Armada JJ vs. JJ UL

i am by no means a pow or tour skier, but it sounds like you could benefit from both. If you're not doing crazy long tours the JJ might be fine(you might not need the UL). Again, not a pow or tour skier by any means, but that's just what I can say from doing research on the two.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/In-Depth-Review-2022-Armada-Whitewalker-JJ-Ultralight-Roofbox

some discussion on the UL in here. It gets thrown around a bit in variable snow conditions, and probably at higher speeds as well. Could be worth looking at the Whitewalker for tour ability but a bit more stability than the UL.

I would say very generally speaking, lightweight ski construction sucks inbounds. It gets deflected easily, and it rules out using damper ski materials that help reduce chatter and keep a ski composed in mixed-to-bad conditions. The biggest benefit I see is less weight to drag with your feet on tours.

How will you be using these, and with what bindings? If you're 70% resort or more, and are on heavier high-performance tour bindings like CAST/Duke PT, I'd go for the JJ's. If you are >50% tour and looking at full pin bindings, I'd go JJ UL.

IsaacNW82I would say very generally speaking, lightweight ski construction sucks inbounds. It gets deflected easily, and it rules out using damper ski materials that help reduce chatter and keep a ski composed in mixed-to-bad conditions. The biggest benefit I see is less weight to drag with your feet on tours.

How will you be using these, and with what bindings? If you're 70% resort or more, and are on heavier high-performance tour bindings like CAST/Duke PT, I'd go for the JJ's. If you are >50% tour and looking at full pin bindings, I'd go JJ UL.

Thank you for your comment! I thought to use it with shift binding regardless of the model.

That is what I am mostly worried about. However, I hoped that jj ul would be stiff enough for my weight.

Niko11Thank you for your comment! I thought to use it with shift binding regardless of the model.

That is what I am mostly worried about. However, I hoped that jj ul would be stiff enough for my weight.

I’ve had experience on the UL’s and I own the regular JJ’s. The UL is a lot softer and less stable at speed (albeit a good bit lighter) than the standard ski. You’d prolly be better off on the standard ski

The UL feels better on the way up and down touring. I love it as my touring ski. Always feel so so great. Charging in the resort? I have whitewalkers and declivity x. Thank you