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Pivot base plate crack

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abar.
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Noticed this at the start of the season and have skied it a fair bit, almost certainly was like this at the end of last season too. 2nd time I've had this happen, first time didn't notice it until a shop refused to remount. Because of this I didn't stress it, also homie told me it was common and nbd.

But a few days ago I had a prerelease on this ski, and I haven't prereleased in a really long time, so was wondering if this had something to do with it, maybe messing up the forward pressure. It was not a low impact prerelease, basically running into an uphill bump full speed right after landing on the back of the previous bump, but still I wouldn't have crashed otherwise. It doesn't feel any different to step into, but it does pivot more loosely that the other one.

Basically I'm wondering if this is a big deal and worth replacing/fixing somehow. I have an extra heel where the baseplate isn't cracked, but it has no brakes. Would that one be better?
Dec 22 2021 7:48PM
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rolfrobin
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Switch the breaks over. Ez clap
Dec 22 2021 8:32PM
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abar.
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rolfrobinSwitch the breaks over. Ez clap


Unless there's a way to do it I don't know, the crack is on the piece that the brakes are fully attached to
Dec 22 2021 8:35PM
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rolfrobin
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abar.Unless there's a way to do it I don't know, the crack is on the piece that the brakes are fully attached to

Should be able to switch breaks easily. U gotta un-mount and then switch breaks and then mount again.

**This post was edited on Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:42:05pm
Dec 22 2021 8:41PM
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abar.
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rolfrobinShould be able to switch breaks easily. U gotta un-mount and then switch breaks and then mount again.

**This post was edited on Dec 22nd 2021 at 8:42:05pm


I'm p sure you can't replace the brakes and not the base plate (or vice versa), you can only take off the dido and switch out the whole base+brake assembly as one piece. If I'm wrong lmk how it would be done
Dec 22 2021 8:59PM
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TheWeaz
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Thats full on broken. Not safe to ski. Either get new bindings or get new base plates, the base plates run like $100.

that part is swappable if you had a donor heel piece but its not easy and most shops won’t do it for you.
Dec 22 2021 11:08PM
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abar.
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TheWeazThats full on broken. Not safe to ski. Either get new bindings or get new base plates, the base plates run like $100.

that part is swappable if you had a donor heel piece but its not easy and most shops won’t do it for you.


I do have a donor heel, what type of tools would I need to make the switch happen?
Dec 23 2021 12:11AM
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rolfrobin
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abar.I do have a donor heel, what type of tools would I need to make the switch happen?

Prob just a Philips. But i am pretty sure you can replace the breaks. Here is a guide that might help https://www.instructables.com/Rossignol-FKS-Look-Pivot-Binding-Repair/
Dec 23 2021 7:00AM
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anders_a
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remember look had a recall with this happening, check if your affected (I had a pair)
Dec 23 2021 7:10AM
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TheWeaz
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abar.I do have a donor heel, what type of tools would I need to make the switch happen?


I’ve found it easiest with 2 flat heads and a philips. Taking the apart is the easy part, putting everything back together is hard and sometimes requires help from a second person to hold everything.

heres a good video

https://vimeo.com/4218404/recommended
Dec 23 2021 10:08AM
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RAcecARman
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TheWeazThats full on broken. Not safe to ski. Either get new bindings or get new base plates, the base plates run like $100.

that part is swappable if you had a donor heel piece but its not easy and most shops won’t do it for you.

If a shop told me that they lose all credibility. Shit is stupid easy to do, all you need to know before hand is how to use a screw driver.
Dec 23 2021 10:17AM
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rolfrobin
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RAcecARmanIf a shop told me that they lose all credibility. Shit is stupid easy to do, all you need to know before hand is how to use a screw driver.


Yes this
Dec 23 2021 8:22PM
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shin-bang
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Yea, swapping the baseplates and brakes are a lot easier than people make it out to be. Done it a couple time to swap brakes and it was easy peasy
Dec 24 2021 12:55AM
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HypeBeast
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abar.


Noticed this at the start of the season and have skied it a fair bit, almost certainly was like this at the end of last season too. 2nd time I've had this happen, first time didn't notice it until a shop refused to remount. Because of this I didn't stress it, also homie told me it was common and nbd.

But a few days ago I had a prerelease on this ski, and I haven't prereleased in a really long time, so was wondering if this had something to do with it, maybe messing up the forward pressure. It was not a low impact prerelease, basically running into an uphill bump full speed right after landing on the back of the previous bump, but still I wouldn't have crashed otherwise. It doesn't feel any different to step into, but it does pivot more loosely that the other one.

Basically I'm wondering if this is a big deal and worth replacing/fixing somehow. I have an extra heel where the baseplate isn't cracked, but it has no brakes. Would that one be better?

Tf are yall smoking? The broken part is what's attached to the arm that holds the boot in. How can this be safe at all to use?!



Edit: I read the responses wrong. Op no not safe to ski in current state but can replace that part.

**This post was edited on Dec 24th 2021 at 1:16:49am
Dec 24 2021 1:14AM
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Paul.
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RAcecARmanIf a shop told me that they lose all credibility. Shit is stupid easy to do, all you need to know before hand is how to use a screw driver.


Swapping brake assemblies is easy. Taking a brake assembly apart and swapping out the broken ring, as TheWeaz is suggesting, is not easy. I would be very impressed if a shop were willing to pull brakes apart and make frankenstein ones for customers.

@OP I have extras of that part I could send you if you decide to pull them apart
Dec 24 2021 2:48AM
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TreyMiddleton
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I had this happen last year on some fks 140s. Replace those asap. I ended up just buying new bindings on sale at the end of the season to replace them.

**This post was edited on Dec 27th 2021 at 1:55:04am
Dec 27 2021 1:53AM
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