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Honestly I care a lot more about my skis working well than looking good, those on3ps have a rec mounting point of -7cm so center mounting them would make them ski like shit. But if that's the type of stuff you do to look cool I admire your dedication!
yeah i mounted my jeffreys (for the powder) center to look cool and it didn’t work out too well. But who the fuck willingly mounts some on3p magnuses -2 cm??? Park skis look so damn lame if they’re any more than like a cm.
It just depends so much on the individual ski and the preferences and intended uses of the skier. I’ve mounted more directional skis at true center and guess what? They skied switch like a fucking dream. Were they kind of squirrelly on flat bases and carved like shit? Absolutely yes. Did they tip dive in POW to an obnoxious level? Yes. Did I buy park skis because I wanted to set PRs on the GS course or blast waist deep BC faces? No.
The point is, everything you do to help one aspect of performance is going to necessarily hurt another. It takes all kinds to make the world go around just chill out.
Jemsyeah i mounted my jeffreys (for the powder) center to look cool and it didn’t work out too well. But who the fuck willingly mounts some on3p magnuses -2 cm??? Park skis look so damn lame if they’re any more than like a cm.
I do! -2 is rec for m102s and they ski great both in the park and everywhere else
The best place to mount any skis is so the boot is centered over the narrowest part of the ski.
Whatever that is, that's the best place.
Then if you have a fancy race binding, or a quality demo type, you can adjust a bit either way for the conditions.
JulienFedouto be fair, Vishnu's come with a piece of paper that says "remind your local shop to measure for true center when mounting"
While they do recommend true center, that just means to know where true center is for an accurate mount. The center line on topsheets is often inaccurate.
Mounting a ski -1-2cms from true isn’t going to produce a noticeable change in swing weight.
hi_vis360yeah sure if that's what you like, for me the main appeal of a getting a sym ski is the swing weight so I'm still going true center. Also don't just mount any non sym ski at 1.5 some skis are more directional than others
I’m going to tonight, I don’t like skiing upright, so I think I’ll be able to drive the just a touch harder / slightest bit better in pow. ( since I don’t have a pow ski )
**This post was edited on Dec 8th 2021 at 6:51:35pm
Jemsyeah i mounted my jeffreys (for the powder) center to look cool and it didn’t work out too well. But who the fuck willingly mounts some on3p magnuses -2 cm??? Park skis look so damn lame if they’re any more than like a cm.
The Mags are marketed as a park ski and -2 is the recommended. I believe there was a podcast with on3p guy recommending there for even park. I bet since magnus rides them there since it’s his signature ski
hi_vis360I don't think it will produce a noticeable change in carving ability either, it's only 1 cm, and telling the shop dead center is easy
Depending on geometry and side cut of the ski, the effect on edge contact, turn initiation, etc. will be affected a lot more than swing weight. It’s not a 1 to 1 impact.
The weight distribution in front and behind the boot sole center will change by like 0.5%, something like milligrams or whatever. The effect on ski performance will be much greater given each cm you move it. Think about it, you could move the mount 10cm and the weight behind the binding vs in front with be like a 5-7% difference and we are talking grams here. The same 10cm change would make the ski operate totally different.
I get liking to ride true center, I’ve mounted every symmetrical ski I’ve owned there, so I’m not hating. Just making the point that the shift in swing weight will not compare to the change in ski feel.
I doubt you’ll even be able to tell the difference honestly
Skiblade420I’m going to tonight, I don’t like skiing upright, so I think I’ll be able to drive the just a touch harder / slightest bit better in pow. ( since I don’t have a pow ski )
**This post was edited on Dec 8th 2021 at 6:51:35pm
Skiblade420I’m going to tonight, I don’t like skiing upright, so I think I’ll be able to drive the just a touch harder / slightest bit better in pow. ( since I don’t have a pow ski )
**This post was edited on Dec 8th 2021 at 6:51:35pm
Damn I’m kinda thinking about it too but low key feel like it’s sacrilege
I swap skis with my friends who have wets true center and they don’t even know it’s -1 back and haven’t said anything. You seriously can’t tell the difference…
AaronO.Damn I’m kinda thinking about it too but low key feel like it’s sacrilege
DesertStixI swap skis with my friends who have wets true center and they don’t even know it’s -1 back and haven’t said anything. You seriously can’t tell the difference…
I add +10mm and she said she could not feel any difference at all. ;-)
casualDepending on geometry and side cut of the ski, the effect on edge contact, turn initiation, etc. will be affected a lot more than swing weight. It’s not a 1 to 1 impact.
The weight distribution in front and behind the boot sole center will change by like 0.5%, something like milligrams or whatever. The effect on ski performance will be much greater given each cm you move it. Think about it, you could move the mount 10cm and the weight behind the binding vs in front with be like a 5-7% difference and we are talking grams here. The same 10cm change would make the ski operate totally different.
I get liking to ride true center, I’ve mounted every symmetrical ski I’ve owned there, so I’m not hating. Just making the point that the shift in swing weight will not compare to the change in ski feel.
still doesn't change the fact that if I'm buying a symmetrical ski, I'm buying it for the swing weight. To me that's the the main purpose and appeal of sym skis - to have the lowest swing weight possible. So I'm going to try to optimize that as much as I can.
