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my new laptop, what do you thinK?

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vtrider
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Just ordered up a new dell laptop for school, you think its gonna do the job for movies and gaming (cause thats what im going to school for HA)
Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 processor,3.06GHz,15in UXGA
Qty: 1 Unit Price: 1,506.00

Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
Memory 512MB,333MHz,2 DIMMs
Primary Battery 96 WHr Lithium-Ion Primary Battery
Hard Drive 30GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
Network Adapters Integrated Network Card
Optical FREE 24X CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive Upgrade! (from DVD)
Digital Photography Dell Picture Studio, Image Expert® Standard
Modem Internal 56K Modem
Video Card 64MB ATi MOBILITY™ RADEON™ 9000

Aug 13 2003 2:24AM
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srwinnsuco
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very badass laptop my friend.

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Aug 13 2003 2:25AM
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vtrider
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thanks, i got a steal on it cause i work at stratton, sumtin like 350 bucks off the normal site.
Aug 13 2003 2:33AM
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ECFS-Attitash
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too bad its a dell

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Aug 13 2003 3:12AM
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vtrider
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why?
Aug 13 2003 3:51AM
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LC.
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30Gb might not be a big enough hard drive for video editing, especially if you have a lot of music and games on it.
Aug 13 2003 5:04AM
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freezed
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yeah...maybe get a bigger hard drive. it will be usefull.


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Aug 13 2003 5:16AM
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ECFS-Attitash
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true on the hard drive

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Aug 13 2003 6:03AM
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mo-rod
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Dude, you getting a dell. LOL what a dumb commercial.
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Aug 13 2003 3:06PM
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kuoppis
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dell customized laptops 0wn j00r 4r535! and get a 80gb hd
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Aug 13 2003 3:30PM
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yea, get a bigger hard drive but other than that it's a pretty good price.
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Aug 13 2003 4:30PM
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Naturalbornskier
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nasty laptop...i personally like ibooks better.
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Aug 13 2003 5:36PM
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Phrosty
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sounds good for a lap, but you'll deff. be kicking yourself for the small harddrive. and then you'll realize that you should have bought a desktop because they are so much better. But hopefully your laptop will give you years of usefullness.


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Aug 13 2003 8:39PM
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lineskier10
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yeah very sick overall except for the hd, it if you just dont keep that much on it then it will be fine though
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Aug 13 2003 8:42PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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you should have upgraded to a DVD burner too.

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Aug 13 2003 9:24PM
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mo-rod
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a 3GHZ processor can handle way more than 40mb go for a 60 at least if not an 80

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Aug 13 2003 9:28PM
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Maximumsushi
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What the FUCK does processor speed have to do with the size of a Hard-Drive that the computer can capacitate? You could put a 1,000,000,000,000 GB HD with a 50 Mhz Processor assuming the motherboard could handle an IDE channel that big.

If you are going to be using the small Hard-Drive, I suggest buying an external one for a cheapish fix once you run out of space. Put low HD access stuff on the external, just for storage space. Things like MP3s, Videos, documents, etc.
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Aug 13 2003 9:57PM
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mo-rod
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in terms of keeping the PC in good running condition like runing disk defreags and shit like that. Many computer stores will advise you (they advised me) not to have more than 80mb with a 1.8GHZ processor.

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Aug 13 2003 10:15PM
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Maximumsushi
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That's 100% Grade A bullshit they tried to sell you.
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Aug 13 2003 10:29PM
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mo-rod
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actually if u have an 80 gig hard drive it takes longer to defrag and start up then if u have a 40 gig hard drive with the same processor speed.

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Aug 13 2003 10:31PM
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Maximumsushi
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Yeah... no kidding on the De-Frag. It has a bigger size. Imagine a defrag as rearranging a whole bunch of different boxes, the more boxes you have the longer it takes to organize. If you can get better at manipulating the boxes, you can do it faster.

As for starting up, you are wrong. It doesn't matter how big your Hard-Drive is. Only how much crap is on there. If you had a terrabyte drive using 1 GB of capacity or a 20 GB drive using 1 GB of capacity, its gonna take the same amount of time. Assuming the RPM/seek time is the same of course.

However, what they told you is bullshit. How often do you defrag? Do you ever actually do it during the day? You probably de-frag during the night if you've got some sense. It doesn't really matter to me if it takes 2 or 6 hours to defrag. For the amount that one defrags a drive, it shouldn't ever even be considered. Those guys told you bullshit.
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Aug 13 2003 10:43PM
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JibbaJabba
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^its doesnt take longer to start up, and its not like you defrag every day, you really only need maybe once a month
Aug 13 2003 10:45PM
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Maximumsushi
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AND, also I should have mentioned that two drives have just been defragged, they should start up at the same speed anyway. Defragging basically makes sure all programs and data are layed out in a linear fashion on your disk. Decreases seek time essentially. Hard-Drives have no bearing on start-up speeds essentially.
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Aug 13 2003 10:47PM
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mo-rod
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well I'm just telling you what I was told dan, dont get worked up over a business depot employee. I defrag once every two weeks cause I put new shit on my PC all the time. 400 megs a day at least then delete some of it and keep going.
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Aug 13 2003 11:14PM
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Phrosty
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i'm with the sushi guy on this one.


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Aug 13 2003 11:14PM
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thegreyarea
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hehe...another plastic pos...buy an oem and build it w/all the components you need

i'm not being a dick, but you should've looked into toshiba. they're much higher rated than dell, cheaper, more reliable, and they use amd chips and not p's. i work at a place that uses about 45 dell laptops (inspirons and latitudes) and i've had at least 23 hardware failures or hardware problems w/them w/in the first year of owning each one.
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Aug 13 2003 11:19PM
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Maximumsushi
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I'm not getting worked up, sorry if it appears that way. I'm just telling you the way things actually work.
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Aug 13 2003 11:23PM
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vtrider
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Im on my new laptop now, and its sick! why do you guys insist on a bigger hard drive? Both my pc's at home have 20 and 60 gig HD and i have yet to fill them even up to 15 gigs. what takes up so much space for you guys? As far as mp3's go, I dont like to need more then 2,000 songs on here. And as far as movie editing goes, i dont do any now, and prolly a little later. I have a home network at home so i can save all movies on that.
Aug 14 2003 2:56AM
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LC.
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You will need a bigger hard drive if you're serious about video editing.

I have a 40Gb disk just now. The only significatly large stuff I have on it just now is 3000 mp3 files, Photoshop, Office XP, Kazaa Lite and a few games, and about 20Gb is being used just now. An hour of uncompressed video takes up about 15Gb, so you'll be cutting it pretty close unless you're careful with what you install on it.
Aug 14 2003 3:14AM
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LC.
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And a question for you guys: I'll be getting a decent camcorder soon (VX1000 or GL1 hopefully), so I'll be wanting to edit a load of video. So I'll be installing a second hard disk. How easy is that to do? Is it just like adding any other hardware, or is there a lot of manual configuration involved? I'm running XP.
Aug 14 2003 3:16AM
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666
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naw its easy all you gotta do is format it, which is easy once its detected you can do it at the os level with xp, just right click on the drive and format.

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Aug 14 2003 3:22AM
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Maximumsushi
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I have about 93 GB of space and its usually filled to the brim. I am constantly downloading things, movies, ISOs, MP3s, whatever. It's tpyically video which takes up a lot of space for me, one movie can be around 700 MB, a couple cartoons can easily be 2-3 GB.
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Aug 14 2003 3:32AM
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five0
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does alienware make laptops? b/c ive heard good things about their pc's
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Aug 14 2003 3:45AM
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ECFS-Attitash
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yea they make laptops...not bad at all.

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Aug 14 2003 5:14AM
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B-Wald
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only thing other than the hard drive space that'd i'd change if i got that computer..
you can't network to more than 5 computers with home..xp pro is the way to go..(rhyme)..

and alienware's laptops are extremely heavy..but have a lot of good shit in them..
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Aug 14 2003 5:28AM
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666
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home haha such funny pros good funny that they tried to make xp all hard to pirate, but any1 that has a head on there carcass can get passed there weierd little registration forge twhat ther calling it thing.
Aug 14 2003 6:11AM
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Maximumsushi
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Or you could just use Windows 2000. I don't like XP, but thats just me. Alienware's stuff is always awesome, but really expensive. I would still buy a desktop though.,
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Aug 14 2003 2:52PM
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skodeo7
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Rihm listen to these people they know what they are talking about. If you want to seirously get into video shit than you need atleast 160 gigs of harddrive space I would say. I have like a year and half worth of footage and I filled my 80 gig with ease.
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Aug 14 2003 6:55PM
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Prins
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hmmmmmm, it seems like my music collection would nearly fill your lap top HD (hehe gogo 26.5 gigs of music), but I have 320 gigs at the moment and I was recently doing a couple projects at the same time and used about 290 gigs of that and the way the partioning worked out I actually had to delete some stuff after dubbing out video work to have room to multiplex the dvd image. but most of the time I don't need most of that space. Video just eats space like non other.

And any MP3 collection under 3000 needs work (currently at 5473).
Aug 14 2003 10:03PM
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LC.
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I wouldn't say you need that much skodeo. Unless you're compiling a huge video from the whole year, you'll probably only have up to about an hour of raw footage on your computer. An hour takes up about 15Gb, so 60Gb is a pretty safe size once you add up all your programs and other files.

That said, hard disks are really cheap these days, so you might as well get a 120Gb if you can get a good price.
Aug 14 2003 10:05PM
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skodeo7
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'Unless you're compiling a huge video from the whole year'

-uhhh...isn't that what making a movie is??
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Aug 14 2003 10:35PM
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LC.
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Well, he said he just wanted it 'for movies', so he might go to a comp, take an hour of footage and make a movie of that.
Aug 14 2003 10:56PM
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Capurnicus
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My Dad has a dell laptop....I loathe that machine.

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Aug 14 2003 11:33PM
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vtrider
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if i get into editing, which at the moment is out of the picture cause i dont have a camera, i will just buy an external hd thats like a 100 gigs. something like this would work right guys?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2746716888&category=3757
I have a firewire port, so that would be no issue.
Aug 15 2003 3:54AM
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Maximumsushi
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Yes, that would be the optimal solution to your problem.
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Aug 15 2003 5:32AM
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Capurnicus
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Silly Freezy! He said laptob not paperweight.

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Aug 16 2003 4:42AM
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