I have the opportunity to get one or the other. if anyone has ever rode the maden if they could let me kn ow how it is that would be great. im 6'0" and 190 lbs. is the maden gonna be to flimsy. i want a ski that will hold its own.
the two skis are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different
made'n = soft and super fun, especially in the pow
ant = i haven't skied it yet, but from what i've heard, you better charge if you ski these bad boys, so strap on your full face and hold onto your balls!
i dont want the jp vs. julien, only the ant or the maden. im a bigger guy, is the maden gonna hold my weight or is it gonna flop around. i have a good deal on the madens but if it will be worth it ill get the ANTs. I wasnt around snow last year so i never got to demo the madens and try em out. i need something stiff, will the maden feel stable with 200 lbs riding on it.
im a huuuuge guy and i ride the maden'AKs in 179 center mounted... they do feel a little soft and chatter a shitload(but thats prolly cause they are center mounted) so if you really want a beefy ski that can handle any condition, i wouldn't recommend these skis. i ride the pistols also i def would say that would be the better and prolly best choice. the new viciouses are extremely versatile and really will be the best option for you, but thats only this humble man's opinion.
You got it slick. I'll keep that in mind once the season starts and I have the option of skiing. Until then, I'll stick to it. At least I try provide actual info when I post as opposed to a majority of others.
Ok, let me get this straight... you're saying if he wants a beefy ski for any condition, he shouldn't get ANTs cause they'll flop around a lot? But he should get Viciouses, because they won't?
I'm not sure I understand whatever language we're speaking here... If you're going to suggest something he hasn't listed, Why aren't people chanting "Gotamas!" or "B-Squads!" or something that compares? I'm confused.
And I nominate Vicious for official equipment pimp of NS. Put it in your sig, man. No offense to other qualified equipment pimps. (I count 4 in this thread so far). You can be the E-Pimp for short! Don't worry, no one will get the wrong idea.
Seems to be some people in this thread who know what they're talking about. I've not demoed much so if anyone could help me out, that would be cool:
I'm heading to Whistler for the whole season in November. For the past 3 years I've skied a 190 V-Pro (similar to the Karma) just 3 or 4 weeks per year in Europe, skiing pretty equal amounts of park, groomed and powder. They've been an awesome ski all round but a bit stiff for park and a bit narrow for serious powder. So I'm thinking about skis for this season. I really want to push my park skiing so I need something a bit softer than the V-Pro. But I still don't want to be too held back much on big powder days. I'm 6'3, 185lbs so I need big skis - I definitely don't want to ski shorter than 185cm anywhere.
Once choice would be one ski for everything - Pistol or Vicious in a 189 would be an obvious choice, 185 Scratch BC, ARVs or 187 MSPs maybe. Dynastar Big Troubles sound nice but their edge strength seems to get a bad write up on here. Mojo 90 and Mantra's dimensions look good too but they'll be too stiff for me to progress a lot in the park.
The other option would be a park pair and powder pair. For park skis I'm very limited because there are very few over 185cm. Chronic Wides seem the best bet in a 187. But for powder skis I'd have a lot of choice. Made'ns, JP/Juliens or Gotamas look good. What do you guys reckon? I have no experience of North American skiing so I don't know how much width I'd need for big powder days. I'm a very experienced and strong skier but prefer big smooth powder turns to charging everything really aggressively.
Supposedly I can rent a full 06/07 setup for $200 for the season because I'm working for a rental shop in Whistler, then either give them back at the end or pay another $300 or so if I want to keep them. So I'll need to see what they can offer me in terms of new product. This might be a better way to do it though because I expect if I got two pairs my park pair will be pretty trashed by the end of the season so if that was the "rented" pair I could give them back and keep the powder pair I buy myself. Any thoughts?
^If I was you, and only considering buying one all around ski, I would look into Made'ns, or Jp vs Juliens if you're leaning towards the fatter side of things. ARV's or Vicious' if you're looking to go a bit skinnier.
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thanks guys you obviously didnt read my post farther down, i have park skis AR5s and all mountain 188 Scratch BC. I got hooked up with a job which will allow me to do some heli and cat skiing and i also ski alot a kicking horse and roger pass area. I got Private messaged that thhe stiffness of the ANT will be similar to the gotama so im gonna go with those since the gotama was a best pow ski i tried next year. thanks for the help.