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ON3P Kartel 96 as my beater / park ski
Line Sakana for the average day (will be mounting pivots soon, just got them)
Line Vision 118 for touring and pow days
Yeah man sick quiver. I really hope line makes a longer sakana because I really want to try them
Rob.comON3P Kartel 96 as my beater / park ski
Line Sakana for the average day (will be mounting pivots soon, just got them)
Line Vision 118 for touring and pow days
Picked up a set of three skis over the summer and have already sold one and ridden the other two. The one I sold were some soul 7's lol, but held onto the 184 Volkl M5's and 184 Moment Blister Pros.
I love love loved the Blister pros. They were great in the pow of course, cut through chop like a hot knife through butter and carved big ol turns like nobody's business.
Now the Volkls.......
Wondering if any of you guys have experience with these skis. I just could not ski them well for the life of me. Every other ski I've owned up to this point have been full twin tip- 2012 Rossignol S3's 173's, 2019 Moment PB&J 188's, 2012 Bent chetlers, 184 Moment Wildcat 108's. So i'm not sure if I'm just so used to twins that a more directional ski doesn't make sense to me.
The Volkl's were fine on mellower slopes, but taking them on a steep groomed black run I could not get them to carve like at all. On the blue slopes I did fine, but it always seemed like they want to carve biiiiiig sweeping turns, and they almost feel like they lock you into that, and if you want to break them loose they need a considerable amount of effort. They also felt like they did a lot better on softer but choppier groomers than somewhat icy morning corduroy even though the edges were sharp. I did like they made any choppy snow feel like basically nothing. But I had no confidence in my ability to control them.
Was thinking I'd keep these as my crappy conditions icy groomer ski but seeing as I turn into a friggin jerry trying to ski them I'm thinking of either shelfing them for a while or selling. Can anybody attest to this? I know the M5's aren't newschooler skis but hey I thought they'd be fun for going super fast on groomers when there's nothing better to do.
betzPicked up a set of three skis over the summer and have already sold one and ridden the other two. The one I sold were some soul 7's lol, but held onto the 184 Volkl M5's and 184 Moment Blister Pros.
I love love loved the Blister pros. They were great in the pow of course, cut through chop like a hot knife through butter and carved big ol turns like nobody's business.
Now the Volkls.......
Wondering if any of you guys have experience with these skis. I just could not ski them well for the life of me. Every other ski I've owned up to this point have been full twin tip- 2012 Rossignol S3's 173's, 2019 Moment PB&J 188's, 2012 Bent chetlers, 184 Moment Wildcat 108's. So i'm not sure if I'm just so used to twins that a more directional ski doesn't make sense to me.
The Volkl's were fine on mellower slopes, but taking them on a steep groomed black run I could not get them to carve like at all. On the blue slopes I did fine, but it always seemed like they want to carve biiiiiig sweeping turns, and they almost feel like they lock you into that, and if you want to break them loose they need a considerable amount of effort. They also felt like they did a lot better on softer but choppier groomers than somewhat icy morning corduroy even though the edges were sharp. I did like they made any choppy snow feel like basically nothing. But I had no confidence in my ability to control them.
Was thinking I'd keep these as my crappy conditions icy groomer ski but seeing as I turn into a friggin jerry trying to ski them I'm thinking of either shelfing them for a while or selling. Can anybody attest to this? I know the M5's aren't newschooler skis but hey I thought they'd be fun for going super fast on groomers when there's nothing better to do.
The ski bases on the M5 are edge high and just need a few passes on a stone grinder to flatten and then reset the base and side edge bevels.
Very common I’m afraid as my last few skis have been edge high(2 Volkls in there) and my last set of Volkl Deacon 72 Masters were base high. An edge high ski will feel slower edge to edge, harder to pivot, heavier and feel “stuck in a turn” like you are describing. You’re not insane! Lol
My base high Deacons felt super unstable as if you were skiing on marbles but a quick stone grind and they were transformed. Ski awesome now!
Just inform the tech that the skis are edge high and they can measure at the shop and make them flat again.
Greg_KThe ski bases on the M5 are edge high and just need a few passes on a stone grinder to flatten and then reset the base and side edge bevels.
Very common I’m afraid as my last few skis have been edge high(2 Volkls in there) and my last set of Volkl Deacon 72 Masters were base high. An edge high ski will feel slower edge to edge, harder to pivot, heavier and feel “stuck in a turn” like you are describing. You’re not insane! Lol
My base high Deacons felt super unstable as if you were skiing on marbles but a quick stone grind and they were transformed. Ski awesome now!
Just inform the tech that the skis are edge high and they can measure at the shop and make them flat again.
I had a full tune on these done actually, and while I'm not sure 100% if they gave it a base grind it certainly looked like they did. also they were used skis and they had a core shot when I bought them that was patched up by the ski shop. But actually it came partially undone while I was skiing. Idk why, but they stuck a piece of metal where the core shot was, the thin layer of ptex above the metal came off while the metal and ptex below it stayed in place. Here is a couple pics:
Maybe this affected how they felt, but I'm not sure. It was only on one ski and I didn't notice a huge difference between the two tbh.
**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2022 at 4:09:38pm
betzI had a full tune on these done actually, and while I'm not sure 100% if they gave it a base grind it certainly looked like they did. also they were used skis and they had a core shot when I bought them that was patched up by the ski shop. But actually it came partially undone while I was skiing. Idk why, but they stuck a piece of metal where the core shot was, the thin layer of ptex above the metal came off while the metal and ptex below it stayed in place. Here is a couple pics:
Maybe this affected how they felt, but I'm not sure. It was only on one ski and I didn't notice a huge difference between the two tbh.
**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2022 at 4:09:38pm
Looks like there is decent structure on the base but they still could be edge high. If you have a straight metal edge like a ruler or scraper, you can put it across the base with some light behind it to check if any light is coming through under the middle base.
think I’d be getting them to re-do the repair as well!
Greg_KLooks like there is decent structure on the base but they still could be edge high. If you have a straight metal edge like a ruler or scraper, you can put it across the base with some light behind it to check if any light is coming through under the middle base.
think I’d be getting them to re-do the repair as well!
They will already be re-doing the repair so I will ask them about the edges. Tried with my carpenter's square and metal scraper, there might be a tiny bit of light shining through when I put a flashlight on the other side but it's really miniscule. It's not any more light under the volkl's than my moments for instance.
I'm still thinking it's just the skis, they are stiff af and 184cm with a lot more camber and less rocker than anything else I have. They might have been "locking in" more if I was backseating a little, but I can't recall. I did try putting my weight in different places, really focused on keeping my hands and weight more forward at times, and like I said they skied ok but they brought me back like 3 years in ability level lol especially on the steeper slopes.
Get them to run them over the stone after they do the re-do the repair and then check that the base edge bevel is uniform.
Another issue could be when the edge bevel dips lower than 1 degree especially near the tip and tail.
Haven’t posted my new poachers yet, they are the bees knees
Much more damp and soft than my old Magnuses, super versatile ski. They turn awesome for a park ski with rail detune
Would recommend
and that storm cloud graphic is too fye
clindblomskier
Haven’t posted my new poachers yet, they are the bees knees
Much more damp and soft than my old Magnuses, super versatile ski. They turn awesome for a park ski with rail detune
Would recommend
and that storm cloud graphic is too fye
Love them. Mounted +2.5 forwards of rec. Feel really stable, but still quite maneuverable. Nice damp and damp, definitely crud weapons, but not too big to feel ungainly on side hits and such. The shorter lengths are softer and would be more playful.
hunternay_10What do you think about your cast? They worth the hype?
CAST are great. If you spend a lot of time skiing inbounds and want to be 100% confident in your bindings it’s the obvious choice. Slower transitions, more fiddling with swapping toe pieces, not perfect brake retainers, more difficult mounts are the downsides.
I’ve never had any issues myself other than brakes flicking down when breaking trail in kind of heavy snow and having to chip some ice off my toe baseplate in the spring a couple times. I’d never put CAST on a dedicated touring rig, but if you break stuff like I do and never want to think about your bindings on the down, they’re worth the cons.
Im really happy where my quiver is atm. It probably wont change except for mayb a replacement of my blackops 118s which have 4-5 seasons on them now. I have my park skis, reckoner 102s with shifts on them, the og blackops with pivots, bc 120s with kingpins and I just ordered a pair of j skis hotshots that Im gonna mount with pivots. I feel like I have all the bases covered and a near perfect quiver for my skiing style and the terrain I ski in the pnw.
gorbdawggybrentwhat skis are you planning to buy/expecting to have for your quiver next season?
i’m planning on
ON3P Mag 102
ON3P Jeffery 108
Vishnu Wet
Line Sakana
Been rocking Custom Pink Kartel 98’s for a solid 4 years.
Just ordered my second pair of skis and spoiled myself and scooped another pair of customs. This time Jeffrey 110’s with soft flex and grizzly corn base. Pretty damn stoked to rip these next season.
ColingarnesBeen rocking Custom Pink Kartel 98’s for a solid 4 years.
Just ordered my second pair of skis and spoiled myself and scooped another pair of customs. This time Jeffrey 110’s with soft flex and grizzly corn base. Pretty damn stoked to rip these next season.
