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Volkl Karmas

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90noproblem
Posts: 10 - Karma: 9
does anyone have any reviews on the volkl karmas
Feb 27 2007 4:40PM
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ijibgoremtn
Posts: 4221 - Karma: 13
they are super stiff, but really lightweight
Feb 27 2007 4:58PM
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wil_e123
Posts: 30 - Karma: 10
^ i second that.

I've been using them for a while now (the 06/07 model) and they are super stiff. I'm 5'10 and riding 169's cos i prefer a shorter ski (and i'm pretty light). As previously said they're super light which is a nice advantage.
Overall:
Park: great fun, maybe lack a bit of flex. I don't do rails much so i'm in no position to tell...Landing jumps is a breeze they suck it all up.
Groomers: awesome, super stable at high speeds (normal and switch positions).
Pow/BC: f'in awesome, they shred in the deep pow, you float (it is 87mm at the waist!!!)

my $.02$

peace.

Feb 27 2007 5:15PM
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Chucktheweasel
Posts: 551 - Karma: 126
They are stiffer than your normal twinn, but they aren't that bad. They absolutely kill it in the park, ton of pop and are really light. I'm 5' 9" and 150lbs, and I ride the 177cm. It also handles the rest of the mountain like none other. I guess the only thing is if you want a super buttery ski, look at something else. Not saying you can't butter on these, it's just not nearly as easy as something like the triplets or something.
Feb 27 2007 5:20PM
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N.Diddy
Posts: 1469 - Karma: 57
really stiff
all mountain ski
like 50park/ 50mountain
Feb 27 2007 5:21PM
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papasteeze
Posts: 12055 - Karma: 911
I won't ride any other twin.  thats not saying much though cause I don't jump or jib anymore.
Feb 27 2007 5:39PM
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Luc.
Posts: 7540 - Karma: 59
dope on rails. dope ine the air...dope...EVERYWHERE!!!

and if u doubts their park capabilities for 1 second...just look at all the crazy shit that tim russel and colby west does on them.
Feb 27 2007 5:58PM
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watchmefall15
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i might get the 185s next year cuz i gotta have long skis and probably only gonna ski 90% park next year instead of 100%
Feb 27 2007 6:22PM
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LS.
Posts: 1841 - Karma: 858
very flexible a bit on the heavy side
Feb 28 2007 10:05PM
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snowXrider540
Posts: 1182 - Karma: 12
somehow that made me laugh
Feb 28 2007 10:08PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 149
people overstate the stiffness of the karmas..they arent THAT stiff.
Feb 28 2007 10:09PM
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Geonerd
Posts: 251 - Karma: 63
Stiff !!!!!!! and really fast, won't ride anything else either
Feb 28 2007 10:10PM
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Luc.
Posts: 7540 - Karma: 59
tonight i was doign right side 3's off this tiny little knuckle thing that was like 2 feet high...if that...so like they are very manuaverable(sp?)
Feb 28 2007 10:38PM
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whattheshit
Posts: 6562 - Karma: 107
i laughed too. 

remember kids, its okay to ski outside the park.  snow yeti's don't actually exist.
Feb 28 2007 11:04PM
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Salomonkid161
Posts: 102 - Karma: 10
Too stiff I say go with the Dogens for park.
Feb 28 2007 11:06PM
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charmander
Posts: 10636 - Karma: 372
i second this, only im 5' 6" and 140 lbs. with 161's, if you get them they arent rail skis at all, they were designed as more of a pipe ski and if oyu take them on rails it will ruin those beautiful super grabby edges

but im pretty sure you can slide a searchbar with them and they'll be just fine
Feb 28 2007 11:11PM
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smknbud420stoner
Posts: 218 - Karma: 11
they kill in the park and are really fun in the steep part of the ski resort also. i also heard that they soften up as time goes on.
Feb 28 2007 11:14PM
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jlm220
Posts: 157 - Karma: 10
the karmas arent that stiff. the tails are, but the tips are much softer. I also own chronics, and when comparing their flex patter, they werent that different. stiff skis are better all around
Mar 1 2007 1:32PM
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ScratchFS91
Posts: 678 - Karma: 27
stiff, good in the park, better all mountain, good ski
Mar 1 2007 3:44PM
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teamsleep
Posts: 788 - Karma: 22
hahaha
Mar 1 2007 3:45PM
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PatVigorito
Posts: 405 - Karma: 12
i used to have a pair, they're pretty stiff but solid, they hold up better than any other volkl twin
Mar 1 2007 3:52PM
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Colt45er
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 336
i  thought the karmas are like one of the stiffest skiis on the market
Mar 1 2007 3:57PM
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cdubbin09
Posts: 97 - Karma: 10
best ski i've riden in a long time. I prefer to ski pow, but when there's no new snow, they perform in the park great. I'm 5'9" and ride the 185 and they work perfectly. nasty on rails as well
Mar 1 2007 3:58PM
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Ryanvdonk
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according to colby the edges hold up really well, they are durbable in every aspect.
Mar 1 2007 4:04PM
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charmander
Posts: 10636 - Karma: 372
they arent rail skis though, for rails it would be better to have a park ski, the karma is an all mt./park ski hence the stiffness, the edges wont be the same if you do rails on them
Mar 1 2007 11:13PM
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steezy-joe
Posts: 452 - Karma: 10
stiff, solid, light, but the top sheet is the bigest peice of de-laminating shit ever, be wary. i would sujjest them, but they fall apart really easily
Mar 1 2007 11:18PM
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*karma*
Posts: 1072 - Karma: 328
mine are heavy, then again i have the first years... when they had that sweet metal plate in the top sheet
Mar 1 2007 11:20PM
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outerlimitz
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that happened to my friend too..but mine have held up really well. But they replaced my friend's with a brand new pair in just a few days.
Mar 2 2007 12:41AM
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Kendall
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I laughed at the 90% thing also...

I'm riding 177's loaded with Z12's and the combination is ridiculous. At 200lbs I'm very happy with the stability and swing weight of the skis. You can rip zipper lines in tight moguls, float knee deep powder, charge groomers and rule the park.

My only advice regards ski length. There is much debate between 177 and 185's for those in the 175-210lb range. I haven't skied both, but don't hesitate for the shorter of the two. This is a beefy ski and you can get away with the shorter size.

Oh yeah, one more thing, the top sheet on the 07's is suspect. I've only been on them 5 times and they aren't holding up even as well as my 1080's...What? Yes it's true, and I've only done a couple rails...
Mar 2 2007 8:03AM
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charmander
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yea mine delamned when i slightly underrotated a 3
Mar 3 2007 1:45PM
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steezy-joe
Posts: 452 - Karma: 10
see, the top sheets blow, but the rest is solid, i wish they would just put a bit more time into the topsheet cuz then it would be my favorite ski EVER. but VOLKL is kinda lazy when it comes to that, my dads old volkls delamed too, so im not buying volkl anymore, 2 times for one house out of 2 is enough.
Mar 25 2007 3:33AM
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