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All my lifting friends hate on skiing and my ski friends don’t lift. Consider this a gym gabber for skiers, so post pr’s, maxes, tips, and all things lifting
MastePoleWhackerI want to bulk my calves, but they’re already a little bit too large for the cuffs of my ski boots, and I don’t want to have to drop money on new boots. It’s tough out here.
ReturnToMonkeyBeen working my calves since 8th grade and used a seated calf machine for the first time yesterday, they're hella overrated. Just made my knees hurt more and I didn't feel like it worked as well. Was also introduced to the concept of using the leg press machine for calf raises which worked pretty well, but I still feel like free weights on a ledge works the best for full range of motion and balance
**This post was edited on Dec 9th 2022 at 7:12:25pm
This 100%. Also unfortunately calves are 99% genetics, unless you hop on gear and magically grow every part of your body. Some kids who don't train them at all will have naturally beefier and more defined calves than someone who trains them 2x per week
I recently discovered post workout stretching and doing occasional yoga on rest days and it makes me not hate life so much. So much of my muscle soreness that I attributed to lactic acid really just came from being knotted up like a ball of rubber bands.
So if you find yourself in a place where you’re often too sore to lift give stretching a try.
whiteboiThis 100%. Also unfortunately calves are 99% genetics, unless you hop on gear and magically grow every part of your body. Some kids who don't train them at all will have naturally beefier and more defined calves than someone who trains them 2x per week
mfs will say "my calves too small" then struggle to squat 275
I got an important question. Do yall hit leg days during ski season / while skiing 3 or so days a week? Or do you just consider skiing leg day? If you do legs during the season, then what’s your strategy?
Not a gym-rat per se, but I do try to get to the gym twice a week year-round bc I think it helps with sports (I also downhill mountain bike all summer so there is very little time of year I'm not outside and active 2-3 days a week).
Never went to gym until I was 20yo and bored as hell as a cadet on ship, and only picked it up again this august after not going for years so I do not have any crazy numbers but as someone who grew up as a wacky flailing arm inflatable tube man they get me stoked:
Bench 165
Squat 255
Deadlift 275
Hex Bar Deadlift 350
At 155 BW with no belt. Unfortunately due to a broken collarbone with a metal plate in it, front squats and anything with a heavy bar near the collarbone is kindof a no-go.
This year has me stoked bc I feel like I got a good mix of the real sport I'm training for, gym time, and rest time, and that mix has made great progress already. The only thing that gets tricky for me is eating enough to keep up, its not uncommon for me to drop to ~145 BW during ski season bc I can't eat enough to maintain. That's the funny thing about genetics, seems like you either struggle to eat less and stay thin or you struggle to eat more and bulk up.
STEEZUS_CHRI5TI'm so tired of eating chicken, burgers, and deli meat. Any suggestions?
I mean I think chicken is king of quality protein per cost, so nothing can really top that IMO but here's some stuff I eat:
-I really like marinating lean beef in KBBQ sauce, cutting into thin strips, and grilling it, freaking delicious
-Eggs, either in an omlettle with onions/cilantro/green chile or soft-boiled and marinated like a ramen egg (mirin/soy sauce mix)
-Cottage cheese is like roughly ~50% protein by calories, reasonably dense, and fairly cheap
-I know some idiot will get mad over this, but Tofu is like 50% protein and absolutely dirt cheap, doesn't taste like much so you need to flavor it for sure. Marinated in gochujang and air fried or baked is awesome
-Seitan is damn near 100% wheat protein, not a high quality protein but there is at least lots of it. Also doesn't taste like much
-Probably the worse one here bc it is much more fatty than protein-y, but chorizo cooked up, then add cheese, rice, cilantro, lime juice and sour cream and it makes one hell of a burrito. Probably no worse than a burger tho, maybe
MastePoleWhackerI got an important question. Do yall hit leg days during ski season / while skiing 3 or so days a week? Or do you just consider skiing leg day? If you do legs during the season, then what’s your strategy?
Do whatever your program says to.
You can go ski after a squat/deadlift session.
It's ok to scale back on intensity, hitting heavy singles and maxing out PRs probably not a good idea.
Strong hamstrings reduce your risk of knee injuries.
IsaacNW82I mean I think chicken is king of quality protein per cost, so nothing can really top that IMO but here's some stuff I eat:
-I really like marinating lean beef in KBBQ sauce, cutting into thin strips, and grilling it, freaking delicious
-Eggs, either in an omlettle with onions/cilantro/green chile or soft-boiled and marinated like a ramen egg (mirin/soy sauce mix)
-Cottage cheese is like roughly ~50% protein by calories, reasonably dense, and fairly cheap
-I know some idiot will get mad over this, but Tofu is like 50% protein and absolutely dirt cheap, doesn't taste like much so you need to flavor it for sure. Marinated in gochujang and air fried or baked is awesome
-Seitan is damn near 100% wheat protein, not a high quality protein but there is at least lots of it. Also doesn't taste like much
-Probably the worse one here bc it is much more fatty than protein-y, but chorizo cooked up, then add cheese, rice, cilantro, lime juice and sour cream and it makes one hell of a burrito. Probably no worse than a burger tho, maybe
I don’t like cheese, tofu, or eggs unfortunately. I’ll try the beef route though
MastePoleWhackerI got an important question. Do yall hit leg days during ski season / while skiing 3 or so days a week? Or do you just consider skiing leg day? If you do legs during the season, then what’s your strategy?
i try to plan leg day to be atleast 1-2 days before skiing again with push/pull days (once a week) also on nonskiing days. Rn im just lifting to stay strong though not really to get any bigger or stronger
I know this is gay as fuck but the slideboards (i don't know the english name) boomers and slalom skiers use are really good. I do it all year around. the movement is so spesific, I can't get it from anywhere else.
.sunnyI know this is gay as fuck but the slideboards (i don't know the english name) boomers and slalom skiers use are really good. I do it all year around. the movement is so spesific, I can't get it from anywhere else.
those look crazy fun, we need a park version that lifts you off the ground and turns you
Remember the days you can just roll up to GNC as a minor and buy a tub of amphetamines before blasting bicep tricep supersets to skrillex?
Now kids listen to lofi bedwetter beats on Spotify while sucking the nut out of a juul every 30 seconds. Y'all got soft af and there's no convincing my boomer ass otherwise.
STEEZUS_CHRI5TFish is probably my best option. Just less bang for buck. Especially salmon. Expensive and it takes a lot to make you full.
I think you get about the same protein / bang for your buck ratio with chicken and cod. The cod i get is wild caught. Be careful with cheap chicken too - some of that shit is nasty and raised completely inhumanely. If you're buying decent chicken it gets sort of expensive now a days.
Salmon is more expensive as well but fucking delicious. I was buying cheap salmon and saw that it was coming from China and almost puked it all up.
MastePoleWhackerBuddy and I just had the most fucked shoulder workout, the pump was insane. Big lateral raise supersets and alternating drop sets on each arm
Try cable lateral raises with the D-ring attachment starting at hand level, if that makes any sense. I thought I could do pretty heavy lateral raises but that shit humbled me real quick.
STEEZUS_CHRI5TNeed calf building advice. We have a stair stepper, smith machine, DBs but no seated calf machine...
Seated calf press is probably one of the most useless machines to ever exist in a gym. If you have a dedicated calf raise machine where the weight sits on your shoulders, that's what works best for me. Next would be a smith machine standing on the edge of some weights or whatever you wanna use, then leg press, then using free weights on a ledge.
Just hit them hard like you would any other muscle. I tend to go for higher reps around 12-15 because that's what burns most.
Sorry for the spam, I just really like talking about gym stuff lol
STEEZUS_CHRI5TI'm so tired of eating chicken, burgers, and deli meat. Any suggestions?
Fish is too expensive.
**This post was edited on Dec 7th 2022 at 11:11:09pm
tbh most of my meals are chicken n rice but I like to make shit actually tastes good. If I'm eating just chicken and rice I like to use boneless, skinless thighs with cilantro lime rice, season the fuck out of the chicken, and I like to put some sort of chipotle hot sauce in it too. I also like to make Japanese curry with rice, idk if you have "Japanese golden curry" near you but that shit smacks with some rice, potatoes, onions, garlic, and habaneros. Since it's been cold as fuck outside, I've been making beef stew with a bunch of veggies and bone broth for extra protein. And another chicken and rice recipe is a bunch of roasted veggies with hot sauce, fat-free greek yogurt, lime juice, garlic, onions, jalapenos, and rice. For breakfast, I do overnight oats with protein powder, greek yogurt, almond milk, and chia seeds, and switch it up with different fruits or even Oreos. If you get the ratio right it has the same consistency as pudding, not for everyone but I enjoy it.
.CJ.Seated calf press is probably one of the most useless machines to ever exist in a gym. If you have a dedicated calf raise machine where the weight sits on your shoulders, that's what works best for me. Next would be a smith machine standing on the edge of some weights or whatever you wanna use, then leg press, then using free weights on a ledge.
Just hit them hard like you would any other muscle. I tend to go for higher reps around 12-15 because that's what burns most.
Standing on plates? Also with the bar on your back or front?
STEEZUS_CHRI5TStanding on plates? Also with the bar on your back or front?
Put one or two plates on top of each other near a wall, hold dumbbells in your hands. Put the front of your foot on the ledge created by the plates then just go through the whole range of motion, trying to only active your calves. Pick the plates so you can get as low as possible before your heels hit the ground. You can also use stairs or other kinds of ledges
Flies are really nice and using that kind of machine or cables provides consistent resistance through the range of motion compared to dumbbell flies. It's also nice to do flies for the back
DayManI feel like I get the best chest activation from flys (flyes?) specifically this machine because I can go heavier than db flys
That being said incline db bench is my favorite chest movement at the moment
My friend is telling me that doing some leg work on non-leg days is taking away from overall gains even tho I feel like that's false. He says doing certain muscle groups together takes away blood flow from one or the other, taking away gains. Is this true? I mean I'm not body building, I'm training for skiing. I don't really care if my shoulders take longer to look bigger. I want my cliff drops to look bigger. But I feel like if I still have energy to spend but my shoulders are totally exhausted, I might as well use it on my quads. Right?
Also I think curling is giving me tennis elbow and the best way to fix it is to go down in weight. I am only curling 15 lbs and it's already embarrassing. I don't really wanna go down in curling weight. What should I do? Stop being a bitch? Only curl at home? Let my biceps be forever weak?
ReturnToMonkeyMy friend is telling me that doing some leg work on non-leg days is taking away from overall gains even tho I feel like that's false. He says doing certain muscle groups together takes away blood flow from one or the other, taking away gains. Is this true? I mean I'm not body building, I'm training for skiing. I don't really care if my shoulders take longer to look bigger. I want my cliff drops to look bigger. But I feel like if I still have energy to spend but my shoulders are totally exhausted, I might as well use it on my quads. Right?
Also I think curling is giving me tennis elbow and the best way to fix it is to go down in weight. I am only curling 15 lbs and it's already embarrassing. I don't really wanna go down in curling weight. What should I do? Stop being a bitch? Only curl at home? Let my biceps be forever weak?
if your elbow is hurting from working out you might wanna take a break. Or at least tend to it by rolling it out on a ball or stretching.
ReturnToMonkeyMy friend is telling me that doing some leg work on non-leg days is taking away from overall gains even tho I feel like that's false. He says doing certain muscle groups together takes away blood flow from one or the other, taking away gains. Is this true? I mean I'm not body building, I'm training for skiing. I don't really care if my shoulders take longer to look bigger. I want my cliff drops to look bigger. But I feel like if I still have energy to spend but my shoulders are totally exhausted, I might as well use it on my quads. Right?
Also I think curling is giving me tennis elbow and the best way to fix it is to go down in weight. I am only curling 15 lbs and it's already embarrassing. I don't really wanna go down in curling weight. What should I do? Stop being a bitch? Only curl at home? Let my biceps be forever weak?
ur friend is dumb
and
curls are a pointless exercise go hit bench or overhead press
ReturnToMonkeyMy friend is telling me that doing some leg work on non-leg days is taking away from overall gains even tho I feel like that's false. He says doing certain muscle groups together takes away blood flow from one or the other, taking away gains. Is this true? I mean I'm not body building, I'm training for skiing. I don't really care if my shoulders take longer to look bigger. I want my cliff drops to look bigger. But I feel like if I still have energy to spend but my shoulders are totally exhausted, I might as well use it on my quads. Right?
Also I think curling is giving me tennis elbow and the best way to fix it is to go down in weight. I am only curling 15 lbs and it's already embarrassing. I don't really wanna go down in curling weight. What should I do? Stop being a bitch? Only curl at home? Let my biceps be forever weak?
High and low Cable curls, close grip pull ups.
Also tricep extensions aren't bicep exercises but can really help with elbow pain.
Don't worry about light weight and high reps. Nobody cares what you're lifting.
first day back in the gym since before the accident and before the acl tears 💯the fact that I can still bench 225 with a broken scapula and 3 broken ribs, as well as still being down 25 lbs cuz of the hospital and recovery (I’m 155 lbs rn I’m normally 180) is pretty fucking amazing lmfao. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1060253/trim-D1D6A375-7EEE-4986-9A6D-8C2EC25A42BC-MOV
**This post was edited on Jan 6th 2023 at 12:07:25am
Shoot. This makes me want to get back to the gym. Used to olympic lift a ton and had some half decent numbers.
Squat: 425
DL: 525
Snatch: 265
C+J: 315
That said, this summer, I focused a ton on cardio (running, gravel biking and mtb) and dropped about 50lbs. Not as strong as I once was, but feel better in everyday life.
saskskierShoot. This makes me want to get back to the gym. Used to olympic lift a ton and had some half decent numbers.
Squat: 425
DL: 525
Snatch: 265
C+J: 315
That said, this summer, I focused a ton on cardio (running, gravel biking and mtb) and dropped about 50lbs. Not as strong as I once was, but feel better in everyday life.
