theabortionatorIdk it's pretty frustrating. As i mentioned earlier I gave a friend in Indiana a bunch of condoms while I was visiting because she didnt have any and went to hook up and they didn't becaude neither had one. I asked about planned parenthood and she told me the one in town got shut down by pressure from protesters even though they didn't perform abortions.
The same people very likely hate the idea of universal health care because the news tells them it's bad. People who haven't left their state talking about how people in other countries hate having health care.
Idk, everything gets weirdly political in this country. I get it, it's a baby from conception or whatever but it doesn't seem like people care about the mother or baby beyind saying it generally.
I went to church multiple times a week growing up, went to several different churches when moving, visting family, or on vacation and that's definitely the vibe at a lot of them. If christianity is good for somebody hell yeah, send it. But i hate that so much of these people's time gets sucked up trying to judge, hate, and legislate what other people they don't even know are doing.
Sure there are a ton of people, a ton of christians, and not all are like that, but i really don't see many working to change that. Christianity has a bad stigma and I think it's fully deserved. If the "good christians who aren't like that" spent as much time fixing their churches and being a legit beacon for other people I don't feel it would be like that.
When christian groups are wrong they never own up to it. I mean for real, there was a huge campaign to stop Harry Potter because it was satanic and going to ruin children. Only thing it did was get kids that had never finished a book to stand in line for 2 hours for the next release.
People that hate gay people and marriage is sacred or whatever(only if relating to gays) and then some of the worst politicians on the issue get caught blowing dudes in bathrooms or sleeping with their male staff.
I get that it's a baby or whatever and thats why it matter but their so much hypocrisy in many of the christians that want to ban everything that I can't even roll into a discussion.
Like I said there are plenty of good people who are christians but there are far too many who aren't, who hate themselves and send money to all kinds of messed up causes to try and legislate bs morality in people they don't even know.
This was way more blunt than I planned to be. I'm not mad, I'm just over the whole thing. The people in the church that are real and actually love people aren't the one's in front of planned parenthood and pushing weird legislation. We're all different I don't expect or need to agree with everyone on everything but the massive hypocrisy grind my gears a bit. Especially from people who would like to take away mine and other people's rights. That's my $.02
*Also my name has less to do with a hard stance on abortion but a random thing that stuck while talking to my friends when I was like 18.
Fix the church and all the bullshit in it before going after everyone else. Also unrelated but it's kind of weird the intense indoctrination in sunday school etc. Almost like if you don't pump it into people when theyre 2 years old they won't fall into it. In any other context it would seem weirdly culty and the christians would be freaking out about it. I have friends that became christains, buddhists, etc later in life and thats great. It's kind of messed up when people want to ban anything that they think will polute the children while making them sing weird culty vibe songs every sunday.
I'm sure that all makes me an asshole but I don't care really. Just live a legitimately good life and don't be a dick. I don't think the majority of christians on these crusades are capable of that though. I would say this is all related because this has nothing to do with religion, but it has everything to do with religion. Christianity is allegedly and maybe supposed to be based around loving people, but I don't see much legitimate love in the church.
/mega rant.
Fix which church? There are plenty of Catholics, Christians, etc., who believe the Church's (pick one) have been hijacked, subverted and demoralised by all kinds of ideologues including Occultists, Jesuits, masons, faux Christians and do I dear say, homosexuals. Accordingly, many Catholics believe the Catholic Church as well as the Pope is anything but Catholic, which they say was taken over by anti-Catholic persons after Vatican 2. Now, the later accusation against Homosexuality, though would be considered politically incorrect today, is certainly something many Christians have spoken out against, as a corruption of the church and deviant lifestyle (leaving my opinion out of it) for, I don't know, thousands of years. Say what you want but what is clear is that in that community the sexual abuse frequency is startling. Every homosexual has 4 underage victims of sexual abuse (other studies say 2-3) while the heterosexual community is one victim for every 11 (the frequency is much less for those who are abstinent or live a monastery life; which certain denominations of Christianity preach as do they rightful, humble, lowly living of charity). Of course, only a minority of homosexuals (I'm not blaming all of them for such crimes) are child predators or have sexually abused children but there certainly is a connection between the extraordinary frequency of sexual abuse of boys in the homosexual community, abusing children 10 times over, and the sexual abuse of children in the Church. Statistically, 4% of Catholic priests are known to be sexual predators whereas it is 7% for public school teachers, 5% for Orthodox Jews, 3-4% for Protestants, etc., but you'd never hear those statistics in the media.
Despite a higher offender rate among public school teachers and similar offender rates in other religions, the media’s incessant coverage of the Catholic priest scandal leads to the public misconception. 80% of sex abuse offenders are men, who are not celibate and are often married or in a relationship. Victims are usually close family members.
The stance here, which I have not taken but which must be said is that the Catholic church was always against pedophilia and homosexuality. They barred any gay person from becoming a Catholic (leaving my opinion out of it) and would bar and punish any child predator from ever seeing children or preaching to church goers again. I'm sure they executed repeat offenders throughout their 1800 year existence.
Historically, Caligula, and their largely bi-sexual deviant pedophile cults, did not respect the Church's institutional laws. The church told Caligula to do it anywhere but the church—in confines far from families. Caligula thus despised the church. Today, Caligula is the church. There were rules to be followed but the so-called Church forgot them, even about the right to a home and their anti-usury encyclical stances which the Vatican has but forgotten completely with their alliance with P2 in Italy and their laundering of money.
Now remind me, which religious fanatics said "gay is ok" and all but covers up pedophilia? Because you know...pretty sure it wasn't christainity or real Catholics that said it. I could ask Jimmy "Jeff Epstein" Saville, or maybe "Hollywood" Roy Cohn, who was a pedophile and mentor to Trump. I won't stoop that low though, and I will say I'm not against homosexuality (though not my thing), I am, however, against pedophilia and the community within the homosexuality community that has a very serious sexual abuse problem. If the population per capita was the same for heterosexuals and homosexuals, say 500 million, heterosexuals would have around 45 million victims, while homosexuals would have billions.
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My response on your pro-universal healthcare stance is this:
'Universal health care' is totally fine to stand by, if it wasn't a drive for social impact markets for billionaires. ******Such systems in the US can not exist or proceed until long-standing systems of domination and profound power imbalances are addressed. I don't get why people can't see that but whatever.*****
Biden's edicts will force hospitals to bring robot-stick healthcare to scale due to labor shortages. Hence, Impact Investors / Health Innovation. And although Obamacare was not universal, Zeke Emanuel, its architect (brother or Ari Emanuel, a former Irgun terrorist and the notorious Rahm Emanuel, now ambassador to Japan) it was actually about setting up a bio-surveillance panopticon to profit financiers and tech / defense sectors. Social determinants of healthcare?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-149sUWQAo0tBO?format=png&name=large
Keep in mind Zeke was appointed by Biden, whose book promotes eugenics and quietly calls disabled and persons over 75 as worthless human beings.
As for you statement about everything getting weirdly political. I think the television and perception management on the Internet has a lot to do with it. The sensationalised headlines spread by neoliberals, neocons; dems and republican pundits has become ever-increasingly divisive, I think purposefully so.
>>>I get it, it's a baby from conception or whatever but it doesn't seem like people care about the mother or baby beyind saying it generally.
I think people are free to have their opinions on the matter. I've mentioned many Christians preventing people from sacrificing the life of another for convenience sake or even for rape, and then helping the family after the fact for years, which I find noble. I will admit it is a minority but more than I originally thought. The rich republican WASPS (know them by their fruits) don't really care about killing children, whether in conception or in late state, when the majority were proponents of war which killed 500,000 innocent women and children in the middle east. Nor do they say anything about white phosphorous being reigned down on school children in Palestine by Israel rockets burning their skin to the bone, killing them with excruciating pain because Israel is a geopolitical asset and their lobby organisations pay good money.
>>>If christianity is good for somebody hell yeah, send it.
I agree, but it's more a religious institution than anything else... for a follower of Christ to go to spend time with Christ absent the naturalism of the world.
>>>But i hate that so much of these people's time gets sucked up trying to judge, hate, and legislate what other people they don't even know are doing.
This is where Jesus told his followers to go and preach the gospel. So, I believe this is where the divide comes. Christians spanning the globe preaching the gospel can seem hateful, and I'm sure some of it is mistaken. Jesus never, however, said to legislate and push laws unto others with violence, without ever knowing them. That is why I reject such decrees. Christians must do it with love and in good faith, whatever the issue may be.
>>>If the "good christians who aren't like that" spent as much time fixing their churches and being a legit beacon for other people I don't feel it would be like that.
I agree.
>>>When christian groups are wrong they never own up to it.
'When Jewish or Islamic groups are wrong they never own up to it. Atheists are even worse.' I think you and I are generalising here.
>>>People that hate gay people and marriage is sacred or whatever(only if relating to gays) and then some of the worst politicians on the issue get caught blowing dudes in bathrooms or sleeping with their male staff.
Hahah, yup! That Trump supporting republican having gay pedophile sex with an underage boy. Looks tough, promotes himself as a Christian but is no such thing. I'll say this, Christians should be free to preach the gospel and explain why homosexuality is a sin. They may protest that. It is freedom of speech, freedom of religion and their right to protest. I think to deny them this would cause more violence and divisiveness.
>>>...who hate themselves and send money to all kinds of messed up causes to try and legislate bs morality in people they don't even know.
Can you give me some examples? I'm totally with you here.
