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Ford Electric Motor

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Turd__Authority
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https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9000-MACHE

Anyone heard of this? Released last year but super cool concept and might make going electric more affordable. I wonder how much it would cost to convert a gasoline car to electric since this isn't the only part required. Also pretty impressive performance too.
May 4 2022 3:07AM
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r00kie
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I need an engineer somewhere to design a bolt on kit that puts these and a battery pack into early 2000s subarus.
May 4 2022 10:01AM
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No.Quarter
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r00kieI need an engineer somewhere to design a bolt on kit that puts these and a battery pack into early 2000s subarus.


I do think these electric motor conversions are going to take off in the car modding world, or even just for daily driven vehicles. It wouldn't be all that complex (relatively) mechanically to attach an electric motor to most transmissions, but having a transmission connected to an electric motor is a bit silly.
What would be really cool is if this electric motor could be installed in place of the Subaru transmission itself. Like with the front output shaft going to the front differential and the other output going to the rear diff, and the front of the front diff where the ICE engine used to live could just get blocked off with a plate and the batteries could live there. No idea if the size of the Mach E motor relative to the Subaru trans.
May 4 2022 12:24PM
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Icant_kfed
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Fuck electric, get a 6.0 and roll coal on the ski racers
May 4 2022 12:40PM
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r00kie
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No.QuarterI do think these electric motor conversions are going to take off in the car modding world, or even just for daily driven vehicles. It wouldn't be all that complex (relatively) mechanically to attach an electric motor to most transmissions, but having a transmission connected to an electric motor is a bit silly.
What would be really cool is if this electric motor could be installed in place of the Subaru transmission itself. Like with the front output shaft going to the front differential and the other output going to the rear diff, and the front of the front diff where the ICE engine used to live could just get blocked off with a plate and the batteries could live there. No idea if the size of the Mach E motor relative to the Subaru trans.

Yeah I'm not if it'd doable with the Subaru AWD system or not. I do know that ev conversions are a thing but are an obscure part of car culture at the moment. @MichiganCatFart can weigh in on that more.
May 4 2022 2:10PM
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No.Quarter
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r00kieYeah I'm not if it'd doable with the Subaru AWD system or not. I do know that ev conversions are a thing but are an obscure part of car culture at the moment. @MichiganCatFart can weigh in on that more.

The more I think about it it would probably just be simpler to use a more normal differential in the front rather than the Subaru transmission. Like the motor would be mounted directly to the front differential immidiately behind it on the front output shaft and then just a normal driveshaft going from the rear output to the rear diff. The dual motor stuff is really cool but I am more interested in stuff that allows for a simpler conversion. Like if all you had to buy was the motor (and supporting controllers and batteries) and an additional diff, a new driveshaft and CV axles, and some supporting parts to mount to the existing subframe that would be so cool, especially for stuff like Subaru that is already has a reputation for parts that are cross compatible on multiple vehicles

I've got so many ideas kicking around in my head for an EV conversion, or really any sort of weird vehicular silliness. I'd love to do it someday and actually put my mech engineering skills to use but I currently don't have the tools, time, funds, or career prospects to get me there.
May 4 2022 3:29PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Icant_kfedFuck electric, get a 6.0 and roll coal on the ski racers


6.0s are the biggest piece of shit diesel motors ever made. If I’ve gotta drop 5k to make an engine durable there’s something wrong.
May 4 2022 4:23PM
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r00kie
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No.QuarterThe more I think about it it would probably just be simpler to use a more normal differential in the front rather than the Subaru transmission. Like the motor would be mounted directly to the front differential immidiately behind it on the front output shaft and then just a normal driveshaft going from the rear output to the rear diff. The dual motor stuff is really cool but I am more interested in stuff that allows for a simpler conversion. Like if all you had to buy was the motor (and supporting controllers and batteries) and an additional diff, a new driveshaft and CV axles, and some supporting parts to mount to the existing subframe that would be so cool, especially for stuff like Subaru that is already has a reputation for parts that are cross compatible on multiple vehicles

I've got so many ideas kicking around in my head for an EV conversion, or really any sort of weird vehicular silliness. I'd love to do it someday and actually put my mech engineering skills to use but I currently don't have the tools, time, funds, or career prospects to get me there.


Didn't Jeep put an electric motor in a Wrangler as a concept using the exisiting 4x4 driveline? Feel like I saw that a year or two ago.
May 4 2022 4:23PM
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iH8pow
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Electric rear axle on a Civic type R would be pretty f’ng ideal
May 4 2022 4:36PM
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SuspiciousFish
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r00kieI need an engineer somewhere to design a bolt on kit that puts these and a battery pack into early 2000s subarus.


I can see it now.

"Well, it looks like your head gasket is..."

"Yeah fuck it put the electric motor in."
May 4 2022 6:17PM
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Icant_kfed
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CatdickBojangles6.0s are the biggest piece of shit diesel motors ever made. If I’ve gotta drop 5k to make an engine durable there’s something wrong.


They suck but can easily roll coal best, 6.4 are just as bad if not worse
May 4 2022 6:24PM
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r00kie
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SuspiciousFishI can see it now.

"Well, it looks like your head gasket is..."

"Yeah fuck it put the electric motor in."


That would be so appealing. I like simple cars. I like buttons and dials over touch screens, I like manual trans, I like crank windows. All things that if they break are simpler fixes. Being able to put an electric motor that has a fraction of the moving parts into a tried a true chassis and driveline with few tech gadgets inside is a dream car.
May 4 2022 6:55PM
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Nuno812
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Icant_kfedThey suck but can easily roll coal best, 6.4 are just as bad if not worse


Y’all just put it aside and agree on a good ol 7.3
May 4 2022 7:14PM
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Jems
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Icant_kfedFuck electric, get a 6.0 and roll coal on the ski racers

most cringe thing you’ve said
May 4 2022 7:18PM
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Jems
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CatdickBojangles6.0s are the biggest piece of shit diesel motors ever made. If I’ve gotta drop 5k to make an engine durable there’s something wrong.

*any ford diesel engine after the 7.3
May 4 2022 7:19PM
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MichiganCatFart
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Jems*any ford diesel engine after the 7.3


6.7's are surprisingly sturdy
May 4 2022 7:25PM
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Jems
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MichiganCatFart6.7's are surprisingly sturdy

i wouldn’t ever bother with a modern diesel engine unless it’s deleted
May 4 2022 7:28PM
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SuspiciousFish
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r00kieThat would be so appealing. I like simple cars. I like buttons and dials over touch screens, I like manual trans, I like crank windows. All things that if they break are simpler fixes. Being able to put an electric motor that has a fraction of the moving parts into a tried a true chassis and driveline with few tech gadgets inside is a dream car.


I agree. I have a manual 2006 Impreza 2.5i and I would be 100% down to throw in an electric motor. I have a few hobby grade brushless RC cars and once you get used to driving those you get an appreciation for modern electric powerplants.
May 4 2022 7:42PM
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CoolChillGuy420
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Important to note also that Ford with their electric car plans is also breathing some new life and energy back into the city of Detroit, so that's also a big part of it too. Bringing in lots more jobs and opportunities for people in the city as well as turning the city around. Its heading in a good direction.
May 4 2022 8:03PM
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Turd__Authority
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r00kieThat would be so appealing. I like simple cars. I like buttons and dials over touch screens, I like manual trans, I like crank windows. All things that if they break are simpler fixes. Being able to put an electric motor that has a fraction of the moving parts into a tried a true chassis and driveline with few tech gadgets inside is a dream car.


Ford did this with an old classic truck to show off their engine.
May 5 2022 8:14AM
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Rusticles
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The problem with converting ICE vehicles to electric is where to stuff the batteries. Old longbox trucks might be the easiest, stuff the batteries in the box.......

I really want to convert a wakeboard boat one day..... Silent surfing..... for about 10mins lol
May 6 2022 2:57PM
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Casey
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RusticlesThe problem with converting ICE vehicles to electric is where to stuff the batteries. Old longbox trucks might be the easiest, stuff the batteries in the box.......

I really want to convert a wakeboard boat one day..... Silent surfing..... for about 10mins lol


That would be nuts
May 8 2022 11:45AM
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CatdickBojangles
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RusticlesThe problem with converting ICE vehicles to electric is where to stuff the batteries. Old longbox trucks might be the easiest, stuff the batteries in the box.......

I really want to convert a wakeboard boat one day..... Silent surfing..... for about 10mins lol


GE has been working on electric boats for a minute now.
May 8 2022 3:10PM
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armchair_skier
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Icant_kfedFuck electric, get a 6.0 and roll coal on the ski racers

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1042241/-----6-0-sounden-like---a-wet-fart
6 blow
May 8 2022 5:09PM
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yungona
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I don’t care about electric vehicles. I just wanted to let you know you’re a cocksucker @Turd__Authority Hahahah
May 9 2022 10:21AM
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VTshredder69
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There arn't enough minerals on earth to create the batteries for everyone to have an electric car.
May 9 2022 1:50PM
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Rusticles
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CaseyThat would be nuts


CatdickBojanglesGE has been working on electric boats for a minute now.


Epic boats made one for a while. Not too sure on the battery size for that one.

Nautique came out with an electric tho, think the price is like $350K LOL


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1042335/ELECTRIC-Boat---Wakeboarding-in-the-Future-Behind-the-Battery-Powered-Nautique-
May 9 2022 4:48PM
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Casey
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RusticlesEpic boats made one for a while. Not too sure on the battery size for that one.

Nautique came out with an electric tho, think the price is like $350K LOL


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1042335/ELECTRIC-Boat---Wakeboarding-in-the-Future-Behind-the-Battery-Powered-Nautique-

Honestly looks pretty awesome, I think probably not worth the upcharge, and really only going to work for people that have access to full shore power.
May 9 2022 5:08PM
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Rusticles
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yeah, and in order to charge that in a decent time you would need three phase power to the water, if not it would take at least a day on a wall charger. I think it said 150KWh battery.
May 9 2022 5:22PM
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kingsskier
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Any modern car will likely have an electric version soon enough. I cant decide if it will be cool or ruin it if someone did nice restorations with emotors to classic cars.

Im a Ford electric powertrain engineer, so I have been working with similar motors to this for years.
May 10 2022 3:37PM
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BrandoComando
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r00kieDidn't Jeep put an electric motor in a Wrangler as a concept using the exisiting 4x4 driveline? Feel like I saw that a year or two ago.







Yee the Jeep Magneto concept. The electric motors connect directly to a traditional transfer case, which sends power to the traditional front and rear driveshafts. This preserves the Wrangler's solid front and rear axles and allows for mechanical locking differentials. It's an interesting implementation of the electric drivetrain.
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