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2008 4FRNT EHP's

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emopoppins
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so does this mean the 190 is a full twin tip now, and the others are for skinning
Jun 30 2007 10:20PM
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SWA666ER
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cool sksi though
Jun 30 2007 10:28PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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the 186 is maaaaad rockered
Jun 30 2007 10:58PM
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TimothyLord
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i likke them

Jun 30 2007 11:08PM
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Ryanvdonk
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they were a full twin before, just had squared off tails.
Jun 30 2007 11:20PM
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GreenStezz
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4frnt=dope..
Jun 30 2007 11:20PM
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hollygrove
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The 190 sounds like it'll be same as last year.
Jun 30 2007 11:41PM
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Matty_C
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i'm hopin to the 190 as my big mountain charger. anyone know how i get hold of em in the uk/europe? i've heard great things and those graphics are beautiful
Jul 1 2007 12:28AM
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r.w
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they were all twintip from the start
Jul 1 2007 2:04AM
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RudyGarmisch
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4FRNT's graphics are just getting better and better, I really like them this year especially. Sick ski for sure, liking the square tails for skins.
Jul 1 2007 4:05AM
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potato_man
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oh yeah, i never really noticed it. mad rockered
Jul 10 2007 3:57AM
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GUZ
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those are so sick
Jul 10 2007 11:09AM
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timoski
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190 i think is pretty much identical to the VCT. the others are front-rockered.

maybe full twin.
Jul 10 2007 11:17AM
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philipc
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shutup emo ur a ninthward rider
Jul 10 2007 3:25PM
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pow314
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actually tail rockered
Jul 10 2007 3:45PM
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dan4060
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Those 186's look sick. Would love to try them, or at least hear a good review.
Jul 10 2007 5:07PM
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artfullydodged
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they look like this years high society's
Jul 10 2007 5:11PM
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wrenegade
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The 186 and 193 are rockered and slightly unconventionally shaped. The 190 is the same ski as last year, AKA, the old 190 VCT. The new 189 VCT is different ski from all of these.
Jul 10 2007 6:24PM
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Silence
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wow i just checked it out and the 193 has a 41.4m radius!
Aug 3 2007 5:00AM
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EastSteez.
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idk but the 190's look so sick
Aug 15 2007 5:25PM
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CraigAK
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bump...
im going to buy these for sure as my big mountian charging ski, but i cant decide between the 186 and 193, hopefully someone out there can help me out. I cant figure out what a tail rockers advantage would be, like on the 186? Hopefully somone out there has riden both and can compare, or even if you have riden one any imput on the 186s and 193s would be appreicated. i would think that the 193 would be better for the larger cliff drops bc its tail is not rockered....
thanks to anyone who has input, and ++karma for anyone that does
Aug 11 2008 5:26AM
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DangerToes
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^hey dude, as a big mountain charge ski, the 193 would definitely be your choice. It isnt rockered and has a much stiffer flex which is what you want at higher speeds and variable conditions. the 186 is designed to be more of a tree ski, as it is heavily rockered and has a somewhat softer flex. the tail rocker on the 186 helps you shut it down and pivot easier in tight situations. The reason the 193 doesnt have this is because it wont lock into a carve as you would want in higher speed situations. also, when doing bigger cliff drops, it keeps you from rocking backseat (another reason why it isnt a twin tip, as it will hold a carve better and help you stomp your landings.) Other suggestions would be the ANT or he new Mothership, but dont get me wrong, I love my 4frnts, theyre a great ski and I like not having the twin tip on my dedicated charge skis for those performance benefits. Just an fyi though, 4frnts are a bit heavier of a ski which improves their performance through hardpack and crud, but is obviously a touch heavier as far as swingweight goes if you were going for that.
Aug 11 2008 5:36AM
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CraigAK
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thanks a ton, you just made my mind for the 193 if i buy these... now i have to research ANTs and the new Motherships. i am only 5'10'' and 150 pounds, and have never owned a ski over 181, but with the tip rocker/ early rise it will only be like a 188ish right? not that i think a 193 would be too big, i dont, just curious if this really does make them seem smaller or not
Aug 11 2008 5:59AM
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CraigAK
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im not really feeling ANTs but those motherships.... damn.... god damn

Aug 11 2008 6:15AM
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-Tristan-
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I think with your stats you might be happier on the 186. If you can find it. Where will you be skiing these? Bindings? Years skiing and where? I dont want to confuse you again, just pointing out that you might be happier on the 186. Skiing the 193 will just make you adapt though, so if you are set on them build those leg muscles and you could be fine.
Aug 11 2008 9:56AM
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CraigAK
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I will be skiing these in juneau alaska, where i live, and hopefully make the short trip to haines once this year. i dont own bindings that im going to put on them, i just turned 17 and have been skiing since 4 years old, all the 12 seasons have been skiing at eaglecrest alaska.
Aug 11 2008 3:05PM
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CraigAK
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and if i knew what that tail rocker will on the 186 i would deffinetly get them, bc i would rather have the smaller size for throwing flips and spins off cliffs, but i am going to quite a bit of the skiing with these in the trees, most of the epic pillows here are in teh trees, but also want a ski for just charging outside of a tree run, and i dont know if the 186s tail would help me any with that, or for stomping bigger cliff drops... and on 4frnts site they say that they all weight the same, which dosent make much sense but whatever
Aug 11 2008 3:16PM
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