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ValPow
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If you had the chance to be in the SAS would you go.

They are the hardest, best drilled, most skilled, most efficient and generally the best soldiers in the world by miles, but would you want to join them if you had what it takes to be one?

Not sure i would
May 25 2007 3:59PM
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clrumivier4life
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No way.  Although you'd be such a badass.
May 25 2007 4:09PM
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japanada
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if you had the abilities to be one, then you are pretty much already destined to be a solider, so HELL YES i would.
May 25 2007 4:17PM
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eheath
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Probably not.
May 25 2007 4:18PM
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Tom.
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greenies are better. lol.
May 25 2007 5:10PM
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aussieskier
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if you read the thread about supporting troops i have been posting in it a bit.

however i used to be a soldier in the 226 Airbourne which is a regement of the australain army.
the 226 is for some a stepping stone to the SAS.
the SAS are redic the training is the toughest in the world bar none, you are the best at water landings, recon, parchuting....everything. you will not find a better soldier anywhere. well enough blowing smoke up there ass there are a few downers to being in the regement.
many of the guys i have worked with suffer insomnia, domestic issues and such.
the dude are trained to kill all day every day and it doesnt rub off very well in civillian life.

would i do it? if i was still a soldier yea i think i would try. if you do anything do it at the top level and in the millitary the SAS is the best
May 25 2007 5:10PM
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MrLevel
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No! Legion Etranger, Deuxieme Regiment Etranger de Parachutist (2REP), and then if you're good enough Group Commando de Parachutist (GCP) which is the Legions "special forces"
May 25 2007 6:04PM
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EnemySki
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Honestly, no, i would rather be in my own countrys elite special forces like Delta, SEALs, etc.
May 25 2007 8:09PM
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eyes.a.fire
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i have halo SAS rims on my ;)
May 25 2007 8:24PM
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eyes.a.fire
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bike*
May 25 2007 8:24PM
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gnustreetfool
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spartans would fuck sas up anyday of the week
May 25 2007 8:34PM
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niels.
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believe it or not but sas also stands for side angle side which is a rule to see whether two triangles are proportional to one another. yeehaw for exams
May 25 2007 10:38PM
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ValPow
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thats like saying

no dont want to be as good as tanner, candide, dumont etc, id rather be someone more average,

if i had the willpower and drive to be in the army, of course you want to get to the top and be the best
May 26 2007 1:55AM
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BFFset.
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i would say no. but then if i had the chance to be in it i would probably have a different mindset than i do right now, so then i might say yes. i do not know.
May 26 2007 1:58AM
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ktollefson_1080
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sas is special ed school around here.
May 26 2007 2:13AM
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EnemySki
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Are you kidding, the people i mentioned are anything but average.
Let me state it more like this, Instead of playing for England in the Olympic games, i would rather play for the United States.
And the training that the SEALs go through known as BUD/s is the hardest course in the world.
May 26 2007 2:38AM
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ValPow
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i beg to differ, i think you will find that the SAS has the most stringent selection process around for a reason. They are to most gifted fighting unit around, they are adaptable and ruthlessly efficient, without doubt the best. the aussie guy was in their army for a while so obviously knows what he is talking about, in fact he was in a regiment that is a feeder one for the SAS i think.

Youre probably from america so no wonder you would rather represent your own country in the olympics. the fact is england are shit at most sports. however i remember the americans loosing to puerto rico at basketball in the last olympics so they are not much better, thats beside the point anyway.
May 26 2007 2:47AM
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brokebutitsworthit
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it would be interesting to be the elite like that and if i could i would, however its hard to turn off I know an ex-SAS soldier (he even has the tatoo covered up by another but you can just see it) and its not easy to exist on razors edge forever. 
May 26 2007 3:34AM
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mtbakerteacher
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SAS?
May 26 2007 3:48AM
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EnemySki
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Special Air Service
May 26 2007 3:54AM
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mtbakerteacher
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Oooooh.. whats so special about it? aside from hardcore training? and what country, US?
May 26 2007 4:05AM
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ValPow
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they are an elite fighting squad, who do the jobs that other forces aren't brave enough or skilled enough to do. You get selected apply to be in and their training regime is as tough as it gets. They are a branch of the british armed services, but dont necessarily fight with the rest of the army.
May 26 2007 4:47AM
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alaskakid
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well after doing that then EVERYTHING else will seem easy, but that is very very hard work.
May 26 2007 7:22AM
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Worst.NS.Member
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I've trained with SBS and SAS sappers, every US SF, and several other nations'. Good guys all. I would say they (SAS) are about on par with any of the top class superpower's SF. But I would also say I would rather have the intelligence infrastructure and technological advantages of US SF when it comes down to it. If you're talking pure grit and blood, the Russian GRU and French units have by far the harshest trials. Not because of greater skill required, but because life is cheap, and they don't sacrifice quality of operators for the sake of their health and safety.

Arguing what nations' SF is 'better' is silly. Many things go into the equation, and only 10% of the spear is the tip.
As far as support to operations, the US is vastly superior across the entire spectrum. (Not being biased, just speaking from experience)
May 26 2007 8:06AM
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Worst.NS.Member
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That said, SF is nothing to be proud of.
If you join the SAS/Delta/SEAL etc, you become the arm of various political agendas Du Jour. You will do terrible things to topple groups movements and states who don't align with your state's stances, and never be able to tell the tale. The few good things you do will go unrewarded, uncelebrated, and unknown. There's better ways to prove your grit and toughness, and certainly better ways to serve your country. Thankfully the brits have less a reputation of hegemonic domineering than we do as of late.
If you want to be SF, I would say SF medic or para-rescueman is a noble SF profession. My $.02
May 26 2007 8:17AM
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ValPow
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i suppose the fact if the matter is the public know about 1% of what happens in the SF and its for a reason, alot of the political stuff that they are involved in is pretty gruesome and the public shouldn't know about

from a british perspective when the sas went to northern ireland to deal with the ira, some of what they did got into the presses hands and the sas took some serious stick for 'unneeded' ruthlessness.

if your after bloodshed and pure violence then the russian SF i would imagine to be fierce and some of the asians (china, vietnamese etc) would be attrotious
May 26 2007 8:41AM
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MrScruff
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Think you're taking this a bit too seriously. Firsly, they're not a branch of the armed services, they're a regiment of the army. You don't 'join the SAS', you serve 3 years in the regular army then put yourself forward for selection. During this time you will realise that they are in fact just like any other regiment, just with SF roles during operations. They require the same services as everyone else in the army e.g. logistics, medics, intelligence etc. so they still serve alongside everyone else. Although their training is especially tough, there are many other units in the British Army which have insane selection processes, pathfinders, forward observers and so on. I'm not saying for a second SAS selection isn't tough, but it is overly glamourised thanks to Andy McNob and so on. If you are serious about attempting selection you train for months and months, then the selection course itself is designed to build gradually on your fitness over many weeks, it's not a case of being built like Rambo from birth.
May 26 2007 9:24AM
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Tom.
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May 26 2007 10:05AM
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errrka
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omg! i have finals on tuesday when i go back! geometry included, thanks for reminding me =]
May 26 2007 10:14AM
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Worst.NS.Member
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I grew out of my GI Joe phase after a while. Then I did what any sensible man in my position does: Become a defense contractor doing the same job for 30x the price!

I'll have no more to do with being the whimsically employed tool of some politico who uses you to take out his personal enemies.

I forgot to mention the Israelis. Yeah. Nasty buggers. Be a medic, help your brothers, and be useful in any situation. If you can pass the US P.A.S.T Test, you can make the initial SAS/SBS selection.
And say hello to Ipswitch for me :P
May 26 2007 10:52AM
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hoodratz47
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you hear about the new french tank?? 16 gears... 2 foward 14 reverse!
May 26 2007 11:00AM
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