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Super fun ski, definitely worth trying out. Send Sander Hadley an IG dm and he would be happy to give you his thoughts as well.
Depending on your skiing style/where you ski, and height, the 192cm and 182 cm will ski a bit different (obviously). 182cm will be a lot more playful/jibby feeling all over the mountain. Tips and tails are soft enough to give good pop and butter off natural features but stout enough to be stable on groomer and rip arcs. 192cm still has a playful feeling but will be much more stable at speed if you are getting into bigger terrain while still allowing you to release the ski to shut down speed/slarve. Its super confidence inspiring without feeling overly heavy.
Dont be scared off by the 192cm length, if you typically ski a mid-high 180cm ski (185+) and are looking for a stable charger that can still be playful, the 192 is probably right for you. It skis a touch shorter and the rocker profile and taper gives you a quick/nimble feeling.
Highly recommend trying them at an early season demo in your area next fall.
m free 108s are awesome skis if you like smooth, playful and loose skis that still do well as a directional ski.
They can rally pretty hard, yet are increadibly forgiving and easy to ski - especially in soft snow. They do not feel as precise as some other similar offerings - like Wildcat108s - and are less ski than say first year ON3P Woodsman108s, but still do a lot of things really well.
I've only been on 182s. They ski kinda short, so do not be afraid of sizing up - especially if you want a higher top end. The front end on 182s is not terribly stiff, so if you like to drive skis through their shovels like there is no tomorrow then they might not be for you. If you drive medium hard or prefer a centered stance, then they are golden.
Their hybrid construction feels really different to most other similar skis I've been on and together with being relatively softer in the tips/tails they could give the impression that they are not wanting to go fast. That is not the case though - hell, the mayor of stomp town Reine Barkered used his pair of 192s, bone stock, at Verbier this year - so they can charge. The 182s are nimble and loose - terrific ski to progress with. It is probably one of the best skis to have been introduced over the last few seasons.
There is a lot of user feedback - read near bottomless stoke - on them over at TGR in the Dynastar thread, from this post and on.
also, if you want something playful that still has a bit of backbone, but has a more centered mount point and that prefer a centered stance (that is, being skied from a more upright position, so not the same as a centred mount) ON3P's Jeffrey or Kartel 108 is a terrific ski as well.
They are a bit sturdier/better built than MF108s imho in spite of being lighter, but are also not very happy when driven hard through the shovels - much less so than MF108s. Kartel108s might be the best corn ski I've ever been on. It is ON3P's most sold model for a reason though - they are a shit ton of fun and lasts for years and years.
kartel108 and jeffrey108 are more or less the same ski, just slight revisions and layup changes to the same model under a new (old) name.
kid-kapowalso, if you want something playful that still has a bit of backbone, but has a more centered mount point and that prefer a centered stance (that is, being skied from a more upright position, so not the same as a centred mount) ON3P's Jeffrey or Kartel 108 is a terrific ski as well.
They are a bit sturdier/better built than MF108s imho in spite of being lighter, but are also not very happy when driven hard through the shovels - much less so than MF108s. Kartel108s might be the best corn ski I've ever been on. It is ON3P's most sold model for a reason though - they are a shit ton of fun and lasts for years and years.
kartel108 and jeffrey108 are more or less the same ski, just slight revisions and layup changes to the same model under a new (old) name.
Goddamn, MORE factory finds?
FWIW ON3P blems skis for the most tiny shit that a regular brand would send out without even blinking an eye. Way back when I picked up a pair of blems that Scott couldn't even find what he blemmed it for.
DaBeersSuper fun ski, definitely worth trying out. Send Sander Hadley an IG dm and he would be happy to give you his thoughts as well.
Depending on your skiing style/where you ski, and height, the 192cm and 182 cm will ski a bit different (obviously). 182cm will be a lot more playful/jibby feeling all over the mountain. Tips and tails are soft enough to give good pop and butter off natural features but stout enough to be stable on groomer and rip arcs. 192cm still has a playful feeling but will be much more stable at speed if you are getting into bigger terrain while still allowing you to release the ski to shut down speed/slarve. Its super confidence inspiring without feeling overly heavy.
Dont be scared off by the 192cm length, if you typically ski a mid-high 180cm ski (185+) and are looking for a stable charger that can still be playful, the 192 is probably right for you. It skis a touch shorter and the rocker profile and taper gives you a quick/nimble feeling.
Highly recommend trying them at an early season demo in your area next fall.
Thanks for the response! Yeah, the playfulness/looseness, combined with the weight/stability is what sounds really interesting to me about this ski. I’m def someone who values maneuverability over charginess in general so I feel like the 182 would prob be enough for me. But it does seem to be one of those skis where the 192 shouldn’t scare you away, from what Ive heard.
kid-kapowm free 108s are awesome skis if you like smooth, playful and loose skis that still do well as a directional ski.
They can rally pretty hard, yet are increadibly forgiving and easy to ski - especially in soft snow. They do not feel as precise as some other similar offerings - like Wildcat108s - and are less ski than say first year ON3P Woodsman108s, but still do a lot of things really well.
I've only been on 182s. They ski kinda short, so do not be afraid of sizing up - especially if you want a higher top end. The front end on 182s is not terribly stiff, so if you like to drive skis through their shovels like there is no tomorrow then they might not be for you. If you drive medium hard or prefer a centered stance, then they are golden.
Their hybrid construction feels really different to most other similar skis I've been on and together with being relatively softer in the tips/tails they could give the impression that they are not wanting to go fast. That is not the case though - hell, the mayor of stomp town Reine Barkered used his pair of 192s, bone stock, at Verbier this year - so they can charge. The 182s are nimble and loose - terrific ski to progress with. It is probably one of the best skis to have been introduced over the last few seasons.
There is a lot of user feedback - read near bottomless stoke - on them over at TGR in the Dynastar thread, from this post and on.
The 192 is my new favorite daily driver. Next year it will probably just be that and a Rossignol sender squad in the locker room rack for me. It literally felt like Dynastar made the 192 for skiing a place like Crested Butte super surfy and can be skied centered, but when things get buck you can drive the shovels and keep um pointed where you want.
**This post was edited on Jun 9th 2021 at 10:09:44pm
Bigruss39Had abut 30-40 days on them this year, planning on getting another 40 on them next season. Cant say enough good things about them. Durable as hell too
Sick. Are you on the 182 or the 192?
How do you feel about the groomer performance? I mean I know that’s not where the ski shines, but are u able to have fun with them on piste?
Wait, I would have thought for sure Reine would have been on the 118s
kid-kapowm free 108s are awesome skis if you like smooth, playful and loose skis that still do well as a directional ski.
They can rally pretty hard, yet are increadibly forgiving and easy to ski - especially in soft snow. They do not feel as precise as some other similar offerings - like Wildcat108s - and are less ski than say first year ON3P Woodsman108s, but still do a lot of things really well.
I've only been on 182s. They ski kinda short, so do not be afraid of sizing up - especially if you want a higher top end. The front end on 182s is not terribly stiff, so if you like to drive skis through their shovels like there is no tomorrow then they might not be for you. If you drive medium hard or prefer a centered stance, then they are golden.
Their hybrid construction feels really different to most other similar skis I've been on and together with being relatively softer in the tips/tails they could give the impression that they are not wanting to go fast. That is not the case though - hell, the mayor of stomp town Reine Barkered used his pair of 192s, bone stock, at Verbier this year - so they can charge. The 182s are nimble and loose - terrific ski to progress with. It is probably one of the best skis to have been introduced over the last few seasons.
There is a lot of user feedback - read near bottomless stoke - on them over at TGR in the Dynastar thread, from this post and on.
How do you feel about the groomer performance? I mean I know that’s not where the ski shines, but are u able to have fun with them on piste?
Groomer performance is great. Granted, UT/Western US groomers are super grippy and forgiving. Ski feels strong and stable, i haven't noticed tip deflection or getting bounced around on firmer snow.
How do you feel about the groomer performance? I mean I know that’s not where the ski shines, but are u able to have fun with them on piste?
I ride 182 but I am 5'9. Skiing in Western Canada so I don't really use them on groomers, but they grip well on them when I decided to carve some turns.
