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Broken Shifts, What Next?

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Bmillerz
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After spending a few days dialling in the DIN and forward pressure on my brand new pair of Shifts, I was finally confident I could shred the hill without fear of pre-release. Cut to 2 weeks later and I've snapped the toe piece. The binding doesn't hold my boot so now i'm left without a powder/touring setup.

I've got a warranty claim in with the shop I bought them from but this can take 4 - 8 weeks! I cant go that long without skiing!

So i'm in the market for another binding. Im cautious about buying another Shift incase I break it again. Ive heard the CAST system is pretty bombproof, what are everyones thoughts? I don't want to be skiing somewhere gnarly and get dragged off a cliff because my new Shifts fail on me!

Im 5'10 and 180 pounds. Ski 70% resort, 30% Backcountry. Like to ski hard, drop reasonably sized cliffs, and throw in a few backflips for good measure.

Any advice is appreciated 🤙🏻

**This thread was edited on Feb 24th 2022 at 4:25:46pm
Feb 24 2022 4:24PM
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MaimHelp
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If you're at the resort why tf you need touring bindings
Feb 24 2022 4:50PM
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colorado_frenchy
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warrant the shift and then sell them. Meanwhile ger CAST or Duke PT 16, it's a no brainer
Feb 24 2022 4:54PM
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anders_a
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duke pt 16 or CAST
Feb 24 2022 4:59PM
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Burrito
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I used Shifts for the past 2+ seasons and thankfully haven't broken them yet. I put that setup together with what I would assume were similar intentions to yours - wanting one setup to rule them all.

That said, if I was to do it over again I'd first build a nice burly Cast setup for inbounds and particularly deep bc days (where I'm willing to pay the weight penalty) with the hopes of also building lighter weight, dedicated touring setup in the future for mediocre bc days.
Feb 24 2022 5:00PM
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Bmillerz
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MaimHelpIf you're at the resort why tf you need touring bindings


One setup to cover as many bases as possible. I've got a park setup that I use for 70% of the days on the hill. Then this setup with the Shifts I use inbounds if the snow is good and then the rest of the time in the backcountry.
Feb 24 2022 5:46PM
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Bmillerz
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BurritoI used Shifts for the past 2+ seasons and thankfully haven't broken them yet. I put that setup together with what I would assume were similar intentions to yours - wanting one setup to rule them all.

That said, if I was to do it over again I'd first build a nice burly Cast setup for inbounds and particularly deep bc days (where I'm willing to pay the weight penalty) with the hopes of also building lighter weight, dedicated touring setup in the future for mediocre bc days.


Yeah exactly, one setup to rule them all!

I hope your Shifts hold out.

I think I've learnt the hard way I need a more beefy setup, expensive mistake! Hope the warranty comes through and I can sell them.

I think CAST is heavier than the Shift but lighter than the Duke PT so it shouldn't be too bad uphill?
Feb 24 2022 5:50PM
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Burrito
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BmillerzI think CAST is heavier than the Shift but lighter than the Duke PT so it shouldn't be too bad uphill?

In uphill modes the Duke is about 100g heavier than the Cast which is about 100g heavier than the Shift. Certainly not nothing, weight-wise, but you gain a lot of durability for the weight penalty. If you can get your hands on some I would personally go Cast over Duke PT simply for the reliability of the Pivots.

**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2022 at 6:16:14pm
Feb 24 2022 6:13PM
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Bmillerz
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BurritoIn uphill modes the Duke is about 100g heavier than the Cast which is about 100g heavier than the Shift. Certainly not nothing, weight-wise, but you gain a lot of durability for the weight penalty. If you can get your hands on some I would personally go Cast over Duke PT simply for the reliability of the Pivots.

**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2022 at 6:16:14pm


Thanks man, Im going to try get my hands on the CAST system if I can!
Feb 24 2022 8:30PM
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cydwhit
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I'd agree, CAST is probably the move for you. If you care about weights/etc, I put together this roundup which might make comparisons a little easier to visualize: https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/A-Touring-Binding-Primer
Feb 24 2022 8:59PM
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Bmillerz
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cydwhitI'd agree, CAST is probably the move for you. If you care about weights/etc, I put together this roundup which might make comparisons a little easier to visualize: https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/A-Touring-Binding-Primer


Cheers Cy, that article is really helpful. I'm going to bite the bullet and go with CAST!

I love your artwork by the way bro!
Feb 25 2022 7:26AM
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.nasty
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Amer (the parent compant of armada, salomon, and atomic) has actually been super fast with warranty claims lately. I'm sure your shop gave you a large time table as it's a safer bet during these times, but I've been having warranties arrive within a week most times after getting filed. Just trying to brighten the outlook for ya haha
Feb 25 2022 8:44AM
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