What do you like about obama

i understand fully what you and Paul are saying about leaving those tough choices to the states. however, i do not agree with it. i feel that if those choices are left to the states, we will suddenly no longer have a united states of america, because states will differ so drastically on all many issues. as a result, people of certain opinions don't want to live in states that counter their opinion and ban them from practicing it. so what i think would happen is that suddenly, people will only be living with other people of the same opinion, which entirely counters the premise our country was founded upon: the mixing, questioning, and challenging of opinions; either our own or others'. i would just be worried about states becoming too different from one another, where it would no longer be the united states of america, because all of the states will have widely varying policies and beliefs. do you get what i'm saying?

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haha, a good laugh mid-debate. Thanks.

its already mostly like that

which is why we shouldn't let it delve further into that state. i agree that states should be autonomous and should be able to have a set of laws that differ from another state and to have their own constitution, etc. but i think these issues are too major to leave up to the states. right now, you could be a republican in a typically democrat state and not feel threatened or anything. but if you're a gay in a state that decides not to acknowledge your equality, then your rights are being infringed upon and you most likely do feel threatened, and that's where the states could start to separate and become distant from one another, and that frightens me.

it reminds me of the last time we let states decide for themselves on a major issue, and that issue was slavery, and it resulted in a civil war.

Not a ton, I've been pretty out of it politically for quite a while. I'm getting back into it now, and I just watched the first youtube video that you posted in your ron paul thread, and I'll say that I agree wholeheartedly with his statements on the current administration not being actual conservatives and the need for a balanced budget. However, it's mad late and I'm a little drunk and I don't feel like really searching out his entire economic policy, so please give me a little insight into why a federal income tax is a bad idea?

By the way, I am probably more aware then you of the numerous gross ways in which the government squanders money and it disgusts me, but I don't think the solution is in cutting taxes, when simple reallocation would produce a world of good with money we already collect.

no no no. in the video i posted earlier RP states very clearly that every american has the same set of freedoms. that would not change.

i feel like this debate is actually going somewhere. meanwhile, i am EXHAUSTED. thanks for the input from everybody, i truly challenged my own opinions tonight. i've come out of this understanding ron paul's policies much more thoroughly, which i appreciate. let's continue this tomorrow, yes? goodnight guys!

Just from earlier in the thread;
Ron Paul: "Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)"

That sounds an awful lot like he doesn't think that gays should have the same rights as every other American.