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ITS QUESTION TIME...

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Luc.
Posts: 7540 - Karma: 59
OK....

so as many have said before me i have a delema..(spelt wrong)

i am 6'1'' 170ish pounds...and ski in the east cost...been skiing for long time...like to ski all"mountain" and mainly park...(75%park, 25% everything else)

i can either get the 06-07 vokl karmas 185 for 799.99 with binder...(mojo 15)

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the 05-06 scratch fs 181 with scratch pro binder for around 500.00


I am exactly 183 cm tall...i like the idea of a having a ski bigger than me...so i am leaning towards the karmas....is there anything i should think of that i missed about this?? what do you peeps think i should do??STANKS.
Aug 21 2006 1:02PM
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AhrenStein
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scratches are a better ski with better warranty
Aug 21 2006 1:04PM
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Luc.
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 dont know...i am leaning towards teh karmas still...a DOPE binding...and an amazing ski...
Aug 21 2006 1:14PM
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CZA
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scratches suck ass
Aug 21 2006 1:16PM
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eheath
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I don't think i would consider head bindings(aka tyrolia) a "dope" binding...
Aug 21 2006 1:18PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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binder haha. 185s sound good to me
Aug 21 2006 1:19PM
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Luc.
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better than a scratch pro binding which my bro broke his ankle using...

plus i COULD swap em up for my old skis bindings and just give them the switch...i have another pair of rossi pro comp 120s...i want a binding for both pairs thats why i need another binding...we plan on doing a few urban drops this season and im not gonna use my ones..ill use my old chronics.

Aug 21 2006 1:27PM
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G.R.E.G.
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i was jus checking out the karmas yesterday.. since u ski 75% park i would recommend the scratchs because karmas r really stiff and if u land switch they would turn too easy... at least thats wht the dude said
Aug 21 2006 1:45PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Yeah, Karma's arent really made for park... still, they are amazing skis, and you definently could learn to do park on them. They have huge tails, and yes, are very very stiff. But hey, you would be the only person rocking them in the park, while everyone else has scratches.
Aug 21 2006 2:00PM
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DiamondC
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scratches dont touch the karmas, especially the 07's. spend the extra money, u will be glad u did
Aug 21 2006 2:01PM
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Luc.
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i dont understand AT ALL...how everyone says that the karmas arent much of a park ski??? the team prefers the karma and uses them in the park as their PARK ski...the team that one to masters using them one with them...and all love them in the park...i dont get it..

Aug 21 2006 2:41PM
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eheath
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When it comes to bindings, its knees you wanna be more worried about not ankles. I find breaking your ankles in ski boots(EXCEPT TANNERS CRASH) is ridiculous, you're wearing a damn ski boot its practicly a cast.
Aug 21 2006 3:10PM
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seward
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i would personally get the scratches, going from a 167 chronic to a 185 karma is gonna be a big adjustment.

plus you dont really do enough all mountain to need a ski like volkls. a 180 scratch would be sick in the park and stable enough for when you do decide to leave the park.

plus $799 is redonkulous
Aug 21 2006 3:13PM
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Calb3rt
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Go with the Karmas.
Aug 21 2006 3:33PM
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Luc.
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yeh thats my thoughts...especially the dough....i dont want a fucking edge to explode then find myself without a ski...and without 800.00$$$
Aug 21 2006 3:38PM
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Love_Wins.
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Dude, I dunno about all that noise, but my buddy rocks last years 177 Karma and he LOVES his skis, they go everywhere, do anything, and he said once you break them in and learn to use them, they have mad pop, just a matter or loading them up properly, plus them are completely bombproof, the Scratch FS can't really even be compared to the Karma...Volkl just outclasses Rossignol. I'd say get the Karmas, they will hold up forever.
Aug 21 2006 4:18PM
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Luc.
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yeh i just found out... its 600.00 plus tax for the rossi and a axium 200 binder

659.00 plus tx for the scratch 120 composite....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
Aug 21 2006 4:48PM
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Ryno
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Axium's suck.
Aug 21 2006 4:51PM
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Powforbreakfast.
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the man knows what he's talking about.  too many people buy their boots too big... your ankle should be LOCKED in your boot. 
Aug 21 2006 5:00PM
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Luc.
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that doesnt matter..you can stilll have enough pull on your ankle for it to brake...

and UPDATE...

i am leanign towards the karmas even more now since the price is going to be only a 165.00$$ difference between the two...
Aug 21 2006 7:31PM
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cofreeskier
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karmas definitely; thats a sick binding too
Aug 21 2006 7:34PM
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DiamondC
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gooood, ur edges will be fine,these skis are bombproof
Aug 21 2006 8:45PM
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poofartpee
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volkls stiffer and fatter will help since ur kinda heavy
Aug 21 2006 10:13PM
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Luc.
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kinda heavy?? are you calling me fat???lol...i play alot of sports./..(soccer/rugby) so i am by no means "fat" or even over weight...this reminds me or flipping into sw_steeze's pool..and nomensteven saying "you have never seen meat hucked like this" in response to my bio7's...hahahah,....


but i am PUMPED on the karmas...
Aug 21 2006 10:34PM
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Jake...
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luc you fat ass, with the price diff, go with teh karmas, its almost worth it just for hte binder
Aug 21 2006 11:36PM
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Potatoes
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volkls.
Aug 21 2006 11:38PM
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Love_Wins.
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NS has spoken, get the Karmas.
Aug 22 2006 11:06AM
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buckweet
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^^^word
Aug 22 2006 11:25AM
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imotion
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Yo , get the ski you want, if you feel their the same or ones better get it.

You seem to be defending it the first ski so get it.
Aug 22 2006 12:49PM
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attitashfreestyle29
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karmas are the better ski but $300 more is a lot if ur gonna have them for a while get the karmas but if ur buying new skis the next season save your money
Aug 22 2006 2:26PM
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lyndon
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i have axiums scratch 200 on my scratch pros....ive only had 1 problem with the forward pressure....but its fine now.
Aug 22 2006 2:58PM
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Luc.
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but you are alot smaller and alot lighter than me bro...
Aug 22 2006 3:37PM
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Luc.
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and i have decided...

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Aug 22 2006 3:49PM
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DiamondC
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good choice lucifer
Aug 22 2006 3:59PM
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-Tristan-
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tht is a good choice, i think im going ot hae to go with karmas this year
Aug 22 2006 5:13PM
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poofartpee
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just saying ur heavy wether it be bone, muscle, fat, or a mix of it
Aug 22 2006 9:47PM
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cofreeskier
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good decision
Aug 22 2006 9:52PM
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Luc.
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yeh i know i was just playing around with you bro...

AND THANKS TO ALL FOR ALL THE INPUT.
Aug 22 2006 10:15PM
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Mr_Bojangles
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Damn those karmas are so hot right now.
Aug 23 2006 4:29AM
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