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Shinbang ruins my progress and skiing

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IlsPlauns64
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Its holiday season and I‘ve been trying to get some new tricks down. After about 1-2 days of intense skiing I get horrible shinbang. I‘m riding the ft drop kicks and got them custom fitted in a ski rental, I‘ve installed boosterstraps on them and I‘ve tried gel pads and different ski socks while skiing. The pain just won‘t go away and I feel like I‘ve tried almost every single thing possible. I might just try some other boots, but I‘m not really a fan of that Idea since the boots were super expensive. Any other advice?
Feb 12 2022 5:05PM
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bananaman123431
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IlsPlauns64Its holiday season and I‘ve been trying to get some new tricks down. After about 1-2 days of intense skiing I get horrible shinbang. I‘m riding the ft drop kicks and got them custom fitted in a ski rental, I‘ve installed boosterstraps on them and I‘ve tried gel pads and different ski socks while skiing. The pain just won‘t go away and I feel like I‘ve tried almost every single thing possible. I might just try some other boots, but I‘m not really a fan of that Idea since the boots were super expensive. Any other advice?

have you been going backseat a lot?
Feb 12 2022 7:56PM
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Yukon_Cornelius
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bananaman123431have you been going backseat a lot?


This
Feb 13 2022 2:15AM
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PimpChimpin
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As a so called “swerve skier” I just accept it and live with it
Feb 13 2022 2:57AM
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IlsPlauns64
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bananaman123431have you been going backseat a lot?

I don‘t feel like I ski backseat a lot. Only when I knuckle a jump or mess up a rail real bad.
Feb 13 2022 3:24AM
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skierman
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YOU IDIOT FUCKING CHILDREN! SHIN BANG HAPPENS WHEN YOU SKI AND LAND BACK SEAT, ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING GEAR, ITS BECAUSE YOU'RE SKIING LIKE GARBAGE! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULLS!


You kids are so full of yourselves that you cannot possibly entertain the idea you're skiing like shit. Grow the fuck up.
Feb 13 2022 6:57AM
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freestyler540
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IlsPlauns64I don‘t feel like I ski backseat a lot. Only when I knuckle a jump or mess up a rail real bad.

No one feels like they are skiing backseat, but they all do. Pain in the shin bone confirms it. Riding with bang makes it ao much worse.
Your shins have to be applying pressure on the tongue of the boot at all times. No pressure on the shin, your backseat
Feb 13 2022 7:37AM
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skierman_jack
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Usually as you progress you get better technique and in turn you get less shin bang as you learn how to use your body to ski.

if it persists, make sure your boots are snug and buckled down well. Really well.

I also like to compliment my skis and boots. I was on icelantics for a while and so I had softer boots to compliment the softer ski. Now I’m on some stiffer ON3Ps and I have stiffer boots so the ski and boot flex linearly. It sounds silly but it makes a huge difference
Feb 13 2022 8:30AM
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lil.Boye
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sadly the only way to fix shinbang is to take a break and let it heal. could modify your boots to be a little higher to take the pressure off the troubled area, but it won't be an instant fix
Feb 13 2022 8:48AM
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armchair_skier
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Skiing w shinbang makes you land your tricks better
Feb 13 2022 9:20AM
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1M_peaches
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wack your shin with a rolling pin next time you have a week off of skiing, also do that in the off season
Feb 13 2022 9:23AM
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KilaTsunami
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Your local bootfitter would like to talk to you.
Feb 14 2022 9:10AM
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CowboySkibop
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Im not saying buy new boots. but visit ur boot fitter and try to get your current boots molded or somethin. I just upgraded my boots from the Dalbello Il Moro MX90s cuz they were giving me perpetual shinbang, like the entire time I have the boots on and not just when I would land a trick. ive had pain in them forever but I had the worst fuckin day of radiating pain into my shins on a long day of ski lessons on Saturday. I went straight from the hill to my shop and bought Salomon Shift pro 100's based on what my homie who's a boot fitter reccomended, next day I had another long day of lessons and my shins felt so good, albeit a little sore cuz they are still healing, but it really wasn't like painful until the end of the day.

also having light boots feels so good, ive forever had heavy boots that are tending to be on the cheaper side of things but it felt good to splurge and get some nice shit


also take a lil time off and let it heal

**This post was edited on Feb 14th 2022 at 11:18:55am
Feb 14 2022 11:15AM
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ajbski
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freestyler540Your shins have to be applying pressure on the tongue of the boot at all times.

dont agree with that.

initiating the turn you have to push your noses down the hill, youll feel shin pressure there.
mid turn you should be centred in the boot.
ending the turn you have to lift your noses up/across the hill, youll be back seat there.
you should be modulating your fore and aft balance basically all the time.

i think shin bang doesnt necessarily come from riding backseat (but it can if youre getting really deep into turns on variable snow), but more taking impacts back seat. like going deep into a landing or off a high rail entirely on your tails.

i havent heard of people using booster straps on FTs, not sure how they would help with shinbang. i put mine under the cuff to take out some of the volume.
Feb 14 2022 11:27AM
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eheath
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ajbskidont agree with that.

initiating the turn you have to push your noses down the hill, youll feel shin pressure there.
mid turn you should be centred in the boot.
ending the turn you have to lift your noses up/across the hill, youll be back seat there.
you should be modulating your fore and aft balance basically all the time.

i think shin bang doesnt necessarily come from riding backseat (but it can if youre getting really deep into turns on variable snow), but more taking impacts back seat. like going deep into a landing or off a high rail entirely on your tails.

i havent heard of people using booster straps on FTs, not sure how they would help with shinbang. i put mine under the cuff to take out some of the volume.


But your shins should always been pushed againsts your boots, of course you're balanced in certain places when turning, but this kid isn't getting shin bang from carving, you're right that hes landing backseat and that is causing the shinbang.

booster straps and other concepts to eliminate shin bang are just bandaids/pacebos, the only solution is to stop landing backseat.
Feb 14 2022 11:45AM
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ajbski
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eheathBut your shins should always been pushed againsts your boots

yea, that comes from keeping your knees bent and being in an athletics stance. but i would go as far as instructing to apply pressure.

long stiff skis will also let you land backseat where short soft would just wash out. and make it hurt more when you do. atleast imo
Feb 14 2022 12:05PM
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ajbski
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ajbskibut i would go as far as instructing to apply pressure.


wouldn't***
Feb 14 2022 12:14PM
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eheath
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ajbskiwouldn't***


Putting pressure on your shins is a basic fundamental of skiing dude haha
Feb 14 2022 12:19PM
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freestyler540
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ajbskidont agree with that.

initiating the turn you have to push your noses down the hill, youll feel shin pressure there.
mid turn you should be centred in the boot.
ending the turn you have to lift your noses up/across the hill, youll be back seat there.
you should be modulating your fore and aft balance basically all the time.

i think shin bang doesnt necessarily come from riding backseat (but it can if youre getting really deep into turns on variable snow), but more taking impacts back seat. like going deep into a landing or off a high rail entirely on your tails.

i havent heard of people using booster straps on FTs, not sure how they would help with shinbang. i put mine under the cuff to take out some of the volume.

If you are skiing backseat, you are landing backseat. Its that simple.
As an experiement, spend a day doing nose butters everywhere. Try to set a record of how many nose butters you can fit. At the end of the day, rate the pain on a scale.
Next day (or 2), do the same, but tail butters. I mean really lean back and butter a Harlaut 180 on the tails.
Then compare the shin pain after each day
Feb 14 2022 12:29PM
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ajbski
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I think we are saying the same thing....

one of the most basic training drill we would do with kids when I was coach is skiing with the top buckles undone. Solely to stop them from “applying shin pressure”.
you stop relying on your ankles for fore and aft balance and it’s done more with your knees and hips. Good training for finding the centre of the ski too.

contact yes, but it’s really hard to make the back of your ski to do any work if you’re focusing on applying shin pressure.

it’s out of the scope of the thread tho.

yes as a rule of thumb, if you’re taking off back seat, you’re landing backseat
Feb 14 2022 12:41PM
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skierman
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ajbskiI think we are saying the same thing....

one of the most basic training drill we would do with kids when I was coach is skiing with the top buckles undone. Solely to stop them from “applying shin pressure”.
you stop relying on your ankles for fore and aft balance and it’s done more with your knees and hips. Good training for finding the centre of the ski too.

contact yes, but it’s really hard to make the back of your ski to do any work if you’re focusing on applying shin pressure.

it’s out of the scope of the thread tho.

yes as a rule of thumb, if you’re taking off back seat, you’re landing backseat


Or you can have them try spinning 270 onto a rail to prove the same concept. Take off flat footed, land flat footed. If you don't, you're taking a metal bar up your ass.
Feb 14 2022 12:54PM
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MaimHelp
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skierman_jackUsually as you progress you get better technique and in turn you get less shin bang as you learn how to use your body to ski.

if it persists, make sure your boots are snug and buckled down well. Really well.

I also like to compliment my skis and boots. I was on icelantics for a while and so I had softer boots to compliment the softer ski. Now I’m on some stiffer ON3Ps and I have stiffer boots so the ski and boot flex linearly. It sounds silly but it makes a huge difference


Me with stiff ass boots and danollies lol
Feb 14 2022 1:02PM
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