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I have been on these for a few days this year so far. Two hardpack/variable days and one powder day. I am 6'3 190 lbs, and have the 184 mounted with Duke's. These skis do not mess around as far as edge grip is concerned. On my second day I detuned the shovel and tail rocker on my second day out to make them a little less grabby up front and that was a good move. They are extremely stable at speed, but I feel like they still retain a bit of the newschool elements of the older seth in that the balance point of the mid sole line feels more centered than you might expect for such a directional ski. I like that, I would have been disappointed in a fat race ski with tip rocker. There is a lot of tip rocker and taper. I had never skied a ski with this much taper before it is pretty cool. I did a nose butter 360 over a roller in powder and the way the tips release in the snow is worth writing about. The deep snow performance is everything you would expect. The only thing that might sway you from buying these is the freestyle performance. There is not really a twin tip just a bit of tail rocker. They ski switch better than I expected but the tails will dig in on quick transition or in powder or variable snow. Also at nearly 200 lbs I can barely flex them. I would enjoy these more if I had been hitting the gym more. Overall I am really happy with these skis they are what they say they are. No speed limit, great float in powder, really smart shape I am impressed.