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LiteratureYou people need to open your minds. It is something different that people do, and the amount of dedication and work it takes is ridiculous. It is also limited by your budget, as well as if you can cook for yourself apart from everyone else almost all the time. It has health benifits: Vegans are 57% less likely to get heart disease than normal carnivores. Myself, I am only a vegetarian, but i still eat dairy and eggs. This may be contradictory, but it is not important. The fact is, vegans are hardcore and deserve respect.
nocturnalYou should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.
TheQuailmanya im a vegan and i ate some honey - im so badass
*DUMBCAN*Ha this thread being appropriately bumped...
The UK's new shadow minister for farming (shadow means the equivalent position in the opposition party, they have no power but they are supposedly crucial to debate as they should be equally knowledgeable about the field) is a vegan.
The first thing she said is that meat eating should be treated like smoking, i.e. meat come with loads of propaganda about mistreatment of animals and health etc etc.
Just shows how much of a joke the Corbyn-led opposition is...
Like I'm all for encouraging people to eat less meat but buy from high quality local butchers, but abusing your position in government to encourage people to eat no meat based on little more than your bullshit ideology is retarded.
nocturnalYou should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.
nocturnalYou should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.
S.J.WIf every person had to view how their steak, bacon, etc lived for years and how it was killed I'm pretty sure every person would go vegan.
VinnieFI've seen factory hog farms and industrial scale abattoirs and am not vegan. I alone disprove your entire statement.
S.J.WShould also look at the correlation that vegetarians and vegans are also more intelligent than meat eaters. This probably explains your lack of grammar and general retardation.
Also sources are fun.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters
S.J.WAnd you didn't even think about not eating meat? Or eating free range meat? And I'll change my statement, the majority of people would go vegan or eat less meat.
VinnieFdid you read your own source? cause if you did you certainly wouldn't be saying vegetarians are more intelligent.
Not only does the study have a million massive flaws that aren't controlled for like any societal study, it also only stands true in the UK and not the US. And on top of that they don't state whether it even stand in the UK when they do control for parent education and income as they said they controlled for the in US that then showed no significant difference. And on top of that it says nothing about intelligence over time. Sure they maybe a number from when they were young, but was that number stable over the course of their lives or was it increasing/decreasing?
And the biggest flaw that wasn't controlled for: We all know childhood IQ is terribly inaccurate to begin with (and basing an entire hypothesis of this is laughable at best) and that children develop at very different rates with no bearing on their adult intelligence. So Taking number from children all at the same age who are all at different stages of development is completely ridiculous. It's probably entirely possible to interpret the data and come to the conclusion that those who develop at younger ages are more likely to become vegetarian, or maybe even after taking adult IQ results to say that those who develop faster when children are more likely to have a lower IQ as an adult and thus are more likely to become vegetarian.
Dumb study is dumb.
nocturnalLol that's the 2nd time on this site he's done that with a study.
S.J.WIf you're referring to the gender pay gap study, you didn't break it down like Vinnie did. (props to vinnie). You just didn't reply or even provide a counter argument with sources. You're a joke kid.
VinnieFdid you read your own source? cause if you did you certainly wouldn't be saying vegetarians are more intelligent.
Not only does the study have a million massive flaws that aren't controlled for like any societal study, it also only stands true in the UK and not the US. And on top of that they don't state whether it even stand in the UK when they do control for parent education and income as they said they controlled for the in US that then showed no significant difference. And on top of that it says nothing about intelligence over time. Sure they maybe a number from when they were young, but was that number stable over the course of their lives or was it increasing/decreasing?
And the biggest flaw that wasn't controlled for: We all know childhood IQ is terribly inaccurate to begin with (and basing an entire hypothesis of this is laughable at best) and that children develop at very different rates with no bearing on their adult intelligence. So Taking number from children all at the same age who are all at different stages of development is completely ridiculous. It's probably entirely possible to interpret the data and come to the conclusion that those who develop at younger ages are more likely to become vegetarian, or maybe even after taking adult IQ results to say that those who develop faster when children are more likely to have a lower IQ as an adult and thus are more likely to become vegetarian.
Dumb study is dumb.
VinnieFhave you ever visited a farm dedicated to meat production? or an abattoir?
The majority of people would NOT go vegan or eat less meat after visiting those facilities.
However I have had significant changes to my meat-eating over the years. Totally unrelated to visiting farms or abattoirs:
-Overall I eat less meat, but because the price of meat like beef has pretty much doubled in the past decade so it can be difficult to afford eating it on a more regular basis.
-I've taken up hunting a few years ago, partly as an economical way to get meat.
-I'm raising animals for meat, again mostly because of the economic aspect but also for the convenience and cause it's very rewarding raising what's on your plate from scratch.
nocturnalDoesn't change the fact you posted a study without even reading and contradicted what your point was trying to say twice. I've much better things to do the breakdown your studies that you don't even bother reading. I'm pretty sure you got the general idea of my posts that you're dumb.
S.J.WIf every person had to view how their steak, bacon, etc lived for years and how it was killed I'm pretty sure every person would go vegan.
*DUMBCAN*Yeah but that's why I'd advocate buying from better sources. Of course a £3/$5 pack of Danish (I think Mexican is the equivalent for you Americans) factory farmed slices of pig that you picked off the discount shelf in Wall-mart had a hell of a life. I totally wouldn't be against advertising that, in fact I'd like it if there were laws mandating that all meat packaging states the conditions the animals were kept under. Just don't shove it in our faces.
S.J.WI posted a quote from that study which found that even when all variables are factored in, women still earn 6% less. But you said it was taken out of context. Lol, you can't talk about not reading a study when it was clear that I did read it and you didn't read it. Now go back to kindergarten and learn how to spell. "I've much better things", like continuing to be a dyslexic retard?
nocturnalI'm not so butthurt I remember word for word the post or situation that happened 6 months ago. What I do remember is you posting 60 to 150 page studies and not reading the results. Then like allbthreads no one agreed with you. Just like post you made at the top of the page trying to post up another study. We didn't forget about about that. but good job trying to play that off by congratulating the guy who called you out.
Now if you'll excuse me I have my kindergarten homework to do. I think I'll go to Burger King first and get some spicy chicken fries.
