigeons with a rifle? are you sure it was a shot gun because its very difficult to get one projectile to hit that little orange disk.
Sep 19 2007 10:32PM
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soulskier
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Sep 19 2007 10:32PM
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TheButterHashira
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but guns are good when they arent killing people. shooting at stuff and hunting is fun but war isnt really good for anything. hand guns are pretty bad because it makes it easy for violence to happen in urban areas
Sep 19 2007 10:33PM
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beer.
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people do it, but it takes mad skill

that picture is a mac 10 right?
Sep 19 2007 10:34PM
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soulskier
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yes
Sep 19 2007 10:35PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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soooo why would you want an smg?
Sep 19 2007 10:36PM
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TheButterHashira
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yeah i know but it doesnt make sense unless your just trying to show off you shooting skills. its not practical for hunting doves and stuff.
Sep 19 2007 10:37PM
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soulskier
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i dont know about reliability, but dont start off with one of those, start with a simple .22 rifle, my ruger is really reliable, and also would make a great starter gun, requires little maintenance, just a little cleaning every now and then
Sep 19 2007 10:37PM
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Mezmerize19
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To be gangsta. duhhh. dontcha know? You gotta sitck it in the back of your pants and then grab onto it cause its gonna fall out if you dont cause of the loose pants. then you gotta grab your crotch to hold up the front and walk around like that. Oh and never EVER, under any circumstances put the safety on. you never know when a brother gonna come at you.
Sep 19 2007 10:39PM
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00000000
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Man up and buy a rifle. I spent three years in the army (infantry) and I can tell you that the most fun type of (legal) weapon to fire is a rifle. I've used pistols, smgs, shotties, but nothing compares to the feel of a solid rifle.

Obviously some of the bigger (illegal) weapons are MUCH more fun, such as machine guns, mortars, grenade launchers, rocket launchers, claymores, etc...

But when it comes to legally purchasing a firearm, definitely don't pussy out and buy a smg.
Sep 19 2007 10:40PM
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Nicholas.
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yeah i was gonna say, for sure get an m16 or something.
Sep 19 2007 10:43PM
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CBROOKS
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yes, it was a shotgun not a rifle
Sep 19 2007 10:45PM
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DrStrangelove
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yah dude, def dont get a fucking mac 10 for your first firearm...ive been shooting my whole life, and ive got a glock, a sig, and a ruger revolver, as well as a romanian AK, and they're VERY dangerous guns to fuck with if you don't know what you're doing

additionally, a mac 10 isn't going to run super cheap, and i dont know about your particular gun shop, but they can also be quite hard to find. any further up the SMG food chain you go (MP5, thompsons, UMPs, etc) and you get into the $1000+ range

lastly, think about ammo costs. you might not care that a mac 10 costs around 4 or 5 hundo, but the bullets you buy just to shoot random shit are gonna be expensive, .22 rounds cost like 20 bucks for a box of 500...9mm and .45 (which is what almost all SMGs shoot) cost CONSIDERABLY more per box. if youre just getting a gun to plink around with and have a good time, get a .22, especially if it's your first gun.
Sep 19 2007 10:45PM
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Swan_Solo
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silencers are legal?
Sep 19 2007 10:46PM
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DrStrangelove
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oh, and you might also consider like a 20 gauge shotgun for your first gun, theyre also really fun (shooting skeet, bird hunting, whatever) and shotgun shells are really cheap compared to rifle and pistol rounds of higher calibers
Sep 19 2007 10:47PM
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Shpadoinkle
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i'm gettin this gun...except she will have a laser and a removable flashlight on it.
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a 22 is a really good starter gun and excellent for practice. either if it's a revolver or pistol. the 22 is really small for me now, but my 38 revolver is really comfy.

my best friend just got a custom ar-10 sniper rifle with bipod, scope and laser for 1600. that rifle is schweet.
Sep 19 2007 10:47PM
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DrStrangelove
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you never fail to rock my world
Sep 19 2007 10:48PM
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Shpadoinkle
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haha
Sep 19 2007 10:51PM
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13stripes
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first off let me just say you are the biggest contradictory piece of shit i have seen on this site

how can you say your against guns but they seem fun?
you are really retarded if you have fun that means you like them and therefore you are for them
Sep 19 2007 10:52PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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what the fuck is up you americans and your guns...like is it normal for most people to have a pistol?
Sep 19 2007 10:59PM
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Rez4frederick
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Guns dont kill people.  People kill people.
Sep 19 2007 11:00PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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what the fucks is up with americans and your guns? like is it normal for everyone to have a pistol? thats fucked up...
Sep 19 2007 11:00PM
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potato_man
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u are very contradictory. if you hate guns, you sgould never under any circumstance own one, you dip shit

but if you lied about being against them, get a mp5. best SMG ever

and you know that most of the people that reply have never, and probobly will never shoot a gun?(except me and a few chosen others)
Sep 19 2007 11:00PM
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beer.
Posts: 3096 - Karma: 44
first off let me say youre a fucking retard, did you READ what I WROTE? no, you didnt, fucktard, you just typed whatever your dumbass mind could concoct.

I'll explain again for you. I am against guns. but they arent going to get rid of them. I trust myself with a gun. I dont trust criminals with them. I would gladly give up my right to have a gun if everyone had to, but since thats not going to happen, why not get a gun if want one?

I'm against the meat industry, but me not eating meat wont do shit. so I eat it because its tasty.


back to the subject...I dont really want a rifle. well maybe an assault rifle but thats pricey.

I'd much rather get an smg. also I dont need a practice gun, I have my dad's .22 pistol which is perfect.
Sep 19 2007 11:02PM
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.scott.
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Walther p99 AS....mines in .40, which is a caliber that i really like.  oh yeah, James Bond carries this gun.
Walther p99
Sep 19 2007 11:03PM
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TheButterHashira
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ignorant judgmental person not every american has pistols. most americans that have guns have them for personal protection in the rare event they are attacked or for hunting. cops and some gangsters are the only peple packing pistols other than airsoft pistols young boys play with. you need to stop judging americans and thinking were gun crazy when we are not. its our right to have guns unlike most other things like driving which are priveledges.
Sep 19 2007 11:03PM
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beer.
Posts: 3096 - Karma: 44
I didnt lie about being against them. youre the dipshit if you cant understand what I mean.

MP5s arent are cool, but I like the mac cause its so gangsta.
Sep 19 2007 11:04PM
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Caveman.
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First off, what was the point of the beginning of your thread? Deep down you like guns but you don't want anyone on newschoolers to know? Thats pretty shitty that you try to put on 2 different fronts like that.

Besides that point; shotguns are super fun to shoot. You can shoot trap, skeet, or go bird hunting. I hunt grouse and waterfoul. I own a double barrel 16 gauge. 22s are fun to target shoot with or shoot gophers.
Sep 19 2007 11:06PM
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beer.
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no dude hes partially right we are gun-obsessed. theres a crazy amount of guns in this country, like enough for every person to have 4 or something like that.
Sep 19 2007 11:06PM
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Quinny
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I don't know your contemplating a CCW, but if you have any expectations of using a gun for self defense, 9mm is the smallest caliber that is recommended.
Sep 19 2007 11:07PM
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beer.
Posts: 3096 - Karma: 44
sorry what you just wrote is really dumb. if you were right, I wouldnt have written that beginning...think about it.

the concept of my view on guns is really easy to understand if youre not retarded.
Sep 19 2007 11:08PM
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.scott.
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i don't really see the any need to own a sub machine gun unless you want to train for SWAT or something like that.  usually, if you're "against guns" the only thing that would make sense is if you have one out of some kind of necessity.  SMG's are super fun, true, but just that.  It's purely recreational and has no use outside of a crime spree.  it's no good for defense, because in no way will you have it ready and with you most of the time, and its not like its for sport.  they exist for military and police purposes and that's about it.
Sep 19 2007 11:09PM
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Quinny
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I'm talking about handguns by the way.
Sep 19 2007 11:11PM
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TheButterHashira
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your pretty wrong dude but we are the highest but many hunters have several guns for different game

Ranking Country Licenced Weapons per 100 persons
(in civilian ownership)
1 US 90
2 Finland 39
3 Yemen 37
4 EU States 17.4
5 Uruguay 16.6
6 Intnl Global Average 16
7 Iraq 15
8 Lebanon 14
9 Turkey 12
10 Australia 11
11 South Africa 10.45
12 Jordan 9
14 Argentina 6.5
15 Israel 6
16 Chile 4.04
17 UK (Excl Ireland) 3.96
18 Brazil 2.7
19 Colombia 1.61
20 Paraguay 1.6
21 Mexico 1.4
22 Peru 0.85
23 Ecuador 0.29



but that doesnt make us obsessed with guns. we just excersice our rights to bear arms. i think owning a small militias armory of semi automatics is crazy but owning a rifle and shot gun for personal hunting is safe as long as you know gun safety, have a safe, and your not dick cheney
Sep 19 2007 11:11PM
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13stripes
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Alright Clearly if i posted i read im pretty sure if i wouldnt have a valid argument with you and your retarded ideals.

You dont under stand, your wrong if your against guns you dont buy guns, you dont talk about guns

Criminals get guns illegally, thats why there criminals, if you look at the records of countries that have banned and outlawed guns their crime rate has trippled because good people dont have guns to protect themselves

the only reason you seem to have for not liking guns is that you can afford what you want.
i really dont trust you with a gun, your the reason they past more and more laws and its harder and harder for people who love to shoot to get guns
Sep 19 2007 11:13PM
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Shpadoinkle
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if you ban guns then i can't have a gun. i want a gun. i need a gun. i'm gonna fuckin ski with a gun. hahaha.

people need to be educated on guns. that's the problem. well some of the problem at least. some people are just plain stupid.

guns don't kill people.
NO, but it sure does help.
Sep 19 2007 11:13PM
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Caveman.
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So... If you're against guns why would you bother owning one? shouldnt you be stealing guns so you can melt them down into a giant metallic peace sign? And I stand by my point. Your an insecure little fuck. Why would you need to write that beginning if you weren't concerned about what people on NS might think of your view on guns.
Sep 19 2007 11:13PM
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hurrisun
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ya jsut having guns for protection is wierd having them for hunting is normal...
Sep 19 2007 11:14PM
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potato_man
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you loser!

you dont get a gun cuz its gangasta, you fucktard(to use ur own word)!
Sep 19 2007 11:15PM
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Caveman.
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Ha ha yeah. I have 6 six guns... a .410, 16 gauge, 20 gauge, 3030, 350 remington mag and a .22
Sep 19 2007 11:17PM
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Ski_Unit_19
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now this is the shit that will fuck some hos up
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Sep 19 2007 11:17PM
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DrStrangelove
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yah a lot of gun-owning families have way more than one gun...i know that's not ALWAYS the case, but i know lots of kids whose families don't have firearms, and the families that DO have them own in excess of 20...

i mean, in the south, especially the rural south, it's slanted pretty heavily. most guys i know are hunters, but they have loads of other non-hunting guns just as collectibles or for fun. at the same time, loads of people are completely opposed to it. all i'm saying is that those 90 licensed weapons are probably only represented by 10-20 people or houses.
Sep 19 2007 11:20PM
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.jon
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i dont really have any advice but...

i got into trap shooting (clay pidgeons) this past summer and its soooo fun
Sep 19 2007 11:27PM
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Liam.Butler
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I get what he is trying to say, he is against guns getting out illegally to the public and help cause death. But since there is no chance on them being banned he might as well own one because he is still interested in guns. He said if guns were to be banned he would gladly give up his rights to bear arms and his gun.
Sep 19 2007 11:30PM
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TerminatorX
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if i were you, i would get a 9mm, just so i could tell people im packing a 9.
Sep 19 2007 11:31PM
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beer.
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yeah that statistic is for virginia only. but isnt that ridiculous? thats va for ya
Sep 19 2007 11:31PM
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Shpadoinkle
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yeup. the south is a crazy place. my friend has like 10 guns in his truck. all different kinds. you name it....he's got it. he doesn't even hunt that much.
Sep 19 2007 11:31PM
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fuzz.
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dude why the hell do you need a gun anyway?
Sep 19 2007 11:32PM
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beer.
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I'm not worried about anything. I have a gun!

no seriously, go fuck yourself.
Sep 19 2007 11:32PM
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