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Over all a great pow ski. Nimble in the trees, massive snow removal in open bowls. Can handle the groomers with speed ( but i think emotionally they die a little every time it's not a pow day, kind of like me)
I have them powder mounted, but with a center mount I am sure they will kill it trick wise in the backcountry.
for my style this ski is perfect. loves the deep snow, when the snow isn't there , it can really crank some big turns at top speed. Doesn't like to carve well at low speeds. Wouldn't use this product for instructing.
I don't spin much now that I don't have health insurance, but have stomped a few 5's and plenty of 1's in powder. (didn't think I had a chance in hell to land a couple but these things land like picnic tables in a good way)
The twin tip shape is powder specific, fat nose thinner tail, not ideal for switch riding groomers. (weird turn radius switch)
Love the retro backscatcher graphics, looks like a painting above the bed of some roach-motel in a ski town.
Got it on proform, not sure what the retail is, but I am sure it is competitive with similar skis
i have the 181 cm which is a perfect all mountain size. Float is amazing, nimble for the width. On 24''+ days I am sure the 191 would rock even more. I am 6ft 185 lbs Bindings are fischer x17wb.
Stiff enough at top speeds, good edge hold for a pow ski. Has one layer of metal, so really not a butter ski. Has soften up quite a bit after a few seasons. Flexy enough to handle tight tree runs that have been rutted out
been charging hard for a couple season now. No delam, a few coreshots from late season. (great base material very easy to repair.) They have softened up a bit, and don't have as much rebound as the did out of the box. (Approx 130 days skiing)
Buy these. They outski every fat on the market, they rock everything but pipe, and they are hundreds cheaper. that combined with hot looks makes them my favorite ski last season.
The ski works amazing. Perfect edge hold in all conditions, floaty in powder (what 108 waist wouldn't be?) And they are sick for monster 180's over big jumps. They ollie like beasts, and are just a har heavy, but they have titanal in them, so they are going to be. They turn amazing, and rock as a skiing ski. I skied these even on ice days, and practiced switch carves.
The look is flawless, best graphic ever. The construction is bomber, and the side cut is perfect.
The best value fat ski on the market, hundreds cheaper than vokl, and they preform just as well if not better.
I'm 5'10'' and 160. I got 181's and I love them. If I lived out west and I wanted a pure pow board, i would have went 191. But 181 makes a sick and versatile fat ski.
Very stiff under foot, softer nose, but not floppy, and a nice poppy tail.
No base dammage, and a couple scratches, the capped tip/tail, and sidewall is a good choice.
Scott defintily has their shit together. P3's are insane park/all mountain skis and the P4's are sick big mountain skis.
Skied great when we were actually getting snow, good flotation in the pow, with a stiff nose to blow through the crud. Fun to take through the park if youre going to be jumping, but rails are little more difficult due to length and weight.
Love how the ski looks. Dope old skool graphic on a topsheet material I havent seen on other skis. Weight is the only serious issue with these skis. 171 P4's weighed considerably more than longer length skis in the same category i.e. 4Frnt VCT, Armada Jp vs. Julien.
I got a super good deal on these, $460 for 191s. Lack of snow has made it so I don't get the chance to ride them much however.
Nice stiff nose and a good poppy flex in the tail. Great for blowing through any snow conditions. In the park, poppy tail makes it fun for jumping but swing weight is an issue.
Super bomb proof skis. No delamming anywhere on the ski and very minor sidewall damage after ~20 days on them.