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What to put on my bacons

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skiwoj
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I just ordered a pair of bacons for next year and I was wondering what bindings to put on them.
I am 6'1", 170 pounds, and i will be using them as my powder ski when I go to school in Utah next year.
I was thinking about getting 914's but my shop is sold out, but I can get 916's, but do i really need a din that high?
So what does everybody think i should put on them?
And if anybody knows of any crazy deals on some let me know, cause I need to save up all summer just to afford these.
Apr 6 2007 10:38PM
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Silence
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i may be out of my depth here but @ 6'1 170lb wouldnt a din of 12-14 be excessive?
Apr 8 2007 4:39AM
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Love_Wins.
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Would depend on BSL and personal preference as well...as a type 3 skier in that range, the Rossignol chart puts him at about 8 as a max (smallest BSL shown). The chart puts me at 7, and I usually ride at 9, the generally accepted rule of thumb for jibbing and charging is the shop setting + up to 4 (once you go more than 4 above what you were set at, you might hurt yourself, and it could happen before then)...but it depends on how you ride, how much you pre-release, all kinds of stuff...the best thing to do is leave it where the shop sets it until you pre-release, then turn it up half a setting and keep skiing, repeat if you kepp pre-releasing. But if you take a fall and can feel that your ski should've come off, or feel alot of torque when it does release, turn them down half a setting. The ideal setting is one where you stay in most times, but when you need to release it's smooth.
Apr 8 2007 5:03AM
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ski_powpow
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rossi scratch bindings are good
Apr 8 2007 3:15PM
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salomonskiier12
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put some eggs on your bacons
Apr 8 2007 3:57PM
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ski_powpow
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YES!!!
Apr 8 2007 4:06PM
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skiwoj
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I was thinking of going to Homer Simpson rout and putting butter on my bacon
Apr 8 2007 7:03PM
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SkiMN
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Well, I read a lot of this, and its basically a lot of people who cant agree, and Strum whos got his shit together. Most people on here dont need the FKS or PX race stock bindings, most of this site will never go above a DIN of 12. Seems to me like a lot of people hear something about a burly ski like the Bacons and think they need a burly binding. I big ski doesnt mean big bindings, a big/agressive skier is the only justification for a binding like the FKS or the PX18 or something crazy.

Now my recommendation: Look or Rossi (you pay for em to say Look on em) binders that go up to a DIN of 12, maybe up to 14 if you get a deal or something. I think I remember you being 6' and 170, correct me when I'm wrong on that. I'm 6'2 176lbs and the shop set my Looks at 8, no problems, you'll never need to crank yours above 10 unless you charge like no other. Good day.
Apr 8 2007 7:33PM
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skiwoj
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thats what I wanted to hear, I thought that 16 was excessive, but hearing your opinion makes me feel better about a px12 or 14.
So i should be fine with a px12ti?
Apr 8 2007 8:44PM
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Love_Wins.
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That is your opinion...while most people probably won't run the DIN over 12, that doesn't mean they should buy a shitty binding, if you ride between 9 and 12, then an FKS 155 would be perfect for you (allowing you to keep your setting in the middle portion of the range). If you don't ride that high then an FKS 120 would be a far better option than a comparable Salomon binding or the PX series, the FKS are sturdier, will last longer, and are safer.
Apr 8 2007 8:57PM
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skiwoj
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but doesn't the fks series have a tight screw pattern?
Apr 8 2007 9:10PM
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SkiMN
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So what, your trying to tell me that binders like the 140ti are pieces of shit? I'm not attempting to get into an argument here, I'm just sayin, what do you mean by shitty? I mean a lot of the 12 and 14 DIN bindings are too legit to quit, cost less, etc. I mean I wouldnt expect the guy to ever need to run more than a 9, why pay for extra tension you wont use? Now I can see where your coming from, I wouldnt buy a 3.5 to 12 DIN binding like my PX12 JIBS if I were going to use a DIN of 11.5-12 all the time, but if your not even close to max, why bother?
Apr 8 2007 9:13PM
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Love_Wins.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to start an argument either...that comment was more directed at the S912 and Z12 than the Look/Rossi bindings. The lower-end Salomon bindings are notorious for breaking one plastic piece at a time...or just having entire housings explode on impact. And personally (some people won't agree with me) the PX isn't a great binding...at all. It was done to cut costs...the pivot series was a far better clamp. I waa just saying that if you're going to buy a 12 DIn binding, the FKS 120 is a great choice (even if the screw pattern is a little tighter than the others). Also consider that the new Marker binding is coming out next year (Duke for AT and Jester for Alpine) and from what I've heard, they are very nice.
Apr 8 2007 9:36PM
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SkiMN
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Low end sollys suck dick, no secret. I managed to tip stand myself out of a pair of sollys onto my face once. I went to the dildo heelpiece and I'll never go back. I havent ridden in any of the pivots, but I'm in the market for another pair of sticks and if I can I'd like to get piviots for em, but I think the PX series is sick.
Apr 8 2007 9:57PM
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skiwoj
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would it be ok to set my din at a 10 if i ride a px12?
Apr 11 2007 4:42PM
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Love_Wins.
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Should be ok, but I wouldn't push it any higher than that if you want to release consistantly.
Apr 12 2007 10:36PM
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nellyyy
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Rossignol FKS before its too late. they will be discontinued after the 06-07 season
Apr 12 2007 11:30PM
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skiwoj
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ok, so now it is between the px 14ti and ti and the fks 120, i can get both for about 160, so which should i go with? and why?
Apr 13 2007 12:03PM
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skiwoj
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keeping in mind that i will be running a 9 or 10 din
Apr 13 2007 12:04PM
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EL_FINRE
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i was wondering when someone was gonna say that... good job!!
Apr 13 2007 1:27PM
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skithebigA
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914 freerides
Apr 13 2007 2:49PM
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Love_Wins.
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No question, the FKS is a far better binding. But it depends on what you plan to use it for...
For a really wide ski, the FKS brakes are a pain in the ass to bend, I mean a real pain in the ass, and if you brake them, you can't buy new ones from Rossi, so you'll have to find some turntable bindings for parts, or run without brakes, whereas you can just buy the widebrake for the PX.
Also if you ever plan to crank them past 10, I'd get the 140, when you push a binding within 2 settings of either end of it's range, you can cause the spring to wear quicker and not have consistant releases.
Apr 13 2007 4:28PM
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skiwoj
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Everyone is giving me different opinions and you sound like you know what you are talking about, so if i want my din at 9 or 10 what is the best binding for me
Apr 13 2007 4:38PM
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=nick=
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if you keep it at 10 and below on fks 120s yull be fine
Apr 13 2007 4:39PM
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nashbuck
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yea if u want it at 10 the FKS 120 would be good. but if u ever want to crank it up it would be better to get the 155
Apr 13 2007 4:50PM
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Love_Wins.
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10 or below and the better binding is the FKS 120, they'll last far longer, and are safer. But remember the brake bending issue, there is a tutorial for it on TGR, but it's still a large headache. It depends on if you tend to bust bindings too...if you do, get the FKS and just deal with having to bend the brakes...if you don't usually have trouble breaking your bindings, or aren't especially hard on your gear, the 140's will be fine, and they have a wider screw pattern so will be less prone to tearing out.
Apr 13 2007 4:58PM
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