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Tuscon cop unloads 9 rounds into cripple in electric wheelchair

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frostedTip
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yall see the video of the cop shooting a cripple in a wheelchair 9 times in the back? can't make this shit up. Dude dumps 8 then waits a moment and shoots one more for good measure. cop even handcuffs him after he slumps onto the ground. He could've just tipped the wheelchair over or something? but no cop straight executes him like he caught his opp lacking. Demons among us man.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1020534/Bodycam-Footage-Of-Arizona-Officer-Shooting-Wheelchair-Shoplifting-Suspect
Dec 2 2021 1:39AM
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theabortionator
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DesertStixOr the dude on amphetamines who eats the barbs like damn breakfast, turns towards the officer, and flexes completely unbothered.

I don’t think tasers are the solution everyone claims them to be. We honestly need to work at having community intervention with people who aren’t militarized cops playing call of duty. Imagine if the dude was stopped and talked to by a social worker or someone trained in crisis management and not a trigger happy Neanderthal?

Some cities are doing this these days. If you see somebody mentally ill you can call them if needed. Or your friend takes a bunch of acid and freaks out. Cool to have people show up that understand those situations and are trained for it to some degree.


Sometimes you need help but calling the cops csn be risky for some things.
Dec 4 2021 11:32PM
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DesertStix
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I’ve heard of some places going in this direction. It needs to be the norm nationwide
theabortionatorSome cities are doing this these days. If you see somebody mentally ill you can call them if needed. Or your friend takes a bunch of acid and freaks out. Cool to have people show up that understand those situations and are trained for it to some degree.


Sometimes you need help but calling the cops csn be risky for some things.
Dec 4 2021 11:37PM
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Casey
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DesertStixOr the dude on amphetamines who eats the barbs like damn breakfast, turns towards the officer, and flexes completely unbothered.

I don’t think tasers are the solution everyone claims them to be. We honestly need to work at having community intervention with people who aren’t militarized cops playing call of duty. Imagine if the dude was stopped and talked to by a social worker or someone trained in crisis management and not a trigger happy Neanderthal?


Obviously I support the sentiment, but the thing that always gets me about this is like- how is it that police officers, whose primary job is discern good guys from bad guys, aren’t better at assessing a scene and being like oh this guy is crazy let’s call an ambulance. It’s like when my HR department decided to redact the names off of all the resumes for a given hiring process in the name of equity. Like oh because you can’t trust your hiring managers not to be racist? Seems like you identified a deeper problem that you are trying to band aid.
Dec 5 2021 4:47PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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How is there even a debate in this thread?
Dec 5 2021 5:30PM
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skierman
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Charlie_KellyHow is there even a debate in this thread?


Because Republicans have backed themselves into a corner, like Biden saying "believe all women" and then a woman came out accusing him of tickling her vagina.
Dec 5 2021 6:06PM
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DesertStix
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We totally agree and you know their job is not “discerning between good and bad guys” it’s to enforce the law. And in this dynamic we find ourselves in trouble…
CaseyObviously I support the sentiment, but the thing that always gets me about this is like- how is it that police officers, whose primary job is discern good guys from bad guys, aren’t better at assessing a scene and being like oh this guy is crazy let’s call an ambulance. It’s like when my HR department decided to redact the names off of all the resumes for a given hiring process in the name of equity. Like oh because you can’t trust your hiring managers not to be racist? Seems like you identified a deeper problem that you are trying to band aid.
Dec 5 2021 6:09PM
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Casey
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DesertStixWe totally agree and you know their job is not “discerning between good and bad guys” it’s to enforce the law. And in this dynamic we find ourselves in trouble…


Eh I didn’t explain myself that well. What I meant was like, police interact with the public all day every day- like anyone you talk to in retail, customer service etc, these people develop a sharpened sense of who they are dealing with over thousands of individual interactions. For whatever reason you still see officers involved in situations all the time that can only be described as Tone Deaf AF- and the police have a responsibility in my mind to get that wrong almost never.
Dec 5 2021 7:01PM
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DesertStix
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Not sure about you but the cops around me 100% sit in their cars more than they interact with people. We don’t have “community policing” at all. I think that’s a huge part of the problem. They’re so detached from the people they should be serving. My local cops don’t even live in the same city as they work for the most part due to the cost of living. And that’s not a flex, my fiancé and I are pretty much being priced out right now. And I should mention I live maybe 90 minutes from where this took place so my local cops and these idiots have a lot in common.
CaseyEh I didn’t explain myself that well. What I meant was like, police interact with the public all day every day- like anyone you talk to in retail, customer service etc, these people develop a sharpened sense of who they are dealing with over thousands of individual interactions. For whatever reason you still see officers involved in situations all the time that can only be described as Tone Deaf AF- and the police have a responsibility in my mind to get that wrong almost never.
Dec 5 2021 7:34PM
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r00kie
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DesertStixNot sure about you but the cops around me 100% sit in their cars more than they interact with people. We don’t have “community policing” at all. I think that’s a huge part of the problem. They’re so detached from the people they should be serving. My local cops don’t even live in the same city as they work for the most part due to the cost of living. And that’s not a flex, my fiancé and I are pretty much being priced out right now. And I should mention I live maybe 90 minutes from where this took place so my local cops and these idiots have a lot in common.


100% with ya on the cars thing. Get outside and meet somebody. I get wanting to live outside of the area though. Police work can get messy and I'd be inclined to keep my family away from it all if I were in any sort of law enforcement position.
Dec 5 2021 7:41PM
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DesertStix
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I mean, I think there are a lot of inherent problems if the police don’t live in the municipality or jurisdiction they have control over. I’m definitely not saying a cop should be required to live in the same city he works, that’s crazy and would limit the talent pool, but when you have 90% of the police force coming from half an hour away in the fringe suburbs, it’s hard to identify with them and feel like they have your personal interest and safety set as number 1 priority. It’s difficult to engage in community policing if you aren’t an actual member of the community.
r00kie100% with ya on the cars thing. Get outside and meet somebody. I get wanting to live outside of the area though. Police work can get messy and I'd be inclined to keep my family away from it all if I were in any sort of law enforcement position.
Dec 5 2021 8:32PM
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