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Whole lotta sellouts

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percs
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It’s still crazy to me seeing grown men post things on tik Tok. But seeing alex Haeckel posting “apparently the first two people who pop up when you hit share want to ski pow with you” followed by pow stock footage was my tipping point. Like bro you car so much about anonymous people who don’t even ski. Making the caption all relatable n shit for people wh on go skiing once every 3 years. Like the fake likes mean that much to you? Where you need to angle your whole creative process to match the mainstream clicks? All I’m saying is that alex hackel used to be core af but tik tok really got to him. Lame

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Mar 14 2023 7:56AM
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percs
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Also I don’t go on til tok I’m calling his Instagram reels tik toks cause they probably were
Mar 14 2023 8:02AM
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percs
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Ur a sellout bro everyone knows you’re not good enough to be at x games. You’re just there cause you’re a social media degen
Mar 14 2023 8:13AM
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KilaTsunami
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AHall said on two planner podcast that he hates tiktok, and that you won’t see him on there… solidifying his position as the realest (once again)
Mar 14 2023 8:24AM
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tutipups
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no friends on a pow day
Mar 14 2023 8:56AM
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SofaKingSick
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hey guys does anyone else hate social media made for teenagers or am i just that special that i see through the bullshit?

also i'm not on it, i just know things about it that make it sound like i am on it. cause i hate it, remember?
Mar 14 2023 9:07AM
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hi_vis360
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What’s your take on Candide making ads for Audi that feature no skiing on actual snow?
Mar 14 2023 9:29AM
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tominiemenmaa
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Audi might have given a dime for two for it and I doubt TikTok money is even comparable to that. Not saying neither of the guys are sellouts in my opinion, but that's an unfair comparison.
hi_vis360What’s your take on Candide making ads for Audi that feature no skiing on actual snow?
Mar 14 2023 10:11AM
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hi_vis360
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tominiemenmaaAudi might have given a dime for two for it and I doubt TikTok money is even comparable to that. Not saying neither of the guys are sellouts in my opinion, but that's an unfair comparison.


A dime or two?? The title of video is literally “Candide thovex - Quattro 2”
Mar 14 2023 10:16AM
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bennwithtwons
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The vast majority of skiers do not make money skiing. That includes probably everyone on this thread. If there are opportunities for professional skiers to make money while people still care about their skiing exploits, I can look past the occasional dalliance with more cringe-enducing types of media.

A few pros might make enough during their careers to have an early retirement, whatever that might mean for them. Others will definitely move into long-term positions in the ski industry. However, I'd say that the majority will endure a similar fate to the majority of athletes in any sport - they are pro for a short period of time and have to transition back into the 'real world' and find a job. If all you've done since you were 14 is ski, I suspect that is a tough transition. All of this is to say that if you've got to push your clips all over the internet to get a few extra bucks in the bank right now, I'm fine with it. I guarantee that hackel's favorite part about his life is the skiing, not the posting.
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Nic_Sutter
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I feel the same way about social media. Like I don't mind scanning Facebook when I'm taking a dump to see who got married, where my college friends are at, liking pics of my nieces at Disney World, etc. The thing I can't get into is just the incessant scrolling, emoji reactions, soliloquies, uneducated literature, and bullshit characters that make TikTok and Instagram what they are. I'd rather watch videos of skiing trick tips and actually LEARN stuff. Social media just keeps you dumb.
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CantThinkOfaName
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Alex hackle was one of my favorites seemed like a cool guy, this ruins it for me, we don’t need another Andrew spaghetti
Mar 14 2023 11:16AM
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-Dan
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It’s fine if you don’t like it. I don’t fw it either. I’m willing to bet that you don’t get a body wash sponsor strictly from street parts tho. So with that in mind it’s prolly not for the likes and more likely so he can afford to be a pro skier. The old Don’t hate the player, Hate the game situation.
Mar 14 2023 11:48AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I got my thread taken down last time I mentioned him. I’m sitting this one out.
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Sethoscope
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ive been seeing the same 3 knuckle huck clips from hackel for the last 2 months on instagram and tiktok
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eheath
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-DanIt’s fine if you don’t like it. I don’t fw it either. I’m willing to bet that you don’t get a body wash sponsor strictly from street parts tho. So with that in mind it’s prolly not for the likes and more likely so he can afford to be a pro skier. The old Don’t hate the player, Hate the game situation.


This.

@percs you're a crusty old head that posts tons of stupid takes like this one, so I'm gonna keep this short, but without hackel selling out to instagram he'd be pursuing a career and not skiing. Same goes for every other pro skier you love, they are just trying to survive in a brand driven industry, there are very little ways to make money in the ski industry these days and you should be happy that your favorite skiers can make any money at all.
Mar 14 2023 12:44PM
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yvngBJEA
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SofaKingSickhey guys does anyone else hate social media made for teenagers or am i just that special that i see through the bullshit?

also i'm not on it, i just know things about it that make it sound like i am on it. cause i hate it, remember?


i also hate it, its ruining society
no one wants to do anything, just mindlessly scroll through tik tok or reels.

**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2023 at 12:49:29pm
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IsaacNW82
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Mar 14 2023 1:02PM
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SteezyYeeter
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whats wrong with candide doing the commercial. those 2 are sick (except for that one statue shot in the second one which is fake asf)
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Neihartcatshart1
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Nobody’s core anymore so they have to dumb it down for a bigger audience bc it’s a business and all they want is money
Mar 14 2023 1:14PM
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CarsonLentz
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KilaTsunamiAHall said on two planner podcast that he hates tiktok, and that you won’t see him on there… solidifying his position as the realest (once again)


A Hall did say this but ironically he was in this one tik tok micd up interview this one kid I ski with does for fun.
Mar 14 2023 1:17PM
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MastePoleWhacker
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SteezyYeeterwhats wrong with candide doing the commercial. those 2 are sick (except for that one statue shot in the second one which is fake asf)

Yeah those are rad I don’t have anything wrong with it. It’s different cause it’s actually impressive shit going on unlike the hackel tiktok
Mar 14 2023 2:07PM
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tominiemenmaa
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My point exactly. Candide must have made very good cash from skiing and I highly doubt Hackel has made even a percent of that. An unfair comparison.
hi_vis360A dime or two?? The title of video is literally “Candide thovex - Quattro 2”
Mar 14 2023 2:13PM
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andreas_hipkins
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percsUr a sellout bro everyone knows you’re not good enough to be at x games. You’re just there cause you’re a social media degen


Your really that mad you’ll never be as good as him, stay salty homie
Mar 14 2023 4:02PM
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hi_vis360
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SteezyYeeterwhats wrong with candide doing the commercial. those 2 are sick (except for that one statue shot in the second one which is fake asf)

I have 0 beef with it I would take an Audi sponsorship in a heartbeat lmao
tominiemenmaaMy point exactly. Candide must have made very good cash from skiing and I highly doubt Hackel has made even a percent of that. An unfair comparison.

I get what you’re saying now. I still think it’s a similar situation, dudes are just trying to have a career
Mar 14 2023 5:48PM
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KilaTsunami
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CarsonLentzA Hall did say this but ironically he was in this one tik tok micd up interview this one kid I ski with does for fun.


Yeah cuz he’s a G and understands not everyone can be as real as he is, so he threw him a bone.
Mar 14 2023 8:00PM
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Christian_Bale
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percsUr a sellout bro everyone knows you’re not good enough to be at x games. You’re just there cause you’re a social media degen

I don't like this shit either but I kinda get it if you're tryna sell skis and get your company off the ground.
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fucintight
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i agree but it also depends on how you use it. there's some real good shit on ig that you cant rly find most other places
Nic_SutterI feel the same way about social media. Like I don't mind scanning Facebook when I'm taking a dump to see who got married, where my college friends are at, liking pics of my nieces at Disney World, etc. The thing I can't get into is just the incessant scrolling, emoji reactions, soliloquies, uneducated literature, and bullshit characters that make TikTok and Instagram what they are. I'd rather watch videos of skiing trick tips and actually LEARN stuff. Social media just keeps you dumb.
Mar 15 2023 1:03AM
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hank.ski
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😂😂😂
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Mar 15 2023 2:03AM
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realSlimshadyfr
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hi_vis360What’s your take on Candide making ads for Audi that feature no skiing on actual snow?


thats different. its Candide.
Mar 15 2023 3:44AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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IsaacNW82



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olddirty
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No 1 cares about being "core" when your mommy and daddy aren't paying for everything. Once you grow up and find out you need to make money to live your "core" standards don't mean shit. The posts are most likely an effort to grow 1000 skis which he is part owner.
Mar 15 2023 10:56AM
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olddirty
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hi_vis360What’s your take on Candide making ads for Audi that feature no skiing on actual snow?


Its called making money
Mar 15 2023 10:58AM
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cool270out
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Hackel is the reason I have to keep deleting Instagram. Cringe is an extreme understatement. If he can’t be a pro without being a tiktok bitch then he shouldn’t be a pro
Mar 15 2023 11:13AM
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olddirty
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cool270outHackel is the reason I have to keep deleting Instagram. Cringe is an extreme understatement. If he can’t be a pro without being a tiktok bitch then he shouldn’t be a pro


waaah he shouldn't be pro waaah, what are you going to do?
Mar 15 2023 11:22AM
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cool270out
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olddirtywaaah he shouldn't be pro waaah, what are you going to do?

Uhhh I’ll be happy about it. His style is trash
Mar 15 2023 11:38AM
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CoolChillGuy420
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It's the new-age of ski industry marketing and it's here to stay. No different than multi-page spreads in ski magazines and producing yearly ski flicks every season. It's just that its waaaay easier on overhead costs for the companies involved and the skiers only have to game the algorithm in order to produce results.

You could also just like not pay attention. This goes for oldheads and young kids worried about not being "core" enough. This industry has a lot worse shit going on behind the scenes than some tiktok videos. And I'm willing to bet you felt the same way about Tanner Hall when he first signed with Red Bull a long time ago, as well as other skiers in the past that made lucrative career moves. If you put your body through the ringer and helped promote your brands day in/out, you'd probably want to be fairly compensated too.

**This post was edited on Mar 15th 2023 at 12:10:20pm
Mar 15 2023 12:08PM
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mitt.nedlum
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I understand what everyone is saying about the need to post on tiktok and instagram to be a pro skier nowadays but I think there is a way to do it tastefully. When I saw this Hackel instagram post I didn't even realize it was him, I thought it was just another account which pushes basic skiing videos that beg people to share with "people you would ski pow with" Maybe there is a happy medium where skiers can post videos of their skiing on instagram with it still being cool but I just don't think this is it.
Mar 15 2023 1:33PM
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skiguy04
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Close your eyes idk
Mar 15 2023 1:59PM
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Brocka_Flocka
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last time I checked Hackel is an owner of a start-up ski brand.

yall are mad at someone for trying to grow a rider-owned and driven brand into a mainstay within the industry at large 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Mar 15 2023 2:29PM
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percs
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eheathThis.

@percs you're a crusty old head that posts tons of stupid takes like this one, so I'm gonna keep this short, but without hackel selling out to instagram he'd be pursuing a career and not skiing. Same goes for every other pro skier you love, they are just trying to survive in a brand driven industry, there are very little ways to make money in the ski industry these days and you should be happy that your favorite skiers can make any money at all.


1. im 23
2. ur older than me
3. ur overweight
Mar 15 2023 3:06PM
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eheath
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percs1. im 23
2. ur older than me
3. ur overweight


youve been on NS for over 10 years, you're an old head and post dogshit takes almost every time you post. dweeb.
Mar 15 2023 3:13PM
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MastePoleWhacker
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Hackel is obviously filthy at skiing and I don’t fault him for being on tik tok. I think he should totally be posting clips on there cause that’s the way to reach the youth nowadays, ns isn’t that big of a website and posting only “core” places will get you all of 5 people. In general though I don’t like the “first 3 people to pop up when” posts and he could probably get the same attention by posting clips of him /the rest of the bunch/ 1000 skis crew doing some rad shit. Mad respect to him nonetheless
Mar 15 2023 3:21PM
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olddirty
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eheathyouve been on NS for over 10 years, you're an old head and post dogshit takes almost every time you post. dweeb.


At Newschoolers “dogshit takes” means you are trying to talk sense into bum fucks that think skiing is life.
Mar 15 2023 3:21PM
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percs
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olddirtyAt Newschoolers “dogshit takes” means you are trying to talk sense into bum fucks that think skiing is life.


this guy gets it
Mar 15 2023 3:26PM
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eheath
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percsthis guy gets it


and you clearly do not
Mar 15 2023 3:30PM
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percs
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eheathand you clearly do not


oops i thought he was talking about something else. but clearly i already made my point

**This post was edited on Mar 15th 2023 at 3:56:47pm
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percs
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being core is about staying true to yourself
Mar 15 2023 3:55PM
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percs
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so apparently being a click baity person is perfectly fine cause then you get moneyy. lets teach everyone how to be hacks so we can make money off eachother it will be great. whatever you gotta do for some money.... you see where that goes
Mar 15 2023 4:05PM
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eheath
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percsso apparently being a click baity person is perfectly fine cause then you get moneyy. lets teach everyone how to be hacks so we can make money off eachother it will be great. whatever you gotta do for some money.... you see where that goes


would you rather you favorite skiers not ski for a living? how do you expect them to support themselves?
Mar 15 2023 5:20PM
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bogust
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hi_vis360I have 0 beef with it I would take an Audi sponsorship in a heartbeat lmao

I get what you’re saying now. I still think it’s a similar situation, dudes are just trying to have a career

The difference is despite Quattro being an ad it’s still sick as fuck original content while skiing TikTok is low effort copy and pasted marketing.
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