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WoFlowz
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Anyone know how much it would actually cost to open one? Especially once big enough for a top to bottom park and top to bottom bump/freestyle line. Cause you could probably make Good money off teams tryna train in the summer
May 11 2022 10:14AM
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PsychicMigration
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If your a team and have that kinda money they probably would just go to hood or somewhere with snow. besides they gotta be cold might as well enjoy skiing in warm weather when you can.
May 11 2022 10:35AM
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LOOK_at_me
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This might be able to help. I would definitely be cheaper if you are making a dry slope because you wouldn't have to pay for a groomer and snowmaking.
https://hladvisors.com/dry-ski-slopes-indoor-skiing-without-snow/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20makers%20of,at%20150%20feet%20in%20length.
May 11 2022 10:36AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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A lot. Giant refrigerator running non-stop
May 11 2022 5:41PM
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eheath
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yeah because there are so many indoor parks with a 22ft pipe and a full sized slopestyle run smh my head.
May 11 2022 5:54PM
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rojo.grande
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eheathyeah because there are so many indoor parks with a 22ft pipe and a full sized slopestyle run smh my head.


Big snow Jersey has a top to bottom park, granted the length is about the size of an average bunny slope but they still manage to jam 10-15 legit features on it at any given time
May 12 2022 9:50AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Team training is not where your cash flow would come from as an indoor slope. It has to be near a densely populated area, which is why NJ works. The beauty of the indoor slope is people being able to learn to ski or refine technique without having to spend thousands going to a resort. Lessons and recreational skiers is where the income would be. As mentioned already, they really are not ideal, although not useless as training facilities. Refrigeration and snowmaking costs would be astronomical. Having guaranteed mass amounts of skier visits is always a safer bet than trying to attract athletes. Where pros come in would be hosting a demo event at one of these facilities to build stoke and hopefully retain people in the sport.
May 12 2022 10:00AM
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Paul.
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eheathyeah because there are so many indoor parks with a 22ft pipe and a full sized slopestyle run


I mean it's not 22 feet but the indoor pipe at Kamui Misaka seems like it played a role in the success of Ayumu and Kaishu Hirano
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shaking my head my head.
May 12 2022 2:49PM
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eheath
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Paul.I mean it's not 22 feet but the indoor pipe at Kamui Misaka seems like it played a role in the success of Ayumu and Kaishu Hirano

shaking my head my head.


I mean thats not what we're talking about, at all. Nobody at the US team is gonna say "this pipe is only 12 ft but lets spend millions of dollars to get our entire team their for 3 months in the summer" of course you could train in an indoor slope, but nobody at that level is getting better on 10ft jumps and a 6ft QP.

If you think the Hirano's got to where they are because of indoor slopes idk what to tell you, the japan team is travelling constantly, in the US all winter, etc the best of the best travel to the best of the best.
May 12 2022 3:10PM
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eheath
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Paul.shaking my head my head.

and thats the joke dude haha
May 12 2022 3:10PM
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WoFlowz
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eheathI mean thats not what we're talking about, at all. Nobody at the US team is gonna say "this pipe is only 12 ft but lets spend millions of dollars to get our entire team their for 3 months in the summer" of course you could train in an indoor slope, but nobody at that level is getting better on 10ft jumps and a 6ft QP.

If you think the Hirano's got to where they are because of indoor slopes idk what to tell you, the japan team is travelling constantly, in the US all winter, etc the best of the best travel to the best of the best.


I was talking more local teams. Almost every mtn in the east has a freestyle program. Having a bump line/bump jump might make money, considering how many teams travel to placid for ramp camp
May 12 2022 3:38PM
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Brother_trucker
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WoFlowzAnyone know how much it would actually cost to open one? Especially once big enough for a top to bottom park and top to bottom bump/freestyle line. Cause you could probably make Good money off teams tryna train in the summer


It depends how you go about it. You could just put together a load of water ramps for summer training. That would be an excellent way to train for jumps. Then you could easily use dendix or snow flex for a rail line setup.
May 12 2022 3:41PM
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WoFlowz
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baz25216It depends how you go about it. You could just put together a load of water ramps for summer training. That would be an excellent way to train for jumps. Then you could easily use dendix or snow flex for a rail line setup.


I’m talking about freestyle freestyle not park cause the amount of money the freestyle families Ik have is nuts. Except they probably would just send their kids to hood
May 12 2022 3:43PM
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Paul.
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eheathI mean thats not what we're talking about, at all. Nobody at the US team is gonna say "this pipe is only 12 ft but lets spend millions of dollars to get our entire team their for 3 months in the summer" of course you could train in an indoor slope, but nobody at that level is getting better on 10ft jumps and a 6ft QP.

If you think the Hirano's got to where they are because of indoor slopes idk what to tell you, the japan team is travelling constantly, in the US all winter, etc the best of the best travel to the best of the best.

I mean the thread is literally titled “Indoor slopes” so yeah, an indoor halfpipe is kind of exactly what were talking about here. Also, you are the only person in here talking about the US team, a full slopestyle course, and a 22ft halfpipe. Obviously a national team isn’t going to choose some fridge to train in. On the other hand some local east coast freestyle teams might find an indoor park to be a perfect training facility in the off season.

And no, obviously I dont think the Hiranos got where they are entirely because of the kamui misaka pipe. That would be ridiculous and is also not what I said at all. However, you can’t deny that growing up using a year-round indoor halfpipe likely had some influence on their snowboarding abilities
eheathand thats the joke dude haha


wow good 1
May 12 2022 3:54PM
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Zeaton
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LOOK_at_meThis might be able to help. I would definitely be cheaper if you are making a dry slope because you wouldn't have to pay for a groomer and snowmaking.
https://hladvisors.com/dry-ski-slopes-indoor-skiing-without-snow/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20makers%20of,at%20150%20feet%20in%20length.


40-100 a square foot? Msnow is cheaper than that
May 12 2022 10:48PM
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skiP.E.I.
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WoFlowzthey probably would just send their kids to hood

This is it. People with the kind of money to drop on a team that does summer training aren't all that likely to have it be in a crowded fridge.
May 12 2022 11:12PM
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Matthewbyrne1
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WoFlowzI was talking more local teams. Almost every mtn in the east has a freestyle program. Having a bump line/bump jump might make money, considering how many teams travel to placid for ramp camp


I live in placid and i probably haven't hit those ramps in 5-6 years, don't like that shit for some reason
May 12 2022 11:24PM
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